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Saber Alter vs Naruto Uzumaki (Kurama Mode)

What are her reactions speed?
Pretty sure this naruto has superior reaction speed + fighting against people with analytical prediction + emotion/intent sensing her first move + Shunshin speed burst/amp to evade + Naruto has also avoided a near point blank attack with shunshin this is before he gets this stronger form + the beam is a narrow stroke downward hes not getting insta one tapped.
 
Loyd said:
Mind you this naruto is also fighting with people who have pretty crazy reaction/analytical prediction,
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Artoria's Instinct is more like Precog as it tells her of more favorable outcomes for her actions
 
Rez said:
more favorable outcomes
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Oh im aware and i agree with this interpretation aswell
before vsbw too many times has somebody misconstrued/nlf the hel out of a fate character with lol instinct perfect choice and stonewalled shutdown a lengthy yt/reddit debate convi with that reason alone sorry for rant
 
To note something the Instinct of Salter is Rank B as Mordred who dodged a surprise attack from someone who see the future and make him retreat, so I don't know how much useful would be the analytical prediction of Naruto against her.
 
Voting Naruto.

Sage Mode’s sensory abilities are no joke, and they seem to be taken very lightly here. Considering a Base Naruto could sense everything that was happening across the entire planet during the war, and sense the intent of Zetsu’s so disguised even their chakra was indistinguishable from the real person, there’s absolutely nothing Salter is going to be able to catch him off guard with. Coupled with the fact that Naruto regularly fights against characters with Precog, and can actually negate their Precog with Frog Kata, that’s a done deal there.

Naruto massively outrages, too, with his extended limbs, and the sheer size of his Jutsu, dodging is going to be difficult for her, especially considering Naruto can just make over dozens upon dozens of clones that are all comparable to him in stats. Considering Kage Bushin is his bread and butter, plus Rasengan, it’s only a matter of time before she gets overwhelmed, constantly bombarded by nature energy that cannot be sensed by people who can see the supernatural, Naruto takes this.
 
From what I finded the AP of the Biju Bbombs of Naruto is 26.11 GT, right? And the AP of Kurama Biju Bomb is 1.2 TT, correrct?

The AP of base Salter upscale from 26.6 GT and her NP is 2.9 TT.
 
Expectro2000xxx said:
From what I finded the AP of the Biju Bbombs of Naruto is 26.11 GT, right? And the AP of Kurama Biju Bomb is 1.2 TT, correrct?

The AP of base Salter upscale from 26.6 GT and her NP is 2.9 TT.
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Keep in mind, this was the first time Naruto had ever synced with Kurama, and the latter even noted it was incomplete. He did that with 5 minutes of experience.
 
Expectro2000xxx said:
From what I finded the AP of the Biju Bbombs of Naruto is 26.11 GT, right? And the AP of Kurama Biju Bomb is 1.2 TT, correrct
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No, not exactly. The 26 GT figure is actually for KCM2 Naruto's physicals, regular attacks, and mini Bijū bombs.
The Kurama Avatar and its regular Bijū bombs are sitting at High 6-C (130 GT), with his charged Bijū bomb sitting at 1.2 TT.
 
UchihaSlayer96 said:
No, not exactly. The 26 GT figure is actually for KCM2 Naruto's physicals, regular attacks, and mini Bijū bombs.
The Kurama Avatar and its regular Bijū bombs are sitting at High 6-C (130 GT), with his charged Bijū bomb sitting at 1.2 TT.
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Ok, if that's the case then if Naruto use Biju Bombs or a charged one then there is no way in which Salter isn't gonna use her NP with her instincts, so voting Salter because in the moment Naruto is gonna do a big attack she will do her own big attack.
 
Expectro2000xxx said:
Ok, if that's the case then if Naruto use Biju Bombs or a charged one then there is no way in which Salter isn't gonna use her NP with her instincts, so voting Salter because in the moment Naruto is gonna do a big attack she will do her own big attack.
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And what constitutes she’d even have a chance to do that with dozens of clones + Frog Kata?
 
Milly_Rocking_Bandit said:
And what constitutes she’d even have a chance to do that with dozens of clones + Frog Kata?
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That if she to many clones she will become annoyed and use her NP, and if Frog Kata resist Precognition then that would be listed in the resistance part, and if his bigs attacks can't be seen or sensed even with the Rinnegan then no one would have reacted in any of the fights of Naruto after obtain it.
 
Popted2 said:
Milly this is Kurama mode Naruto not Kurama sage mode Naruto
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He can still use dozens of clones though?


