S-Class Number 3 vs Hulk

[Tural2004]

Note: This originally was Garou vs Hulk.

Post Sakaar Hulk and Awakening Breath Bang are used.

Speed equalized.

Hulk is bloodlusted. Bang is in character but willing to kill.

They are in the center of New York and start 5 meters apart.

Bang teachs him a lesson: DaReaperMan, TheRustyOne, Tural2004, GlaceonGamez471, CheatHydra, Popted2, Nullflowerblush, FinePoint, King

Hulk makes mincemeat out of him:

Inconclusive:

 

[DaReaperMan]

Garou skill ***** to hell and back GG

 

[TheRustyOne]

Garou should takes this with low difficulty, Hulk starts out stronger but the difference between the two isn't that high. I don't know Hulks value but High 7-A+ means at least 2.65 GT, while Garou scales above 2.4 GT. And the upper limit of High 7-A is 4.29 GT, which means whatever difference exist isn't going to be major.

Both of their strength will increase (Though they can't go beyond their tier), Hulk's will raise with rage but Garou's is reactive and increases during battle in general. However a big difference is that Garou gets faster as well, while Hulk's speed doesn't increase with his rage. So while both will be getting stronger, only Garou would be getting faster.

And he's far superior to the Hulk in terms of combat skill. He should be capable of easily handling him with his martial arts, and he even possess superior Lifting Strength.

Garou wins this via vastly superior skill, reactive power which makes him faster, and higher lifting strength.

 

[Tural2004]

Garou FRA

 

[GlaceonGamez471]

Garou FRA

 

[CheatHydra]

Gary FRA

 

[Popted2]

Garou FRA

 

[Nullflowerblush]

Thanos vs. Bruce, pt. 2 FRA

 

[Tural2004]

Grace

 

[Tural2004]

This just became a stomp in Garou's favor. He currently scales to Island Level+. I guess I will change Hulk's key after upgrades are accepted

 

[Tural2004]

Now I use Bang instead of Garou. But Bang has similar stats to the version of Garou that was used here. Does anyone want to change their vote?

 

[DaReaperMan]

Uhhhh no. Bang still ***** Hulk over via skill.

 

[FinePoint]

Yeah, Hulk is going to struggle landing even a single solid hit on Bang.

 

[DaReaperMan]

The issue with Hulk is that you need to throw him against someone who's also very Unga Bunga lol

 

[King]

Why use Silverfang of all people? The whole concept of WSRSF is a counter to Hulk-like opponents.
Stomp matchup.

 

[Tural2004]

I don't think it is a stomp. Enraged Hulk should have several times AP advantage. He is bloodlusted while Bang isn't. He can take Bang by surprise. Besides that, don't forget that they are in a populated area. Hulk wouldn't care about causalities while this may hold Bang back.

Also, Bang should have less stamina. He mentions his back problems several times and Awakening Breath most likely takes a toll on his body. If we add Hulk's regeneration to this then he would win in a battle of attrition.

 

[DaReaperMan]

I don't think it is a stomp. Enraged Hulk should have several times AP advantage. He is bloodlusted while Bang isn't. He can take Bang by surprise. Besides that, don't forget that they are in a populated area. Hulk wouldn't care about causalities while this may hold Bang back.

Also, Bang should have less stamina. He mentions his back problems several times and Awakening Breath most likely takes a toll on his body. If we add Hulk's regeneration to this then he would win in a battle of attrition.

You do realize the apsolute most of an AP advantage Hulk will have is around 2x. If that. And I think seeing the god damn Hulk and a geezer fighting will get people to run.

Oh no! Back problems which have never ever actually been a problem for Bang in combat. And did we even mention that big monsters like the Hulk are what Bang has dealt with many, many, many times before? He's nothing new and Bang skill stomps.

 

[Tural2004]

You do realize the apsolute most of an AP advantage Hulk will have is around 2x.

Yes, you're right. I just checked the value he scales to. It seems I was misremembering it.

And I think seeing the god damn Hulk and a geezer fighting will get people to run.

I am pretty sure by MHS standards normal humans practically don't move. And evacuating a city would take a lot of time.

Oh no! Back problems which have never ever actually been a problem for Bang in combat

Did Bang ever participate in a long fight? I am pretty most of his fights ended before anything bad could happen. In a long battle, it would surely be troublesome. When they escape from Elder Centipede Bomb mentions that he can't carry people for too long because of his age. The same most likely apply to Bang as well. During the fight against Rover, it is more clear. Once they got rid of the pain they had a clear boost in battle power.

And did we even mention that big monsters like the Hulk are what Bang has dealt with many, many, many times before

For example? If you want to mention the likes of Fuhrer Ugly then don't forget that he has like 30× AP disadvantage. He has faced comparable beings around four times and he lost each one. But two of them probably don't count

 

[TheRustyOne]

SBA assumes no population in an area. If you want a populate area, you need to write that down in the OP.

"Outside Influence: None. No characters of either verse, aside from those participating in the battle, may influence the outcome of the battle in any way. That means they may not join the fight, grant buffs, create shields, provide information etc. Exceptions are things like blessings, calling upon some higher entities power for a spell, summoning familiars to battle for them, having another character as equipment or more generally spoken the things which are listed on the profile as part of a characters own powers and abilities."

 

[Tural2004]

But I don't use SBA in this match. I guess I should have made it more clear. Also, if we go by second and third sentences it seems not to include civilians

 

[DaReaperMan]

Yes, you're right. I just checked the value he scales to. It seems I was misremembering it.

I am pretty sure by MHS standards normal humans practically don't move. And evacuating a city would take a lot of time.

Did Bang ever participate in a long fight? I am pretty most of his fights ended before anything bad could happen. In a long battle, it would surely be troublesome. When they escape from Elder Centipede Bomb mentions that he can't carry people for too long because of his age. The same most likely apply to Bang as well. During the fight against Rover, it is more clear. Once they got rid of the pain they had a clear boost in battle power.

For example? If you want to mention the likes of Fuhrer Ugly then don't forget that he has like 30× AP disadvantage. He has faced comparable beings around 4 four times and he lost each one. (Bomb, Elder Centipede, Rover, Garou)

Hulk is Subsonic+ in movement speed, Bang can pretty easily wallop Hulk before he even has a chance to threaten people. Also SBA says no.

Except Bang isn't carrying anyone at all(plus he has Class G LS, that'd literally be basically nothing) and he has the lovely stamina feat of running a long distance, something that can pretty easily take its tole on the back.

Let's look at everything here shall we? Bomb and Bang fought literally 50-60 years ago, a LOT can change in that time. Elder Centipede happens to be really big and straight up impossible to use martial arts on, so Bang had to AP him. Rover stomped Bang, Bomb, and Fubuki while weakened, they are not "comparable". Garou has most of the shit Bang has and is basically his equal in most regards.

As for examples, why not look at the fact Bang just so happens to be a hero and has been fighting monsters for God knows how long.

 

[DaReaperMan]

But I don't use SBA in this match. I guess I should have made it more clear. Also, if we go by second and third sentences it seems not to include civilians

SBA is always assumed unless specific things are stated otherwise.

 

[Tural2004]

is Subsonic+ in movement speed, Bang can pretty easily wallop Hulk before he even has a chance to threaten people

What the... I must have hit my head somewhere. I remember him being MHS.

Anyway, since we both agree that Bang wins arguing anymore seems kinda redundant to me. You won.

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