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RWBY Discussion thread 2

Jaunes aura is the ability to enhance and replenish others aura with his own. That strengthens the aura for the other person greatly, making them stronger, more durable, higher healing factor etc. How else would Weiss have recovered from that not minor wound.
 
@jinx666 well, Hazel also stabbed himself with dust. It's entirely possible he doesn't use aura because of his semblance ignoring pain so he doesn't need to use it defensively. We don't know yet.
 
Not reading the comments but I can guess it's probably chaos.

(Please note any upgrades I ask for is just me thinking to you guys not something I want now, if your disagreeing then that fine it's okay)

But I can tell from this chapter that Maiden powers ARE indeed something you turn off and on so Raven should have two keys for Maiden powers and Base.

Amber and Cinder as well of course.

Oscar is now even more likely to be 7-B since Hazel can't feel pain yet Ozpin was still able to stun him so that means he did do some damage to him.

Weiss's Summons are likely 7-B since she impaled Hazel, though Jaune did amp her as she said (I'm more then better) so maybe it's only with Jaune's amp?

Blake knocked Adam down but I want to see their fight next chapter to see how well she does against him before I truly decided on something.
 
Okay, I agree with everything but the Oscar thing. He can't feel pain. The stuns are bs, Hazel shouldn't have even flinched, its his semblance.

No confirmation that Oscar was actually hurting Hazel, and therefore he shouldn't be 7-B, let alone strengthen the false belief. And I've debunked that Lionheart shit, who still has to fight ith a ranged weapon that has 7-B projectiles.

Hazel stabbed himself with dust in his skin, with his own power. Oh god, thats even More evidence aura is a durabuff forcefield.he didn't tear right through himself.
 
Well I'm just going to post my thoughts here (keep in mind I've only seen ch 12 since I wait for the chapters to reach Youtube first)

More proof that aura is like a light switch you have to manually turn on and off. Sienna was surprised and killed. Vernal was surprised and hurt. Sun was surprised and hurt by Ilia. Oscar hurt by Ruby's punch when training, Ozpin said Oscar forgot to activate his aura.

They were all surprised and didn't activate their auras therefore they were allowed to be harmed.

Ok time for an unpopular opinion: everyone is the same tier in exception to maidens (when using maiden powers). I mean what's the reason for tier difference between Ruby and Qrow? Is there a calc that describes tier differences? I've always seen it as a massive skill difference and nothing else.

That would explain why Oscar is able to be harmed by Ruby, yet still harm Leo and be able to fight Hazel.

I will admit that Tyrian tanking Nora charged on electricity without flinching puts a damper on my argument. It could just be his tail.....which happens to be susceptible to being cut off by Ruby (which works in favor of my argument of everyone being the same tier).

Anyway I'll just leave my thoughts here, I doubt it'll go anywhere.
 
How does feeling no pain equal not being able to be pushed back? That clearly means Oscar is strong enough to effect him. And there is no actual proof that hazel does or doesn't use aura defensively. We haven't seen any effect on him from it, and objects can penetrate him. It's entirely possible that because of his semblance, he doesn't use his aura defensively. Like I said we don't know yet.
 
Ren stated that when you have had your aura for a long time and have 'mastered' it, it becomes second nature, and it's always active without strain. Only weaker people still trying to learnt their aura (V1 Jaune, Oscar) have to manually activate it. So yeah
 
Jinx666 said:
Pretty sure its second nature as in its always active.
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It takes considerable training apparently for it to be second nature; but that doesn't mean it's always active for all fighters.
 
It's second nature for boxers to instinctively block or dodge a punch, however when they aren't expecting one they don't. Even when they are expecting it they might not. It's the same with aura, they use it when they mean to use it, not automatically
 
Damage3245 said:
Jinx666 said:
Pretty sure its second nature as in its always active.
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It takes considerable training apparently for it to be second nature; but that doesn't mean it's always active for all fighters.
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Of course not all fighters (Oscar)

But it's safe to say the rest of the RWBY cast have by now.

Aura isn't ultra instinct m8, aura gives a sixth sense aswell, so its hard to catch them off guard. By second nature, they mean that it no longer becomes a struggle to control the aura, that they can have it on at all times. Unless you can give me an example of someone getting killed by caught off guard without Aura that isn't Sienna Kahn (No confirmation she was a huntress let alone could harness aura)

Plus, Hazel wouldn't deactivate his aura in the middle of a fight. That's stupid
 
"Unless you can give me an example of someone getting killed by caught off guard without Aura that isn't Sienna Kahn (No confirmation she was a huntress let alone could harness aura)"

I did....Vernal, Sun, and Oscar were all harmed as such.
 
