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RWBY: 8-A and MHS Revision

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WeeklyBattles said:
AP probably, though we need to determine who scales to Weiss' feat

I still refuse to budge on the speed downgrade
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Not sure that's how outliers work.

I mean... You can have that opinion on the matter but nigh unto everyone kinda disagrees.... So....
 
@Weekly

If we use your version of scaling, the feat would scale to Team RWBY's physicals, seeing as it just barely froze a Nevermore while Ruby could drag one up a hill.
 
Kepekley23 said:
@Weekly
If we use your version of scaling, the feat would scale to Team RWBY's physicals, seeing as it just barely froze a Nevermore while Ruby could drag one up a hill.
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How so?
 
@DMUA Weiss' 8-A ice manip doesnt scale to her physical stats, at the moment the only person i can think of who scales directly would be Vernal

Not nigh-everyone, a lot of people disagree as well
 
Contradictions are everywhere for RWBY. The Weiss feat fell apart already with the whole sheer logic of it. Typically those kind of feats would be fine if they weren't done with such a massive gap. RWBY was at its early stages and was still open to making mistakes whether visual or scaling feats properly. The whole Weiss feat isn't just contradicted by scaling from a single other battle. It's contradicted by everything else in the next few volumes.

The speed scaling feat is further complicated by the numerous things that the RWBY cast dodges and feels threatened by. Get someone to use an actual lightning strike in combat again and maybe it would be more sensible to keep this scaling valid.


Also regardless of whether it's physical or not, in that case Weiss should be superior to everyone. Which is not true. Others exert themselves going for those lower Tier 8 feats yet Weiss loses to them. It's a clear violation.

Sent this message 5 minutes earlier so who knows how updated the messages are now.

Either way can someone take a tally count? Even our RWBY Support Kal here is in support of the downgrades and is neutral to the one they don't support. Majority and big RWBY fan being supportive seems clear on where this is heading.


Also cool edit on that Future Diary vid if not false.

Edit - And I won't call this person out but someone's being hypocritical here. Watch your tone. Though it looks like it happened more from a heat of the moment hours earlier but still. Keep an eye on things.
 
Ricsi-viragosi said:
Shouldent being able to make something scale to ap? Which would scale to dust?
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Not physical AP no, though it would likely scale to the Queen Lancer who took a massive amount of raw Dust to the face and was unharmed (while also being unharmed by Weiss' attacks) which in turn scales to her Arma Gigas, which in turn, again, scales to Vernal, who curbstomped Weiss
 
Ricsi-viragosi said:
Shouldent being able to make something scale to ap? Which would scale to dust?
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This, weiss uses duat pretty regularly, and ruby exploded some in her face. They do sacle, and the idea of weiss onehotting them is inlogical
 
Ruby didnt tank any Dust though? The most she did was sneeze a small amount of powdered dust at Weiss, an amount that pales in comparison to the amount of ice Weiss made
 
Not to the massive extent Weiss does they dont, no one else in the series uses as much Dust as her except maybe Raven
 
and you want to tell me that weiss can oneshot everyone in her team, there is a problem with that you know?
 
Feat-wise, yes, she can, both her Dust and her summons are demonstrably more powerful than anything her team has shown to be capable of

Its also consistent with her Arma Gigas being exponentially more powerful than the Petra Gigas Team RNJR defeated due to having multiple Geists in one body as opposed to just one, and the Arma Gigas being made spefically to beat Weiss without her having a chance of winning, forcing her to resort to striking its vital spots to beat it.
 
Huh, so turns out that the Arma Gigas was stated to be comparable in power to an Atlesian Paladin as well

The one that took all of Team RWBY to do more than just minor damage to

The one that Yang oneshot with her semblance

The ones that were able to fight multiple students simultaneously

The one that Velvet was able to damage with her weapons

The one Weiss ended up oneshoting with the Arma Gigas after the Paladin was damaged badly by Velvet

Dont you love consistency :)

TL;DR Paladin is 8-A, students can deal chip damage on their own and somewhat damage them when working ogether, SEmblance Yang and Weiss with her summons can oneshot them
 
Actually, that proves it scales to their physical stats, seeing as Yang tanked a hit from one of'em
 
Yes. I think it was stated in the episode right after Qrow was introduced they weren't the real thing.

Also, Weekly, you're just making them scale more to Weiss's feat, not proving they have feats on that level.
 
@Kep Not exactly, It took two or more student to deal anything more than minor chip damage to a Paladin, which seeing as it would be prety much baseline would make the students high end 8-B, consistent with Penny's 8-B feat, with only Semblance amped Yang and Weiss with her summons 8-A
 
Yes, and she explicitly took a good amount of damage, which activated her Semblance, the entire point of the scene.
 
and again they werent the real thing, also, on an unrelated note, is it really alright to give rwby regen based on the regen weiss had while amped?
 
Ricsi-viragosi said:
and again they werent the real thing, also, on an unrelated note, is it really alright to give rwby regen based on the regen weiss had while amped?
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What are you talking about...? Where was it stated that Paladins arent a real thing?

The regen isnt scaled from Weiss, its scaled from Jaune healing a gash on his face coupled with Ren's statement that Aura gives you Regenerationn.
 
I feel like since Jaune is stated to have a lot of aura (more than the average fighter?) and he only healed a shallow cut, then most of the students should have Low Regenerationn instead of Mid-Low.
 
Uh, you're taking Weiss's feat and scaling it in half to other characters. You're not finding new feats or proving it doesn't scale to their physical stats. You're doing the exact opposite. It's still an outlier.

No, it's not consistent at all. Penny is far, far above any student, and her feat is baseline 8--B.
 
Kepekley23 said:
Uh, you're taking Weiss's feat and scaling it in half to other characters. You're not finding new feats or proving it doesn't scale to their stats. You're doing the exact opposite
No, it's not consistent at all. Penny is far, far above any student, and her feat is 8--B.
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I literally just found proof that its consistent, we dont need new feats
 
I literally just found proof that its consistent, we dont need new feats

You haven't found proof it's consistent. You're making people scale more to Weiss's feat, which is exactly why everyone agrees it's an outlier to begin with. Everyone who scales only has 8-C+ feats and struggles to do them. The Paladin's best feat is a casual 9-A feat, and it at best scales to 8-C+
 
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