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Rohan fights the man that beat the strongest 8-C
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Knack FRA
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I'm sorry for doing that then, but it's really really important to me that the funny rockman's win streak against incredibly haxed characters continues.
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Knack FRA
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Beginning of DiU Rohan stomps
Later DiU Rohan and TSKR get slapped
Later DiU Rohan and TSKR get slapped
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He'd need to book Knack's core specifically
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And by the time he can do that. He get's aoed by Knack
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1. He can't even see the core, if he books a piece, that wouldn't be enough
2. Knack's AP is insanely above Rohan's
3. Not to the level of his AOE
2. Knack's AP is insanely above Rohan's
3. Not to the level of his AOE
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I mean, this is what Knack looks like
Can Rohan even know that he needs to snipe the core he can't see at a glance
Can Rohan even know that he needs to snipe the core he can't see at a glance
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Actually Rohan could book his core since it's still visible but it's just unlikely, not impossible
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This isn't a stomp, just a pretty decisive victory.
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Why are we forgetting Rohan can book inanimate objects, in full, as well full body transmutation far beyond what even early DIU Rohan did (he literally turned someone entirely into a stack of pages in the wind).
Even if he technically isnt hitting Kack himself, nothing is really preventing incap by turning the entirety of his body into a pile of paper.
Even if he technically isnt hitting Kack himself, nothing is really preventing incap by turning the entirety of his body into a pile of paper.
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One piece at a time? There's thousands of it, and they're not connected.
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He needs to book all the pieces, if he doesn't he will get killed by a massive stream of AOE
And by the way, he actually can't, they aren't connected to each other
And by the way, he actually can't, they aren't connected to each other
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He isnt limited to one thing at a time, we know this for an absolute fact, the only limit he has in how many things he can book at once is how many things he can point at in a certain span of time, or I guess with peak, how many things he can see and think yeah book that.
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Pretty sure Knack can just get new rocks.
And once again. he doesn't even know Knack's phsiology, he doesn't know that Knack is an orb with a bunch of rocks around him that aren't even connected. He will just assume the big thing is knack and if he tries to book him, it would only affect 1 rock, where Knack has thousands and can overwhelm Rohan with AoE
And once again. he doesn't even know Knack's phsiology, he doesn't know that Knack is an orb with a bunch of rocks around him that aren't even connected. He will just assume the big thing is knack and if he tries to book him, it would only affect 1 rock, where Knack has thousands and can overwhelm Rohan with AoE
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You sound uncertain.I'm Blue daba dee daba die said:
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True but he won't know that one attempt might not do it. Depends on the distance between them actually. Which is how much btw?Chariot190 said:
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4 Kilometers, so Knack overwhelms with AoE
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>4 kilometers
So more then enough time to figure it out and book Knack entirely, while avoiding Knack's attacks if not booking said attacks as well. The range isnt an advantage for Knack, it's probably his lose condition.
So more then enough time to figure it out and book Knack entirely, while avoiding Knack's attacks if not booking said attacks as well. The range isnt an advantage for Knack, it's probably his lose condition.
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How the heck can he figure out what Knack is after looking at him for a bit??? Rohan isn't a supergenius, if he sees Knack he will assume he is just a big rock guy. Plus the fact Rohan doesn't even have 4KM rangeChariot190 said:
Also, Knack's AoE is basically undodgable, if he comes close, he gets shredded apart in a swarm of rocks
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If booking the random relics aint stopping him Rohan can probably deduce with extreme ease that hey, maybe I should target that blue thing instead. And given he's at such a huge range that he could easily book literally thousands and thousands of pieces before Knack even gets in range, aint exactly hard to eventually spot the thing.
Yes, if he comes close, meaning Rohan would just have to sit there while Knack crosses a few km. I find it high unlikely someone as pragmatic and someone who avoids cqc and fights as much as Rohan would just let the giant rock monster that isnt incapped by HD's right away actually get close to him.
Yes, if he comes close, meaning Rohan would just have to sit there while Knack crosses a few km. I find it high unlikely someone as pragmatic and someone who avoids cqc and fights as much as Rohan would just let the giant rock monster that isnt incapped by HD's right away actually get close to him.
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Also this is 8-C Knack, Rohan can tank a handful of his blows via his own 8-C durability.
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And?? Rohan doesn't have 4KM range. Also, he can't even see the blue thing he needs to book to win.
Knack's AP is so high that Rohan gets shredded apart
Also, there is no way he can book all of the AoE rocks before he gets ripped apart
Knack's AP is so high that Rohan gets shredded apart
Also, there is no way he can book all of the AoE rocks before he gets ripped apart
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First of all, Knack has the AP advantage. Second of all, booking a single relic does nothing. Rohan would have to book every relic on Knack's body if he doesn't go for the orb first. Because, as I said, Knack is just made up of a bunch of rocks.
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Rohan's range is whatever he can see or his opponent can see, which I guess averaged out is 3.21869km. So, you right, it isnt 4km, but it's still drastically above Knack's range and barely changes my point. Also you ignored the fact that I already acounted for that, even if he cant see it initially, he'll see it after the firstfew hundred relics are thrown across the ground as paper.
No it aint, theyre both 8-C. Knack is 8-C in this match, ergo Rohan can tank hits. Rohan is only weaker offensively, not durability wise.