Okay so Amped Nora is 7-B, Weiss likely doesnt scale from impaling Hazel due to being amped by Jaune's semblance, and Adam got hit with the PIS punch
 
Wouldn't amped Nora only be 7-b because she was amped by 7-b electricity. So really her amped AP is just the AP of the electricity she takes, up to 7-b cause of NLF.
 
Nico-v11 said:
"Unless you can give me an example of someone getting killed by caught off guard without Aura that isn't Sienna Kahn (No confirmation she was a huntress let alone could harness aura)"
I did....Vernal, Sun, and Oscar were all harmed as such.
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That was A) from the Grimm arm, B) Sun got electrocuted which could penetrate Aura easily. And 3) Oscar didn't have his aura active if your were talking about the hit
 
WeeklyBattles said:
Okay so Amped Nora is 7-B, Weiss likely doesnt scale from impaling Hazel due to being amped by Jaune's semblance, and Adam got hit with the PIS punch
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Weiss' aura was amped and replenished by Jaune, nothing says her Semblance was, especially not that of a separate entity

Nothing about the maidens power on/off though? Or the fact Oscar wasn't actually hurting Hazel either?

And ofc its PIS when Blake hurts Adam, but not when Oscar survives Hazel
 
Blake didn't one shot Adam she knocked him down for a second, he gets right back up and is fine. (They might have a proper fight next chapter)

Cinder decided to threaten Adam till after she got the Maiden's power, if she never needed the amp why not threaten him when they first met?

Also it's been over 8 months since volume 3 so I think the girls possibly being on Adam's level is possible.

What we are sure of with this chapter. (Ignoring everything else)

Jaune can amp a 8-A high enough that they can impale a 7-B.

Nora can absorb 7-B levels of lightning.

Maiden powers need to be activated.

Raven's swords are made of dust and she can change them on the fly.

Cinder's Grimm arm isn't protect by her aura since it lacks a soul.

Nothing disproved 7-B Oscar since the only thing that could at this point is him losing to Mercury or Emerald since they are the only 8-A with the villians.

Let's be honest the girls are going to have another training session.
 
Jinx666 said:
Weiss' aura was amped and replenished by Jaune, nothing says her Semblance was, especially not that of a separate entity
Nothing about the maidens power on/off though? Or the fact Oscar wasn't actually hurting Hazel either?

And ofc its PIS when Blake hurts Adam, but not when Oscar survives Hazel
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It was explicitly stated he was amplifying her power

Hazel literally doesnt feel pain, but Ozcar was still damaging him

Oscar has 7-B durability, of couse its not PIS
 
WeeklyBattles said:
Jinx666 said:
Weiss' aura was amped and replenished by Jaune, nothing says her Semblance was, especially not that of a separate entity
Nothing about the maidens power on/off though? Or the fact Oscar wasn't actually hurting Hazel either?

And ofc its PIS when Blake hurts Adam, but not when Oscar survives Hazel
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It was explicitly stated he was amplifying her power
Hazel literally doesnt feel pain, but Ozcar was still damaging him

Oscar has 7-B durability, of couse its not PIS
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He was amplifying her aura. And therefore her physical power, not her semblance, which isn't reliant on aura. Especially not that of summons, which have shown ridiculous AP anyway.

Nothing suggests he was damaging him though, a few hits of the cane. He shouldn't have been stunned if his semblance isn't to feel pain, theroefore that's an outlier. We can't say it damaged him if we don't it actually know it hurt.

Yeah..sure, for having his aura severely damaged (or depleted either way it hurt) by a 8-A, stretching to 7-B probably blast, that was merely a warning shot,and then suddenly taking a few punches despite still being weakest there and unable to fight afterwards, even though Hazel was still up and ready to go.

What about the Maiden on and off thing you 100% agree on. I deserve to be a little smug cmon
 
Semblances draw their power from their user's aura, thats how they work. So yes, he was amping her semblance's power.

Because he literally cannot feel pain, so of course he's not going to show that it hurts. That doesnt change the fact that Ozcar bodied him in a fight

For the last time, he didnt have his aura depleted.

Youre not being smug, youre being a stubborn asshole
 
WeeklyBattles said:
Semblances fraw their power from their user's aura, thats how they work. So yes, he was amping her semblance's power.
Because he literally cannot feel pain, so of course he's not going to show that it hurts. That doesnt change the fact that Ozcar bodied him in a fight

For the last time, he didnt have his aura depleted.

Youre not being smug, youre being a stubborn asshole
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No they don't, otherwise they wouldn't be able to use their semblances when their aura is depleted (Pyrrha polarity in Cinders fight). I remember you saying and admitting this before...weird huh?

Yeah, but that means it didnt hurt him, or damage him (no visible pain either), and therefore we can't tell if Oscar hurt him and his 7-B durability as there's no proof. The damage shouldn't be legit if Hazel can't feel the pain. Ozpin Oscar* finessed him with mere skill and reactions,before then getting taken down by him while Hazel was still able to go, even after Nora smashed him. We see him visibly out of breath and having to kneel. He hasn't 'bodied' anyone, he's still weakened.

