Removal of "Negative Theology" Scaling

[IdiosyncraticLawyer]

I think we can agree at reality +1 with NT.

Any objections?
@Deagonx @Ultima_Reality @DontTalkDT @Antvasima @Qawsedf234 @DarkDragonMedeus @Zaratthustra @Firestorm808 @Agnaa @DarkGrath

 

[Firestorm808]

None at this time.

 

[Agnaa]

I think we can agree at reality +1 with NT.

Ultima wouldn't, but I think DT and I would.

 

[Deagonx]

That's fine with me in cases where superiority is indicated.

 

[Antvasima]

@ImmortalDread

Have you finished with your work on the following page, and does it look good to the rest of you?

Negative Theology

vsbattles.fandom.com

@DontTalkDT

 

[ImmortalDread]

I have added the suggestions from Darkgrath, but given the fact there are still contentions against it from Ultima, I am still waiting for the thread to be concluded.

 

[Deagonx]

I have added the suggestions from Darkgrath, but given the fact there are still contentions against it from Ultima, I am still waiting for the thread to be concluded.

I'm not trying to steamroll Ultima, but his view on it wasn't the majority and this thread has lost most of its steam. I believe we should apply the current majority opinion and later on we can do another CRT if someone feels particularly strongly about making a change to it.

 

[Ultima_Reality]

Any objections?

As said elsewhere, I'm not exactly in a position to do wiki stuff at length, presently, and my priorities even on the wiki currently lie elsewhere (Marvel revisions). That said:

I endorse the use of that counterargument.

Would you elaborate on that? Because that seems like it kinda clashes with what you've just said (In that you're willing to apply the aforementioned line of thought to invalidate a statement, but not when the statement is valid to start with). Not too sure if I'm gonna argue any further, so, clarification here is what I want, largely.

 

[IdiosyncraticLawyer]

@Deagonx @Ultima_Reality @ImmortalDread @Agnaa Could we finish this up?

 

[ImmortalDread]

I am patiently awaiting the conclusion of the Agnaa/Ultima debate to finalize the current draft. It appears that Ultima is already anticipating Agnaa's response.

 

[IdiosyncraticLawyer]

@Ultima_Reality How does your mass Tiering System revision affect this thread?

 

[IdiosyncraticLawyer]

@Ultima_Reality How does your mass Tiering System revision affect this thread?

@Ultima_Reality

 

[IdiosyncraticLawyer]

@Ultima_Reality How does your mass Tiering System revision affect this thread?

@Ultima_Reality

 

[IdiosyncraticLawyer]

@Ultima_Reality How does your mass Tiering System revision affect this thread?

@Ultima_Reality

 

[Phoenks]

Hey, I think you should stop @ing him... Clearly he's busy and probably doesn't have the time to respond right now. I'm sure he'll be explaining that at some point regardless of this thread, anyway.

 

[Deagonx]

We should likely just focus on applying the page after making some edits to it.

 

[IdiosyncraticLawyer]

We should likely just focus on applying the page after making some edits to it.

So what do we still need to do here before making the page?

 

[Deagonx]

So what do we still need to do here before making the page?

Ultima wanted to finish a discussion, but that was over three months ago. Dread made a draft page but it could use a fair bit of editing before making it official. I can help rewrite it.

 

[Ultima_Reality]

@Ultima_Reality

Apophatic theology in its pure glory (And therefore as the "debunk" in this thread pertains to it), in my view, is incoherent and shouldn't really be tiered on that basis. Granted, a milder form of it is incorporated into my proposals for Tier 0, so, in that sense this thread's existence is made a bit awkward by that. I suggest we close this until discussion of the Tiering System revisions is finished.

 

[Antvasima]

Apophatic theology in its pure glory (And therefore as the "debunk" in this thread pertains to it), in my view, is incoherent and shouldn't really be tiered on that basis. Granted, a milder form of it is incorporated into my proposals for Tier 0, so, in that sense this thread's existence is made a bit awkward by that. I suggest we close this until discussion of the Tiering System revisions is finished.

That is probably fine, but somebody needs to remember to reopen this thread afterwards as well.

 

[Ultima_Reality]

Right, then.

 

[IdiosyncraticLawyer]

It's finished now.

 

[Ultima_Reality]

I don't believe there is anything more to say on the topic. Apophatic theology is a valid way to net Tier 0, as laid out in the revised Omnipotence page. That's it.