Removing time abilities for some characters

[KLOL506]

Seems fine to me.

 

[Eficiente]

There is a problem here

"Characters in video games shown and/or stated to be able to "slow" or "stop" time entirely might just be making use of an ability that consists of combined Speed Amplification, Enhanced Senses and Perception Manipulation, unless the game and its lore explicitly state it to be otherwise."

So being stated to be time manip isn't enough and you need that to be stated? I don't think we seriously believe that to have such power an statement affirming so is invalid and the lore needs to state that as well. Also it should be "or/and Perception Manipulation", if not just "or".

 

[KLOL506]

Hmmmm, any idea on how it could be better-worded?

I think adding "confirmed" in the end would fix things.

Also, Perception Manipulation is definitely involved, as one's perception is always amped to greater levels than one's movement speed.

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

By explicitly stated I think he means that it is said that the character can actually control time with actual proof such as other people being affected by your ability to manipulate time.

Example, a god can control the time of a person or the universe itself. This is legit.

If a character is stated to be able to slow down time but nothing saying that others are affected then this is just another case of perception manipulation.

 

[KLOL506]

Most of these abilities include people actually being affected, so to speak.

 

[Eficiente]

any idea on how it could be better-worded?

"Characters in video games shown to be able to "slow" or "stop" time entirely might just be making use of an ability that consists of Speed Amplification, Enhanced Senses or/and Perception Manipulation, unless the game or its lore explicitly state it to be otherwise."

 

[KLOL506]

Works.

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

It should also say that their so called time slow/stop should affect others to be rated as true time manipulation.

 

[Eficiente]

A similar note should be added to the Game Mechanics page btw.

 

[Eficiente]

It should also say that their so called time slow/stop should affect others to be rated as true time manipulation.

I mean, time slow and other forms of time manip may not do so.

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

Other people who witness the character using their time accel/slow should also acknowledge that they are indeed slowing/accelerating time.

Add this to my statement.

 

[Eficiente]

Still, one example.

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

So, what are you trying to prove?

 

[Eficiente]

Anyone witnessing time accel/slow, ect. can be perfectly unaware of it.

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

That's just one example. It is explicitly stated that he accelerates time, which is already covered in this thread.

Time Havoc, Ren Fuji are examples of what I said about people being aware of their time slow/accel abilities.

 

[Eficiente]

So?

 

[GyroNutz]

If there's enough reason to say it's time manip, then it's time manip. A one-off in game description like 'Bob Johns slows time around him by holding down A' probably isn't sufficient, but if it's backed up by other characters or there's less burden of proof (e.g. Bob Johns has other time based abilities) then it's legit

 

[Antvasima]

"Characters in video games shown to be able to "slow" or "stop" time entirely might just be making use of an ability that consists of Speed Amplification, Enhanced Senses or/and Perception Manipulation, unless the game or its lore explicitly state it to be otherwise."

I have updated the text.

 

[Antvasima]

A similar note should be added to the Game Mechanics page btw.

Are you certain? It is a more generalised page.

 

[Eficiente]

Ok then. I thought it had a list of examples or something.

 

[Antvasima]

So should we close this thread?

 

[Callsign_Castle]

"Characters in video games stated to be able to "slow" or "stop" time entirely might just be making use of an ability that consists of Speed Amplification, Enhanced Senses or/and Perception Manipulation, unless the game or its lore explicitly states or shows it to be otherwise."

 

[Eficiente]

@Callsign Castle Already fixed.

Not sure what's left here, I guess something(?)

 

[Callsign_Castle]

The bold is what I suggest changing from the current text.

 

[Eficiente]

Elaborate.

 

[Antvasima]

I made a slight adjustment: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/index.php?title=Time_Manipulation&diff=3747808&oldid=3744945

 

[Callsign_Castle]

That is fine, this can be closed now.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

I will do so then.