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Retak'ka vs Kizaru
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Okay, just one quick question before we continue with this. Do any of y'all, one piece supporters have any solid calcs of how hot are Kizaru's light and Akainu's magma?
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Akainu's is roughly 5x the temp of the sun. 28,000 °C to be exact for his passive aura.
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don't remember
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Where was this pulled out of?
...just find it.I think I remember seeing a Calc.... Or I think it was just someone calculating how to Calc someone's heat
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Probably lightning
Since you're requesting a heat Calc, can we get once for BoBoiBoy verse?
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Power Sphera Universe Assorted Temperature of Attacks Calculations
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As in, which character he harmed or affected had heat resistance on that level.
Working on the fourth one using thermal expansion formula.
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Still incomplete, I need one or 2 more. Calculations finished.Power Sphera Universe Assorted Temperature of Attacks Calculations
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Oh, let's see here, I'm pretty sure Kizaru harmed Apoo Via heat at one point, and that guy definitely scales to the Lightning heat resistance.
Yep, and I can just about guarantee there are more anti-feats
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.... Couldn't find it... Don't even remember on what the Calc was about
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Power Sphera Universe Assorted Temperature of Attacks Calculations
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So...umm...10+ digits of temperature resistance
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The unapproved one, you mean?Power Sphera Universe Assorted Temperature of Attacks Calculations
So...umm...10+ digits of temperature resistance
I checked that shit before and that fifth calc wasn't there at all
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So what's this for?Power Sphera Universe Assorted Temperature of Attacks Calculations
So...umm...10+ digits of temperature resistance
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Basically, Kizaru's beams ain't gonna dura neg Retakka the same way it did to almost everyone else.
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I mean, kizaru still has resistance negation... Even if you resist heat via haki it will still burn and pierce you
What does Retak'ka mostly do in character?
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Depending on the elemental power he chooses, Retakka would either rush in for electrical melee attacks (Voltra), attack with large vines (Darkwood), use powerful wind blasts and hair attacks (Tempest) or blast away with powerful energy beams (Gamma)
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On what level of resistance negation? Because if we're talking about supernatural type of resistance negation then it wouldn't work because well, he doesn't do sorcery and his abilities are all tech based.
Mostly gamma beams or bursts and it would always be at
full power. Unlike Kizaru who doesn't start off seriously and more or so casual and if kizaru is caught by him. Well, he would be absorbed completely till he becomes dust. 4:50 (gamma burst), 5:36 (Absorbtion) and 6:34 (wave attack)
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Proof of the Apsorption absorbing living matter?
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Ok... And how will any of those attacks negate his intangabilty?
It's not just supernatural... It's natural type of resistances that gets negated... Like negating luffy's rubber which is natural
All logias are natural as well
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Yee.. Retak'ka won't be able to damage kizaru via him having intangabilty and high regen
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Kizaru takes this imo
Better Range
Better Mobility
Superior Reaction Speed
Energy Conversion
Experience
Intangibility
Better Range
Better Mobility
Superior Reaction Speed
Energy Conversion
Experience
Intangibility
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Non-Physical Interaction (Should be capable of physically interacting with lightning and photons like BoBoiBoy)
"Negating luffy's rubber which is natural."
There is nothing natural about fruits that gives you powers. In fact had Luffy's body been just actual rubber. Lightning would've worked on him anyway and melt him to black goop.
Real rubber can't withstand lightning
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OP says it's natural so it's natural.
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Come again?
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One Piece says Devil Fruits are natural so they're natural
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Interacting /=/ negating... The way haki negates intangabilty is by making the elements solid to where you basically negate the intangabilty and hit their true body
It's stated natural, it's natural...
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Natural in their world yes. But only natural in their own world. Same thing with Haki which is also natural in their own world.
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No... Bro wtf you talking about, Haki isn't even natural... It's willpower/spirit based
Devil fruit effects DNA, you can artificially reproduce devil fruit powers... They are natural
They are not magic or spiritual or anything
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I'd like a scan that states all of the above.
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Artificial Devil Fruit
Artificial Devil Fruits are man-made fruits designed to give consumers special powers like a natural Devil Fruit would. The creation of artificial Devil Fruits has been attempted by two scientists, who once belonged to the research institute MADS: Vegapunk and Caesar Clown. Vegapunk later...
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So basically, natural AND biology based abilities right?
Artificial Devil Fruit
Artificial Devil Fruits are man-made fruits designed to give consumers special powers like a natural Devil Fruit would. The creation of artificial Devil Fruits has been attempted by two scientists, who once belonged to the research institute MADS: Vegapunk and Caesar Clown. Vegapunk later...
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Yes basically? Biology is already apart of natural kinda
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If that's the case, then he wouldn't be able to negate Retak'ka's heat resistance.
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And why not?
You literally even said it's artificial
But again... How will Retak'ka be able to damage kizaru's true body?
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Here's the thing. Retak'ka's powers does not originate from a biological source. It's purely tech, he was not born with it nor did he gain it from consuming something. Rather he got it from Gammabot as explained below (do skip some parts of the initial dialogue) :
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Yee idk what the f you're trying to say
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What I'm trying to say is. Negating resistance based on natural biology is not equivalent to negating resistance based on something as artificial as technology.
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