- 4,113
- 2,160
Okay, so here's the deal. Glass Joe is the weakest boxer of the entire boxing scene, scoring in 99 losses and a single win, that win officially stated to be a freak accident against Nick Bruiser and a ludonarrative dissonance. Glass Joe also downscales from literally everything in the Punch Out universe. See, in the Punch-Out universe, the Minor Circuit is their equivalent to amateur boxing. Don Flamenco, whose bull feat put him and others at comparable and higher levels at 114.1 kilojoules, is the champion of the Major Circuit. The Major Circuit would basically be the equivalent of a national professional boxing championship whereas the World Circuit is, as the name implies, the world championship. Glass Joe only got on the same level as Little Mac after getting headgear!
Directly comparing Glass Joe to Don Flamenco, Don Flamenco needed to be tired to be KO'd with a 3-star Star Punch from Little Mac. Glass Joe, on the other hand, can be one-shot by a Star Punch of any degree while mostly energized. Speed-wise, while Piston Hondo can be likened to a bullet train, the definition of those things vary ranging from 200 to 250 km/h, or 55.55 to 69.44 m/s (median value of 62.5 m/s).
As for Ivan Draco, Ivan Draco netted a punch force of 2150 PSI, which assuming 4 inches of impact area, would equate to 8600 lbs or 38254.7 newtons. Assuming 0.8 meters for how far he punched from a simple arm-length punch (since his punches in the testing done were fairly dinky in the GIF sourced: ), this would put Draco's KE at 30603.8 joules. Ivan Draco was the World Heavyweight Champion until Rocky came along, with 31 wins (all by knockout, with one near-instant death goddamn!) and only one loss ever (against Rocky Balboa!). I punched in the numbers of Ivan's punch on Omni Calculator based on the timeframe of one of Ivan's training punches in the linked GIF (approx. 0.2 seconds) and got a figure of 65 m/s: https://prnt.sc/oTm3naruDn8B
Oh, and by the way, Ivan basically dura-stomped Apollo Creed, and dura-stomping another world champion is something else entirely!:
VBW doesn't exactly have a precedent for no-selling or tanking attacks despite having a precedent for one-shotting someone (7.5x his opponent's durability it seems), so I dunno how well Ivan Draco tanking Apollo Creed would scale to Draco's durability through any means.
So basically, I'm pitting two boxers with an AP gap of ≤3.73x, but the weaker one is a champion that tanked world champion punches while the stronger one is a loser who can't take a serious hit from a newbie!
That being said, the battle will be set up like a boxing match in that both fighters would start in two corners opposite of each other and speed... Eh, I don't think speed matters that much since Ivan only has a 6.8% speed disadvantage over Glass Joe at Joe's fastest, and even then I'm pretty sure Glass Joe downscales from Piston Hondo anyway because, of course, Glass Joe downscales from everyone.
That being said, here are their profiles:
Ivan Drago's Profile
Glass Joe's Profile
Who takes this?
The Champion: 7 (Ikelaggan, SheevShezarrine, CuteAnimeNekoGirl99, Peppersalt43, Da3ggman, CBslayeR, ZoroNotZolo)
The Loser: 0
Inconclusive: 0
Directly comparing Glass Joe to Don Flamenco, Don Flamenco needed to be tired to be KO'd with a 3-star Star Punch from Little Mac. Glass Joe, on the other hand, can be one-shot by a Star Punch of any degree while mostly energized. Speed-wise, while Piston Hondo can be likened to a bullet train, the definition of those things vary ranging from 200 to 250 km/h, or 55.55 to 69.44 m/s (median value of 62.5 m/s).
As for Ivan Draco, Ivan Draco netted a punch force of 2150 PSI, which assuming 4 inches of impact area, would equate to 8600 lbs or 38254.7 newtons. Assuming 0.8 meters for how far he punched from a simple arm-length punch (since his punches in the testing done were fairly dinky in the GIF sourced: ), this would put Draco's KE at 30603.8 joules. Ivan Draco was the World Heavyweight Champion until Rocky came along, with 31 wins (all by knockout, with one near-instant death goddamn!) and only one loss ever (against Rocky Balboa!). I punched in the numbers of Ivan's punch on Omni Calculator based on the timeframe of one of Ivan's training punches in the linked GIF (approx. 0.2 seconds) and got a figure of 65 m/s: https://prnt.sc/oTm3naruDn8B
Oh, and by the way, Ivan basically dura-stomped Apollo Creed, and dura-stomping another world champion is something else entirely!:
VBW doesn't exactly have a precedent for no-selling or tanking attacks despite having a precedent for one-shotting someone (7.5x his opponent's durability it seems), so I dunno how well Ivan Draco tanking Apollo Creed would scale to Draco's durability through any means.
So basically, I'm pitting two boxers with an AP gap of ≤3.73x, but the weaker one is a champion that tanked world champion punches while the stronger one is a loser who can't take a serious hit from a newbie!
That being said, the battle will be set up like a boxing match in that both fighters would start in two corners opposite of each other and speed... Eh, I don't think speed matters that much since Ivan only has a 6.8% speed disadvantage over Glass Joe at Joe's fastest, and even then I'm pretty sure Glass Joe downscales from Piston Hondo anyway because, of course, Glass Joe downscales from everyone.
That being said, here are their profiles:
Ivan Drago's Profile
Glass Joe's Profile
Who takes this?
The Champion: 7 (Ikelaggan, SheevShezarrine, CuteAnimeNekoGirl99, Peppersalt43, Da3ggman, CBslayeR, ZoroNotZolo)
The Loser: 0
Inconclusive: 0
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