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RECORDS OF RAGNAROK MINOR REVISION

What are the conclusions here so far?
 
TypeOU said:
From what I understand Zeus should be nerfed and the justification text should be changed. His "fist that surpasses time" is a special move so it shouldn't apply to his regular combat speed, which should instead come from the divine axe calc, so only FTL. His profile also mentions that he can casually do it when it's actually a serious combo



Adam speed should also get the same treatment according to him since he could only dodge and copy the fist that surpassed time thanks to his eyes. It would look like that:



btw I agree on the zeus part but adam should probably get unknown instead of at least FTL, since reacting to Zeus was also an effect of his eyes
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This makes sense, however, I disagree with unknown

Adam ratings are 100% due Eyes of Lord, so, it being FTL, MFTL+ possibly Infinite with Eyes of Lord should work, as his speed ratings were exactly due Eyes of Lord copying Zeus speed and strength
 
Theendzero13 said:
Honestly i think things like possible or likely are kinda unnecessary since people are going to do vs matches using the highest end anyway, we should find the most accurate value and roll with it TBH
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Well... Probably needs an accurate blunt statement kinda is but 🤷‍♂️ tho some verses don't even need that
 
Pain_to12 said:
Good now that we are on the same page, Zeus speed should be downgraded to FTL and should have massively FTL+ possibly infinite with punch that surpassed time, with only Adam scaling to it in reaction as he is the only one shown to have dodged it, even zeus could not dodge it. The justification for their speed is wrong

First the punch was not a casual punch it was an attack and a one time attack.
And zeus reaction has no feat scaling to this just Adam with the eyes of the lord as the eyes allows him to dodge and copy any attack so it is an hax but still it scales to his own reaction and not once did zeus hit Adam and neither was he able to dodge Adam once, so I propose zeus rating be changed to this

Although the casually in the link will be removed. So what do you think, if scans are needed I will provide them zeus did not hit Adam once until Adam went blind and zeus himself could not dodge the punch either from chronos or Adam. So the only one to scale will be Adam

Adam will be changed to at least FTL, and he will have at least MFTL+ likely infinite with eyes of God, as it allows him to see, avoid and copy any attack. Then he also get at least mftl+ possibly infinite attack speed with punch that surpassed time.
And adamas zeus is not mftl or infinite speed (as literally everyone in the pavilion could see the fight of dramas zeus) so the justification will be removed.
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I suppose this makes sense
 
Okay. Thank you for the evaluation.
 
Thank you. It can probably be applied then.
 
The speed has been like that since the Adam page was created.
 
 
Someone should change the current speed tiers to the one above I am currently on mobile I can't help with that
 
Is somebody willing to help out with that please?
 
Thank you. As far as I have understood, other RoR characters than Adam and Zeus do not scale to this though, and should be downgraded in speed.
 
Antvasima said:
Thank you. As far as I have understood, other RoR characters than Adam and Zeus do not scale to this though, and should be downgraded in speed.
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Yes this has been handled already so it is okay just zeus and Adam are the ones left
 
Okay. Thank you for helping out.
 
Wait.

The other RoR characters do not seem to have been updated.

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Heracles (Record of Ragnarok)

Heracles is the Gods' representative in the fourth round of Ragnarok, going against Jack the Ripper. Heracles is a prominent deity in the Greek Pantheon, being the God of Fortitude. He is also one of the few divine beings, along with Buddha and the Valkyries, who are not in favor of ending...
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Antvasima said:
Wait.

The other RoR characters do not seem to have been updated.

vsbattles.fandom.com

Heracles (Record of Ragnarok)

Heracles is the Gods' representative in the fourth round of Ragnarok, going against Jack the Ripper. Heracles is a prominent deity in the Greek Pantheon, being the God of Fortitude. He is also one of the few divine beings, along with Buddha and the Valkyries, who are not in favor of ending...
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I missed that,
This would be his new rating

Average Human | At least FTL (Capable of fighting Ares who can perceive this) | At least FTL (Faster than before)




If someone can help with this
 
Is anybody here willing to help out please?
 
I would appreciate further help here.

Which knowledgeable members have commented here previously? So I can send them a notification.
 
Also, what still needs to be done here?
 
Ah yes

About this

Pain_to12 said:
Infinite with the First that Surpassed Time (The Fist that Surpassed Time went 1e-20 (0.00000000000000000000 seconds) before we could see the timeframe finish and seemingly surpassed time, enough to blitz Ares, who casually saw the previous attack)
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It's actually have timeframe right? Still count as Infinite speed feats?

But i actually kinda agree
I think, the "time stop" visual that we can see in anime and manga, add evidence that Zeus' fist really moves in 0 seconds
 
Heracles downgrade was pretty obvious , he's just kind of a special case because of his human key so it's easy to miss him
 
Antvasima said:
Which knowledgeable members have commented here previously? So I can send them a notification.
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Experienced members in general are fine to list.
 
Never mind.

Is somebody who knows how to edit properly willing to apply what has been accepted here?
 
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