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I can see removed posts, and I am looking over both threads.The vs thread or the removal thread? Because Bambu deleted several of my posts on the removal thread
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I can see removed posts, and I am looking over both threads.The vs thread or the removal thread? Because Bambu deleted several of my posts on the removal thread
If you need further clarification i explained it pretty well in the vs removal thread, or i can repost stuff here or on discordI mostly skimmed over the thread, and I really can't say whether or not the thread is a stomp, and there was FantaRin who agreed with Weekly, but otherwise it seems most agree more with Bambu. I am aware there is a difference between a decisive victory and a stomp; while the latter does have an obvious outcome, the loser will at least put up a good fight before going down. A stomp is basically a combination of no chance of victory and basically being overkilled in the process; I though those discussions were over with back in like 2018/2019.
But anyway, it's nearly 4 AM where I'm at plus I stop caring about Vs threads a long time ago, but Crabwhale might be reading more precisely, but I agree with him both should settle down for now.
https://vsbattles.com/threads/new-s...is-time-ronna-and-quetta.148085/#post-5419729I think it's based off a accepted thread? iirc there was a thread abt this.
He should have waited for the conclusion of that thread though. But Ok.
It was accepted in the CRT that was done for it and the recalc was accepted in the followup CRT, Bambu OKed the initial application and the second was okayed by a calc memberAight, firstly, this is not fully relevant to the thread, but the only calc in Hunter's profile that is 8-A is not accepted by any calc group. I do not know if it was okay'd elsewhere, but I felt as if it was at least relevant to ask here.
The Hunter is 130 tonsSecond, I do not know where the 5-8 times AP difference that Weekly claims in the thread comes from (unless I'm misinterpreting what he means by "stronger"). The Hunter is (using the as of right now uncomfirmed calc) at 1.3 trillion joules roughly, Drinker is at 2ish.
It is not decisive, the Hunter does not have a single scenario in which he can win, that is a textbook stomp.To the absolute best of my understanding, this match is not a stomp. I read through both profiles, both threads and a good chunk of the arguments. As a neutral party with incomplete knowledge of either verse, I cannot see the validity of this thread being in question. It is decisive, not a stomp.
Scans please? I am extremely offended at that implication and would appreciate it if you backed up that claim. I changed my argument in the second thread because Bambu and Lephyr made better points, at which point i agreed it was a stomp.Weekly however obfuscated facts at a few points, such as insinuating the thread switched course completely to supporting his stance after Bambu and Lephyr stopped responding (they never did through the duration of it).
Admittedly i did that yes but what was i supposed to do? Who is a staff member going to take the side of? The staff member who is buddy buddy with all the other staff? Or the blue name who everyone thinks is a problem becuase he gets mad when people target him?Furthermore, he did in fact spam the Removal thread during the tail end of this fiasco, which, at the point where an admin is deleting your posts, it's MAYBE a good idea to like, stop? Get another staff member to look at it perhaps? Regardless, trying to brute force the issue through spam is not what I would call a correct course.
I mean, lets be real, it aint normal users who are deleting responses of people and getting them thread banned just because they disagreed with them is it?Also, and this is a personal pet peeve so take it with a spoonful of salt, I do not like the angle of "admin bad abusing power grr". In almost every circumstance it is brought up, it is a groan-worthy response and holds about as much water as a sieve.
What im 'doing' is arguing a stomp thread should be removed. And i will not stop arguing that until it is.I'm not buddy buddy with all of the other staff. Shan't comment on the rest to avoid flooding the thread but I hardly speak to most of 'em. You know what you're doing, and I'm not fond of it. Leaving it at that.
You say that yet Bambu is the one who has dragged this out and into the RVT for refusing to let a thread that means nothing in the grand scheme of things be removedNo the core mission is character indexing. The VS matches are a fun little side thing that shouldn't be taken so seriously.
Okay. Then I seem to likely have mixed him up with @cloudyagami , so I apologise to Cloud in that case.The edits are by a guy named "Steezstifler", and honestly I have a hard time thinking they're malicious. Most of them seem to come from a place of genuine knowledge of the verse, and the only problem is that it is done without any CRT or consultation.
