Regarding Homer's 9-B.

[EMagoIorSouI]

I've been thinking about this for the longest time, but never got to making the thread until now. Why is Homer 9-B for being able to lift a motorcycle and utilize it as a weapon? Are most Baseball players instantly 9-C physically when they use a baseball bat? no, they aren't. Honestly the motorcycle feat seems like a lifting strength/weapon mastery feat, nothing there to prove his AP and tier.

Homer's profile is severely lacking a lot of his feats anyways, I'm sure he has various Toon Force and Regenerative feats, the motorcycle feat also counts as weapon mastery.

As for the 9-B thing for Homer, either Homer gets another Wall level feat or gets downgraded, which to be fair seems kinda unlikely, Homer seems like the type of character to sustain numerous Wall level feats, I'm sure The Simpsons has numerous of them it's a 30 year old cartoon after all.

 

[Bobsican]

I have to agree with this.

 

[EMagoIorSouI]

Also, just gonna point out, with Homer's lack of abilities Spongebob VS. Homer is a complete stomp.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Pretty sure there are plenty feats, will look it up 'n a few hours tough.

 

[Hellbeast1]

I always thought it was based on his fight with Peter Griffin which I think is canonical (He also has fallen crazy heights which might yield this)

 

[EMagoIorSouI]

Homer is in need of new powers and abilities too, as I said there are likely plenty of Toon Force and Regenerative abilities.

 

[Hellbeast1]

Also he should have the whole Radiation Empowerment thing like Peter (Since they both did that)

 

[EMagoIorSouI]

I believe the crossover was uncanon, and feats involving crossovers are insufficient on the wiki.

 

[Hellbeast1]

Well we have no problem if they are canon but if non canon we cannot use it (That means we can't use the radiation for Peter if that's the case)

 

[EMagoIorSouI]

If that's the case then that should be removed. Unless they're referring to another occasion?

 

[Hellbeast1]

Maybe (I'd recommend contacting the verse's knowledgable members)

 

[Bobsican]

Are the Simpsons games canon? One of them got retconed at the end by "god", no, not WoG, actually the "Jesus" of the verse retconned it as shown in the footage of its ending.

They had many abilities exclusively there...

 

[Endless_Astrograph_Sorcerer]

Does this count? ovo

 

[PaChi2]

This is a CRT.

 

[Insecurity97]

Yeah his profile is just...kinda empty. Hes got plenty of durability feats such as being in a house-sized explosion

 

[EMagoIorSouI]

@Rndless that feat can actually work, yes. But I feel we should list a few more feat regarding his tier first.

 

[GyroNutz]

Nice supporting feat?

 

[RKGenki]

Iirc in an episode he fell from the sky faster than sound after flying with a wingsuit

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

The thing is that a baseball bat isn't as heavy as a motorcycle, so it's hardly a feat to swing it around. The same can't be said about what Homer did.

 

[RKGenki]

Here's a link to Homer's fall

This would need to be calced. Afaik it might even reach 9-A

 

[CrimsonStarFallen]

https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/1391624

There are a lot of Homer feats here.

 

[Antoniofer]

Homer is consistently portrayed to be out of shape (not including those episodes where he rarely becomes athletic or similar) no different that the typical fat people, most of its feat just involve tanking stuff, if any, it just scale to durability.

@Genki, a free fall is never yield nothing above Wall level in human beings.

 

[RKGenki]

@Antoniofer that is considering the fall to be at terminal velocity. Here he falls faster than sound and makes a crater

I had a similar feat calced for HDN and it was 9-A (can't find the calc though)

 

[CrimsonStarFallen]

Here Homer breaks glass and cracks a vending machine with a kick.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Pretty sure Homer is also potrayed as much stronger in attacks too, he has simply lacks proper stamina

 

[RKGenki]

Made a quick KE calc for the fall (considering he didn't fall at terminal velocity, and we have his speed and his weight)

Considering he outspeed sound, I'm going to make 2 ends, one with the speed of sound and one with 1.5 times that speed. Homer's most consistent weight is 239 pounds

Low end

0.5*108.409*343^2 = 6377105.2205 Joules, 0.0015241647276529807 tons

High end

0.5*108.409*514.5^2 = 14348486.746125 Joules, 0.003429370637219207 tons

Both 9-B+, borderline 9-A

I'd say the explosion of the house needs to be calced as well, as it's probably higher

 

[CrimsonStarFallen]

Here is another possible 9-A feat.

 

[RKGenki]

^That's the explosion I mentioned in my comment

 

[EMagoIorSouI]

Homer can scale off of his durability possibly. That is, if he can match people who can harm him.

 

[EMagoIorSouI]

Also, that explosion within the Simpson household could be calced.

 

[Insecurity97]

That is, if he can match people who can harm him.

Well, Bart mostly harms Homer and he does strangle Bart on a constant basis, so that could work...

 

[RKGenki]

Well, the feat I calced also has Bart tanking it so

 

[RKGenki]

Got the calc evaluated

Solid 9-B+

 

[The_Calaca]

Cool. Now we got a proper justification.

 

[EMagoIorSouI]

We got a durability feat through. Better than his current one albeit it's only slightly better.

Now we just need more feats tier-wise and abilties.

 

[RKGenki]

Well, the feat I calced also has Bart tanking it so

And they harm each other consistently, so it should scale

 

[Insecurity97]

Bump

 

[The_Calaca]

Here's a list of abilities missing in Homer's profile:

Enhanced Senses: Has a good smell when it comes to food. Bart states that he can even hear the desserts.

Weapon Mastery: Used a motorcycle as a weapon and is proficient with a gun.

Good Hand-to-Hand combatant: Fought with several people in the series.

Vehicular Mastery: In the movie (which is canon with the series) we see him driving the motorcycle in the dome

Resistance to Radiation Manipulation: Can walk with radiation covering his whole body.

Pressure Points: As a bodyguard he learned to incapacitate people.

Possibly Broadway Force: Like here.

I'll make a revision in some days of the most important things.

Also we should change the stamina description. He has suffered things that fit in the monstruosity definition like when he fell from the risk twice and was conscious or the several nutcracker in the snow.

 

[GyroNutz]

Here's a list of abilities missing in Homer's profile:
Resistance to Radiation Manipulation: Can walk with radiation covering his whole body.

He also blocked a nuclear explosion by sitting on where it was gonna come out.

Probably has a ton of toon force feats as well

 

[The_Calaca]

Yup. I forgot that. Homer's resistance is insane.

I'll look that later. I'm watching the entire series rn.