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RWBY - Aura's 'Transmutation' Resistance

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Jinx666 said:
Anyway the standings so far:

Agree:
Jinx666 (OP)
Kingofwolves999
Damage3245
Keeweed (based on liking, plz post a comment abt your stance to make it certain though)

Disagree:
WeeklyBattles

Unknown:
SilentLyfe
Spinoirr
XSOULOFCINDERX (Seems to be liking on the 'For removing' posts but unsure)
Cire
Lynieryz
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Spin disagrees, I can already tell you that.

However the basis of this CRT should already be over. She never did what was claimed in the original ability addition thread. The ability in fact worked right through his Aura on his clothes. Resistance should go bye bye.

Very simple
 
Hell by your argument the cast would just have NPI regardless of whether they have aura or not, if aura is irrelevant in their ability to hit an intangible opponent then they would be able to do so without aura
 
okay okay no more resistance to transumation,

however they do have the NPI, and it wasn't only for the Geist, but for a Grimm that is stated to be intangible, called Chill and they can interact with him

about Aura resisting any hax touch based seems NLF
 
Looking this over, yeah I kinda have to admit that the Transmutation Resistance doesn't really hold up. Which means I have to once again update all the profiles.

However, I disagree with removing NPI as the guidebook literally calls them intangible Grimm.
 
WeeklyBattles said:
Cool, so it should be easy for you to disprove me by showing them interacting with a Geist without aura right? Or failing to interact with one while their aura is up? Or a scan of Geists not being intangible? All you would need is a single scan to prove me wrong, so rather than making all of these assumptions of 'oh theres no direct statement that they can hit geists due to aura' or 'oh geists might not always be intangible' how about you actually practice what you preach and provide evidence like youve been demanding everyone else do in this thread?
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Literal Strawman Fallacy. The geist has only appeared twice, and is a gag on RWBY chibi. No one in RWBY without an aura interacts with it. I very much doubt you'd stop making stuff up after that.

You're saying that Aura is the reason RWBY characters can hurt the Geist. The Geist has been physically punched, and oneshot by a bullet (which would prove that no, it isnt intangible all the time.), but you're failing to provide evidence that Aura is the reason the geist can be touched.
 
Jinx666 said:
Literal Strawman Fallacy. The geist has only appeared twice, and is a gag on RWBY chibi. No one in RWBY without an aura interacts with it. I very much doubt you'd stop making stuff up after that.

You're saying that Aura is the reason RWBY characters can hurt the Geist. The Geist has been physically punched, and oneshot by a bullet (which would prove that no, it isnt intangible all the time.), but you're failing to provide evidence that Aura is the reason the geist can be touched.
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Not even gonna entertain this argument anymore. Post scans.
 
Alright so the Transmutation resistances can unanimously go?

Thats fine then, Though id love to make a NPI one too. Theres literally nothing saying Aura is the only reason people can hit these things
 
Jinx666 said:
Thats fine then, Though id love to make a NPI one too. Theres literally nothing saying Aura is the only reason people can hit these things
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Neat. Post scans proving they cant. Ive already posted scans proving they can. Now its your turn.
 
WeeklyBattles said:
Not even gonna entertain this argument anymore. Post scans.
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There are no scans of a Geist being hit by someone with no aura, unless you want me to bring up RWBY Chibi

What needs to be proven is that its Aura that lets people hit a Geist? The very power you're claiming has NPI? Cause yeah, the Geist HAS been physically hit, and shot killed, but you're saying that its only because of Aura which 0 evidence for

Strawman Fallacy, you're trying to twist the argument
 
Jinx666 said:
There are no scans of a Geist being hit by someone with no aura, unless you want me to bring up RWBY Chibi
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Aura isnt even a thing in RWBY Chibi
Jinx666 said:
What needs to be proven is that its Aura that lets people hit a Geist? The very power you're claiming has NPI? Cause yeah, the Geist HAS been physically hit, and shot killed, but you're saying that its only because of Aura which 0 evidence for

Strawman Fallacy, you're trying to twist the argument
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So again, your argument against Aura granting NPI is that an intangible grimm was killed by a weapon coated in Aura. Do you see how that doesnt make sense?
 