I'll drop the man a warning.
No problem i havent been making edits lately, only versus matchups since my last violationOkay. Then I seem to likely have mixed him up with @cloudyagami , so I apologise to Cloud in that case.
Very strongly agreed.No the core mission is character indexing. The VS matches are a fun little side thing that shouldn't be taken so seriously.
Okay. That is good then. Only apply changes that have been accepted by thread moderators and/or administrators in preceding content revision threads please.No problem i havent been making edits lately, only versus matchups since my last violation
I think it's based off a accepted thread? iirc there was a thread abt this.
@Flashlight237He should have waited for the conclusion of that thread though. But Ok.
Y'know as someone with autism I never really liked using a mental illness as a complete scapegoat for wrongdoings, and I don't want to take away from Weekly's problems, not at all, but it probably shouldn't be used as a TOTAL justification for what has happened.As for Weekly, I am very certain that he legitimately does not mean any harm.
He feels that he is doing everything he can to keep his behaviour under as good control as possible, despite the medicines he takes, and feeling like other members are recurrently trying to bully him, and that our staff does not do anything to stop it, and that he is not being allowed to defend himself due to constantly being assumed to be the bad guy regardless if other members have collectively behaved considerably worse against him beforehand.
I would appreciate if our staff members would be willing to keep their eyes open for other members behaving badly against him, and to show some consideration for hIs sensitive mental state. It was not at all fun for me back when I was overmedicated by bad psych medicines either.
That said, it probably would be best if Weekly tries to stay away from the types of arguments, such as versus threads, that make him upset until he feels considerably more stable and healthy again.
Im not using it as an excuse, i fully acknowledge that i have issues and have been working very hard for the past year an a half to get them under control, its just that even with that i still have an occasional tendency to let frustration get the better of me which im also trying to work onY'know as someone with autism I never really liked using a mental illness as a complete scapegoat for wrongdoings, and I don't want to take away from Weekly's problems, not at all, but it probably shouldn't be used as a TOTAL justification for what has happened.
Mental problems are something that should probably be addressed first and foremost if you're gonna try to evaluate someone's punishment.
A friend from Discord once told me:
"An explanation and an excuse are two different things. It's okay to give an explanation, as long as you don't use it as an excuse."
I hope that one day, you're able to maintain better self control then.Im not using it as an excuse, i fully acknowledge that i have issues and have been working very hard for the past year an a half to get them under control, its just that even with that i still have an occasional tendency to let frustration get the better of me which im also trying to work on
I have ADHD actually but close enoughWell, mid-level autism (which I also have) is a mental disability, not an illness, and the crisis caused by systematic overmedication of psych medicines mostly developed during the 1950s is continuously causing massive amounts of mental damage and instability, and definitely not to personally controllable degrees in more extreme cases.
However, I definitely think that Weekly should systematically try to avoid participating in any types of arguments that tend to make him upset from now onwards, including versus thread discussions.
Agreed. A very strong suggestion to stay away from such arguments, as we would much prefer to not be forced to ban Weekly for a long time again, due to him not being able to mentally handle them.I agree with Ovens. I personally think Weekly should stay away from the wiki for his own sake. What's above is no different than what used to happen before Weekly got banned for a year.
At the very least, as discussed between the HR group and among the bureaucrats, a 3-month ban from all vs threads with a suggestion to stay away from any other arguments that stress him out is good for starters. We will likely be forced to take more measures if this continues however.
Do you think that this would help you with your mental stability, @WeeklyBattles ?With all due respect to everyone involved, I don't think y'all get it. You haven't noticed a trend. The trend. I have, however.
Wiki users like Weekly who put so much time into it can never just quit. They have to be forced to quit, even if their mental health is actively being drained into a saggy, desiccated prune. We joke about VS-itis, but honestly I wouldn't be surprised if what we do here was classified under some actual obsessive disorder for at least a portion of our userbase.
At this rate, I think it might genuinely be in his best interests if we removed him permanently from the wiki. People have known Weekly outside of debating and they generally agree he's a decent fellow when the word VS doesn't leave anyone's mouth. It's not even about doling out punishment at this point, it's about cutting off an addict from the source of that addiction.