Yeah, you said, and although I disagree seeing as sound of aura depleting is inconsistent (Even though it's the same as Tyrian Vs Qrow), and the flash indicates the aura depletion more consistently, nevertheless it was an extremely powerful blow to Oscars aura otherwise it wouldn't have flashed at all, meanwhile all 7-Bs can take eachother hits without that. Seriously?

I'm being smug, which is a key factor in being an asshole but eh. I deserved it, especially when you're avoiding to admit your wrong and instead point the irrelevant thing out.
 
Jinx666 said:
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And then it was pointed out that i was wrong, turns out i WAS wrong, and i admitted i was wrong. Weird huh?

His attacks still visibly affected him, even though he cant feel pain Ozcar's attacks still affected him.

You are literally the only person on this entire thread still trying to use the argument that his aura was depleted even though everyone else has already disproved it

How am i avoiding admitting im wrong?
 
They didn't visibly affect him, only knocked him down (which Blake did to Adam,but that's the outlier hypocritically compared to the weakest character rn suddenly surpassing eveyrone) and stunned him, which is an outlier seeing as stuns only occur through pain, which he can't feel.

And even so, Oscar couldn't take anymore of him, meanwhile Hazel was still eating to go. The guy got stabbed by a lancer and is currently still going strong. Oscar did shit to him, and he shouldn't scale for things that are outliers to others, and mere cane slaps that aren't felt.
 
.... knocking him down is visibly affecting him. If someone pushed you, it doesn't hurt till you hit the ground, but they were strong enough to move you. Oscar was strong enough to knock back Hazel. No-one is saying Oscar can beat Hazel, but he can at least visibly affect him. And why is it so hard to admit that the former weakest character is stronger than rwby when it is specifically stated that he will be growing at an exponential rate. Like, they've literally addressed that he will get very strong very quickly in the show.
 
WeeklyBattles said:
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>Gives that as an argument so you aren't contradicted

>Does not actually counter the statement. I've legit just shown you an example they can still use semblances without their aura, or are you gonna be proved wrong again?

They barely affected him, Oscar was no match for him in the end, and this guy shouldn't be stunned if his semblance ignores pain.

You all think you've disproven it, even though you all deny people's aura flashes when their aura is depleted., you know, even though the point I'm saying is his Aura took a heavy blow that it barely withstood instead of actually depleting...so I doubt it should be scaled if it barely clung on. You admins have eachother backs unless it goes against your personal thoughts, so being outnumbered doesn't concern me. Seriously, just answer the response and stop adding irrelevant things

Sigh. Just admit you were wrong about the maiden turning on and off thing, instead of asking obvious questions please.
 
I'm still inclined to agree with Weekly.

As Morlock stated, Oscar's blows were strong enough to knock back Hazel and even trip him up. It's senseless to say that he's several tiers below Hazel when he can at least do this much.

Of course Hazel didn't feel it, his Semblance is dulling pai, it's blatantly stated in the episode.
 
Reppuzan said:
I'm still inclined to agree with Weekly.
As Morlock stated, Oscar's blows were strong enough to knock back Hazel and even trip him up. It's senseless to say that he's several tiers below Hazel when he can at least do this much.

Of course Hazel didn't feel it, his Semblance is dulling pai, it's blatantly stated in the episode.
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Ofc you are

Blake was strong enough to knock down Adam, but that's an outlier? Weird. And Ren is tiers below Hazel, and yet Hazel was still forced to guard and shit against him. Again, he was only stunned, but you shouldn't get stunned if you can't feel pain.

Yeah, that's the point. We can't tell it hurt him, nor did hazel even show signs of being hurt other than his blind spots hit and PIS since you shouldn't flinch if you can't feel pain. He had enough aura to survive getting stabbed while Oscar is down
 
Feeling pain doesn't ignore physics that makes no sense. He was hit with a force that was strong enough to knock him back. It doesn't matter if he feels pain or not, this is so cut and dried. To be knocked back, that means he was hit with a force strong enough to affect him.
 
Are you serious....Weekly, respond to your own argument. How much can you avoid the question cause you can't argue.

I know it doesn't ignore physics, but Ozpin hit a blindspot most likely, that via physics, makes it easier to knock someone down with minimal force. Some guy could trip someone bigger and it wouldn't scale would it? And again, apparently Adam getting knocked over is PIS, but Hazel isn't? Again, something Weekly is avoiding to explain
 
Oscar literally from the front hit hazel like 20 times, staggering him slightly, then hit him one last time very hard and knocked him back like 10 feet. How is this an argument.
 
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