Expectro2000xxx said:
That if she to many clones she will become annoyed and use her NP, and if Frog Kata resist Precognition then that would be listed in the resistance part, and if his bigs attacks can't be seen or sensed even with the Rinnegan then no one would have reacted in any of the fights of Naruto after obtain it.
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Uh... no, just Frog Kata cannot be sensed, he still regularly keeps up with precognition.
 
Expectro2000xxx said:
Yes, and she still can spam her NP against that.
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Naruto can also spam many High 6-C Bijū bombs in quick succession or a bunch of dura negging Rasenshuriken with those clones, or without them in the case of the Bijū Bombs. Only the charged Bijū bomb can't be spammed.
 
UchihaSlayer96 said:
Naruto can also spam many High 6-C Bijū bombs in quick succession or a bunch of dura negging Rasenshuriken with those clones, or without them in the case of the Bijū Bombs. Only the charged Bijū bomb can't be spammed.
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Yeah, but they would be swallowed by the wave of Excalibur Morgan with the difference of AP, even the charged Biju Bomb, if he could spam it then he can oppose her NP but since that's not the case then Excalibur overwhelm it.
Milly_Rocking_Bandit said:
How does she have time to?
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Speed equalized and just one second to charge Excalibur.
 
Sage sensing really isn't as good as some of the senses of people Artoria has fought and hit before, so I'm not sure it'd even help much

Salter has an unlimited supply of mana, so she can, and will, spam her NP until the opponent dies. Each blast of Morgan is more than capable of catching all of his clones and/or attacks at once unless they scatter absurdly far apart, and even her mana bursts cover a large range if she needed to use them instead.

A single rasenshuriken might not even put her down, it does do damage on a cellular level, yes, but it's not going to just cut straight through her and instantly destroy her heart and brain, which is what would be needed for an instant kill, because they're the only organs connected to the spirit core. It'd do a lot of damage sure, but landing a single one alone isn't going to instantly kill.

Salter would quite possibly instantly use Morgan, so if she did, Naruto would have to avoid the large wave straight from the start, clone himself, and then start spamming before she just shot another one or a mana burst
 
Paul_Frank said:
Sage sensing really isn't as good as some of the senses of people Artoria has fought and hit before, so I'm not sure it'd even help much
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you underestimate naruto's sense of sage mode too much naruto's sage mode senses are sharper than salter's senses even naruto's sage mode knows the ins and outs of raikage 3's attack
 
Expectro2000xxx said:
Excalibur Morgan with the difference of AP, even the charged Biju Bomb, if he could spam it then he can oppose her NP but since that's not the case then Excalibur overwhelm it.
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for this naruto is easy to counter if the excalibur salter NP is the same as 6C with naruto's bijuudamq then 1 naruto clone can make the original rasenshuriken naruto will spam bijuudama then it becomes a combo attack between rasenshuriken and bijuudama
 
not much different from naruto, naruto's kurama mode can feel evil and naruto's sage mode can feel a strong killing intent like naruto's sage mode knows the ins and outs of raikage 3's attack
 
Ren1999 said:
for this naruto is easy to counter if the excalibur salter NP is the same as 6C with naruto's bijuudamq then 1 naruto clone can make the original rasenshuriken naruto will spam bijuudama then it becomes a combo attack between rasenshuriken and bijuudama
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I honestly didn't understand the comment, but to note the NP of Salter is 2.9 TT.
 
Ren1999 said:
for this naruto is easy to counter if the excalibur salter NP is the same as 6C with naruto's bijuudamq then 1 naruto clone can make the original rasenshuriken naruto will spam bijuudama then it becomes a combo attack between rasenshuriken and bijuudama
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Did you look at the AP of Excalibur Morgan? Its above 2.9 TT of Seigfried
 
Ren1999 said:
for this naruto is easy to counter if the excalibur salter NP is the same as 6C with naruto's bijuudamq then 1 naruto clone can make the original rasenshuriken naruto will spam bijuudama then it becomes a combo attack between rasenshuriken and bijuudama
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NP of salter is 2.9 TT and even higher

Wdym?
 
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John985 said:
Did you look at the AP of Excalibur Morgan? Its above 2.9 TT of Seigfried
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what i know is that naruto's kurama mode can block Juubi Dama's attack from Juubi 1st Form but I don't know how strong the attack is TT because there is no calc yet
 
TrueKingOfHeroes said:
salter's senses are able to sense people's souls, thus he is able to know the real naruto, and boom salter one shots with better AP
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I already said that Naruto's senses are not much different from Salter's, even the high speed attack of the 3rd Raikage, he knows let alone the intention to kill Salter.
 
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