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This whole thread has been us debating on whether this is an Incon or Ruby takes the win lol.Need more people to vote on this cursed MU
Are you confident on voting Ruby? You sound kinda iffy.Red fra?
He has outsmarted literal geniuses on a handful of occasions. Him being "dumb" stems from his laziness and hatred for school.Remember test isn't very smart and is kinda dumb
I see your point. But Johnny still shouldn't have much of an issue outsmarting Ruby. If Johnny's smart enough combat and strategy wise to outsmart people who can literally create things that are considered Scientifically impossible, he shouldn't have much of an issue with Ruby.That may be true but his sisters aren't combat smart, just smart in terms of inventions
Those are two different smarts. Like how Goku is a combat genius but is stupid at everything else
Wdym by "had it not been for unknown factors?" Just asking.Also Ruby devised a plan to beat James Ironwood and it actually worked had it not been for unknown factors
Ironwood outmatched Arthur Watts in a 1v1 fight with Watts being a genius who designed most of the sci-fi level technology used in the series
The logic is a bit weird but if we're using it then Ruby has outsmarted people who can outmatched geniuses in combat
Do you want me to show you a couple of examples?Isn't most of the time his sisters are emotional or just off guard and that's how he "outsmarts them"
Like neo takeing the relic to cinder and her useing a all knowing being to know what ruby is doingWdym by "had it not been for unknown factors?" Just asking.
Outmatch and outsmart are two different things. Johnny has outsmarted and outmatched geniuses. Ironwood only outmatched a genius.
Are you saying Ruby's plan would've worked if weren't for those factors?Like neo takeing the relic to cinder and her useing a all knowing being to know what ruby is doing
The skill department is kinda 50/50.I really doubt that base Johnny without his equipment can beat Ruby's skill advantage vs Johnny's "outsmarting his sisters" thing
Because again combat genius vs building things genius
Could you explain in more detail what DNA ninja is?I'll give the skill advantage to Ruby, but she's certainly at a disadvantage when it comes to hand-to-hand combat, especially against someone who has Ninja DNA.
^Johnny's the better hand-to-hand combatant. It's been stated that Johnny (and his family) have Ninja DNA.
That doesn't matter because she has better lifting strength and can hold on to her weapon and she has battled hand to hand fighters before with her weaponI'll give the skill advantage to Ruby, but she's certainly at a disadvantage when it comes to hand-to-hand combat, especially against someone who has Ninja DNA.
You are definitely able to come up with a plan in combat to outsmart someone. I was just showing examples of how Johnny can outsmart people leagues above him in terms of intelligence. He has shown more times to come up with plans to save the city and even the planet than outsmarting geniuses.It seems that the video was blocked in my country too...
Also, it's one thing to trick a genius with a plan, another is combat skill.
Also I would see Ruby useing her electrical dust earlier then test pulling out a last resort move
Johnny will realize he's at a disadvantage when Ruby's using her Semblance and Dust, and he'll start using his most powerful hax to try and take the W. Johnny seeing that he has no other counter for Ruby's increase in power and Sniper Rifle will start using his most powerful hax. Either that, or Ruby uses Lightning Dust to finish him off.In the very beginning of the fight, Johnny has the advantage.
When Ruby uses her semblance and dust is when she has the upper hand.
Then Johnny uses his most powerful hax to win or Ruby uses her lightning dust to secure the win.
This can literally go either way. Which is why I go for Incon.
Get ready for an essay, y'all.The video doesn't work for me... And I would like a written explanation
Wouldn't she use her Ice and Fire Dust first in character? I don't think it's in character for her to paralyze someone off the bat, especially an 11 year old boy.I honestly ruby would use her lightning dust to snipe him because test has no idea they are special aoe bullets
"State of mind: In character, but willing to kill. The characters will employ their usual battle strategies, including flaws such as being casual, however, must be willing to kill the opponent even if they usually won't."Well SBA assume they are willing to win even if it's OOC
Also he has been frozen before multiple times and he only broke free via Johnny X or someone else helping him