Rocky CRT: Scaling Changes

[Flashlight237]

Well, I think it's time to do a CRT on Rocky: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:KLOL506/Rocky_IV:_Ivan_Drago_Punch

A good chunk of the characters in the verse would scale to this, most noticeably Ivan Drago, but also Rocky Balboa (as of Rocky IV), Viktor Drago, and Adonis Creed (specifically in Creed II where he's at his peak). Now, you may be wondering, would Apollo scale? Well... No... See, if you look here:



Every punch Apollo Creed landed at worst only made Drago flinch. And while Apollo tried to hold on, and even somehow entered Round 2, he was curbstomped from minute one. I'd sooner believe that Apollo Creed scales to a real-life horse than he would to Ivan Drago.

Practically every calc group member who went into the feat seems to have approved of the feat, so I think this should be a valid addition for the verse. Mhmm.

 

[Vzearr]

Can't boxers punch with 700+ PSI? This would be like scaling humans to Wall level. Though I may be missing something.

 

[Flashlight237]

Can't boxers punch with 700+ PSI? This would be like scaling humans to Wall level. Though I may be missing something.

You kinda are missing something. The highest punch force recorded in a study is 5358 newtons (around 1204 lbs of force): https://www.researchgate.net/figure...-Number-of-Hits-by-Boxer-for-Six_tbl2_4744109

At a distance of at most 0.8 meters, that amounts to at most 4286.4 joules. Nowhere near Wall Level.

Main difference here is Drago's punch force was only ever measured in pressure.

 

[Vzearr]

You kinda are missing something. The highest punch force recorded in a study is 5358 newtons (around 1204 lbs of force): https://www.researchgate.net/figure...-Number-of-Hits-by-Boxer-for-Six_tbl2_4744109

At a distance of at most 0.8 meters, that amounts to at most 4286.4 joules. Nowhere near Wall Level.

Main difference here is Drago's punch force was only ever measured in pressure.

I'd counter that by presenting multiple sources showing boxers punch with over 700 PSI. What do we generally do about contradictory sources?

Though, even 4286 J seems quite high for a human.

 

[Flashlight237]

I'd counter that by presenting multiple sources showing boxers punch with over 700 PSI. What do we generally do about contradictory sources?

Though, even 4286 J seems quite high for a human.

The last link is a forum thread on how inaccurate that pressure rating sounds.

 

[Vzearr]

The last link is a forum thread on how inaccurate that pressure rating sounds.

Probably should have read through that one more lol. Anyhow, three sources > one.

What do we generally do about contradictory sources?

 

[Vzearr]

I'll drop this though. There are far to many contradicting sources on the punching force of fighters, so I can't really take my debunks seriously.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Haha, they still get stomped by Punch Out cast

In all seriousness, this looks good to me.

 

[Flashlight237]

Haha, they still get stomped by Punch Out cast

In all seriousness, this looks good to me.

Funny you mention Punch Out. I just approved of a calc involving NES Super Macho Man. But that's a CRT for another time.

 

[Flashlight237]

I should mention, Ivan Dragon hits 65 m/s when I put his measurements and approximate delivery time of 0.2 seconds into Omni-Calc's punch force calc: https://prnt.sc/oTm3naruDn8B

This is based on his training punches in this GIF: https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net...osaurus.mp4/revision/latest?cb=20230704080811

 

[Flashlight237]

Bump

 

[Qawsedf234]

I'm okay with it

 

[Silvervigilant]

Apollo should still be wall level i think?! Because in Rocky 4 it's that even a normal heavyweight in universe as 700 psi punch

Also speaking about scaling. I would like to mention that Sly once did a in depth fight analysis between Rambo and Rocky and on his view they both were pretty much comparable. Is this useable to upgrade Rocky? Rambo is currently Wall Level+ here and have subsonic speed. Rocky being comparable to him would also make him this strong, but i don't know if this is useable since these 2 never fought canonicly. Still Stallone words hold alot of weight since he directed and wrote most of the films of these 2 franchises. What do you guys think about this?

 

[Flashlight237]

Apollo should still be wall level i think?! Because in Rocky 4 it's that even a normal heavyweight in universe as 700 psi punch

Also speaking about scaling. I would like to mention that Sly once did a in depth fight analysis between Rambo and Rocky and on his view they both were pretty much comparable. Is this useable to upgrade Rocky? Rambo is currently Wall Level+ here and have subsonic speed. Rocky being comparable to him would also make him this strong, but i don't know if this is useable since these 2 never fought canonicly. Still Stallone words hold alot of weight since he directed and wrote most of the films of these 2 franchises. What do you guys think about this?

Probably not a good idea to do that if you ask me. WoG is one of those things that are heavily scrutinized here in VBW. Rocky and Rambo not having crossed over let alone fought canonically just makes the statement flimsy.