Anyway, please let's not derail at this point Transmutation can go

but not NPI, because like i said above, its not just for the Geist, but for another Grimm described as Intangible
 
Jinx666 said:
There are no scans of a Geist being hit by someone with no aura, unless you want me to bring up RWBY Chibi

What needs to be proven is that its Aura that lets people hit a Geist? The very power you're claiming has NPI? Cause yeah, the Geist HAS been physically hit, and shot killed, but you're saying that its only because of Aura which 0 evidence for

Strawman Fallacy, you're trying to twist the argument
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Bro wtf are you talking about?

How the hell do they kill it with bullets and weapons and punching them with their aura still up then?
 
Popted2 said:
Anyway, please let's not derail at this point Transmutation can go

but not NPI, because like i said above, its not just for the Geist, but for another Grimm described as Intangible
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Yes but literally Nobody has fought the Chill,or been named as such, and even then only 'Specialized people' can affect it, not Russel Thrush. the Chill is not relevant whatsoever
 
Damage3245 said:
Can't count the votes of anyone who only likes a post.
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You know seeing me mentioned despite not commenting was so confusing for a bit.

Though I agree with the op on the transmutation resistance should go (and I don’t agree with touch resistance).

When it comes to NPI, I’m on the fence.

Edit: Also sorry (directed to anyone who knows what I’m talking about) for not making the penny thread I talked about last week, Rwby scans are annoying to grab because they nuked their YouTube and I’ve been busy with some other threads.
 
Jinx666 said:
Yes but literally Nobody has fought the Chill,or been named as such, and even then only 'Specialized people' can affect it, not Russel Thrush. the Chill is not relevant whatsoever
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Im still not sure where youre getting this idea from. The notes specify that there are specialized huntsment to REMOVE a Chill without killing the host, not that they are the only ones that can kill a Chill
 
Jinx666 said:
Geists dont have aura. They're Grimm.
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Yeah they don't, aura users can hit them, people without aura can't do anything to protect themselves from them flying into them or going past them

Only huntsman can kill chills as shown by the QNA and the fairy tail episode
 
Alright but if Transmutation resistance can go, then this thread can be closed

I'll make a separate one for NPI, cause theres nothing saying that people can only hit a Geist grimm because of Aura, and otherwise the Geist HAS been taken out with physical attacks

RWBY on this wiki man
 
WeeklyBattles said:
Im still not sure where youre getting this idea from. The notes specify that there are specialized huntsment to REMOVE a Chill without killing the host, not that they are the only ones that can kill a Chill
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This is the whole justification for NPI on every page int he first place. Im not saying to kill it, im saying 'affect it'.

Dear god someone close the thread
 
Putting all the scans in one post so Jinx cant complain and so that people can see them on the second page of this debate:

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notes specify that there are specialized huntsment to REMOVE a Chill without killing the host, not that they are the only ones that can kill a Chill
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Geists stated to be intangible
 
Jinx666 said:
I'll make a separate one for NPI, cause theres nothing saying that people can only hit a Geist grimm because of Aura, and otherwise the Geist HAS been taken out with physical attacks

RWBY on this wiki man
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That is bordering on being RVT worthy Jinx, just letting you know
 
WeeklyBattles said:
Putting all the scans in one post so Jinx cant complain and so that people can see them on the second page of this debate:

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notes specify that there are specialized huntsment to REMOVE a Chill without killing the host, not that they are the only ones that can kill a Chill
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Geists stated to be intangible
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Geists are literally insatiable, anyone who can kill them has NPI and given a huntsmans job is to kill grimm, this includes Geists, who are intangible
 
Yes Geists can be intangible. But whats saying aura is the reason that they can be physically punched to death, so that we can go along your pipedream that theyre always in a passive intangible state 24/7?

Cause otherwise it suggests that Geists have to choose when they're intangible, and if they dont do it in time, they can get physically hit.
 
Jinx666 said:
Yes Geists can be intangible. But whats saying aura is the reason that they can be physically punches to death, so that we can go along your pipedream that theyre always in a passive intangible state 24/7?
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Spinoirr said:
Geists are literally insatiable, anyone who can kill them has NPI and given a huntsmans job is to kill grimm, this includes Geists, who are intangible
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