>Also, there is no way he can book all of the AoE rocks before he gets ripped apart
Good thing that's only a factor if Rohan just sits on his ass and lets Knack gets anywhere close enough, and tbh, not gonna lie but given Rohan's feats of doing things in quick succession within incredibly small time frames, I could easily see him capable of doing so if he's alert and ready expecting an attack. Dont forget he could keep up with MIH for awhile.
No it aint, theyre both 8-C. Knack is 8-C in this match, ergo Rohan can tank hits. Rohan is only weaker offensively, not durability wise.
>Also, there is no way he can book all of the AoE rocks before he gets ripped apart
Good thing that's only a factor if Rohan just sits on his ass and lets Knack gets anywhere close enough, and tbh, not gonna lie but given Rohan's feats of doing things in quick succession within incredibly small time frames, I could easily see him capable of doing so if he's alert and ready expecting an attack. Dont forget he could keep up with MIH for awhile.
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You're repeating things that have already been said and things I've already replied to. You dont need to repeat youself, especially when youre repeating things that I have literally already accounted for.Sir Ovens said:
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And Rohan would let his guard down why? He isnt one to do so, especially not after his initial **** ups. Knack scattering is tandamount to suicide here, because not only would that allow Rohan to see the core and realize it exists with much less hassle, but Rohan isnt one to just stroll up to a target, he canonically plans out every situation and path his opponent may take and what he may do as he it helps him write better material. If his opponent suddenly dies despite the fact he himself barely did anything and definitely not anything to kill him, Rohan would run what could of happened through his head, likely deduce his opponent is playing dead or setting a trap, and go from there.
This is something Rohan does constantly, we know as much because he says as much so he's not going to let his guard and justrandomly investigate till he can conform his opponent is no longer a threat.
This is something Rohan does constantly, we know as much because he says as much so he's not going to let his guard and justrandomly investigate till he can conform his opponent is no longer a threat.
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There's still the fact that Knack doesn't have to be in the pile of relics when he breaks up. A tactic Knack often employs is splitting up while his main orb and a few other relics are somewhere else. Knack can wait it out and then telekinetically control his relics from a distance.
Plus, how will Rohan deduce that the orb is the center of Knack? All his relics are unique in some way and it's very hard to tell them apart when broken up.
Plus, how will Rohan deduce that the orb is the center of Knack? All his relics are unique in some way and it's very hard to tell them apart when broken up.
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Except he'd be kinda hardpressed to do that without getting noticed, especially given the match starts with them all together. If he splits up i can assure you Rohan would pick up on it given as per SBA, they start across from each other and thus visible, and in that case, Rohan still wouldnt be stupid enough to just waltz up to one static pile playing dead given his in character thoughts, especially when he knows some parts of it broke up and moved away from the main body. Doesnt really change anything except puts Rohan even more on guard.
Because you literaly just explained why, the giant blue orb vs the bunch of barely different if at all brown and red rock fragments. It doesnt take a genius to figure out one of these things doesnt belong. Rohan would have to be quite literally mentally challenged to not figure out something is up.
Because you literaly just explained why, the giant blue orb vs the bunch of barely different if at all brown and red rock fragments. It doesnt take a genius to figure out one of these things doesnt belong. Rohan would have to be quite literally mentally challenged to not figure out something is up.
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Actually why's this even a argument, Knack's orb is on display, this is the 8-C Knack not the giant cluster Knack (Posted above, the picture above is misleading, he only looks like that in higher keys), it aint exactly hidden. Rohan would probably aim for it after the first or second try if not the first.
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We don't know Heaven's Door's range, saying it's 3 km is a bit of a stretch, and so is saying Rohan could clearly make out Knack's composition from that far away. He's probably gonna be shocked by it not working, at least for a few seconds, and if Knack realizes what's going on all he has to do is cover his centerpiece with a few random rocks.
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Actually we do, it's range of effect is limited to by what his opponent or he can see. The average human can see up to 2 miles. And wouldnt even matter Rohan can book and effect others from a considerable distance away anyway.
He'd be shocked for a grand total of not even half a second, especially given it aint like he's fighting a animal, his expections would be challenged and he'd probably be expecting it. Why would Knack realize what's going on? He cant actually see the effects of HD, at best he'd notice some of his parts not working but that's it, he cant see HD, cant see the effects of HD nor can he see any tell from Rohan that could tip him off, and the like, plus if he does hide the giant orb in the middle of his chest, would kinda tip Rohan off that it's probably important.
He'd be shocked for a grand total of not even half a second, especially given it aint like he's fighting a animal, his expections would be challenged and he'd probably be expecting it. Why would Knack realize what's going on? He cant actually see the effects of HD, at best he'd notice some of his parts not working but that's it, he cant see HD, cant see the effects of HD nor can he see any tell from Rohan that could tip him off, and the like, plus if he does hide the giant orb in the middle of his chest, would kinda tip Rohan off that it's probably important.
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Watching the very video used for his tiering, no, not really, it's still on clear display in the middle of his chest not hidden by anything at all. You're acting like the orb is hidden within him or covered by other relics, it isnt, it's on display for all to see by default even in that form. So as said, why's this even an argument again?Sir Ovens said:
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