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Record of Ragnarok Revision

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From the previous battles we get hints how the match will end the only thing Heracles is afraid of is losing his sense of justice which he already has lost for who knows how long his win could contribute to billions of deaths can that really be considered justice? If he were to find out his sister was dragged to the battle against her will can he really kill her would that be just? Heracles has a will that even the gods couldn't break but what if Jack can what if he breaks that will just what would that say about mankind? After Jack remembered about his past and after comparing Heracles to his mother I'm not sure if Jack is in thee right mind set to play mind games right now. Heracles lost a arm he's bleeding everywhere and that mark is spreading rapidly and has almost consumed his body even with that will I doubt he's going to last that long he's on a time limit while on the other hand Jack has received some internal damage but it's not much. Something tells me this win will go the the humans so the gods pride gets knocked down a peg.
 
HajimexYue forever said:
To be honest I was kinda hurt when no one listened to me about Volond possibly being soul manipulation.
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lol you were the guy that said they have no soul manipulation
 
Actually I said Volond may be the fusion of body/soul and may be a type of soul manipulation but then you guys said no and talked me out of it. After that I couldn't see why the humans would have soul manipulation so I said they didn't have soul manipulation because they haven't demonstrated any type other than that.
 
Nah that's due to the Valkerie it was a forced Volond in order to achieve that a person and valkerie must match wavelengths and merge body and soul although in his case he subdued her through fear.
 
HajimexYue forever said:
That doesn't really seem like a interesting match after looking at the other guys profile I can't see him so much as scratching Kujiro.
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So far, they're even in skill. Hayato's animal style is better, they can both stop a spill of drink in a similar fashion, they both have abilities to dodge people faster, Sasaki's ability to maneuver around something like a danmaku Blitz is better, and right now we are discussing Sasaki's Tsubame Gaeshi vs any ability Hayato has that is similar
 
How can he even hit Kujiro? Kujiro Sasaki can see 5,000+ different moves his opponent will make in a fraction of a second he can sense the air flow tumbles in the ground etc does the guy have any counter to that kinda sensory abilities and precognition?
 
HajimexYue forever said:
How can he even hit Kujiro? Kujiro Sasaki can see 5,000+ different moves his opponent will make in a fraction of a second he can sense the air flow tumbles in the ground etc does the guy have any counter to that kinda sensory abilities and precognition?
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We haven't discussed Hayato's offensive options yet, but it will be discussed soon
 
We really shouldn't be talking about vs thread here, especially since we need to get the scaling done first. The Top Tier gods such as Zeus, Poseidon and Thor still need a definite tier.
 
I'm fine with Thor but I don't think Zeus is anywhere near universal level were kinda lacking information on Zeus and Poesidon so it's hard to make profiles for them. We can get speed abilities lifting strength but the rest seems kinda unknown.
 
We can certainly make profiles for Zeus and Poseidon as they have more than enough information for profiles. The profiles would actually be relatively straightforward with them being above Thor who should be Low 5-B to 5-B. Poseidon and Zeus would naturally scale above Thor, Zeus would get a "Likely far higher." in all his stats while in Addamas form while Poseidon would get an at least before his tier.


Speed is already settled iirc, Adam and Zeus have several MFTL feats along with the possibility of Adam having infinite perception speeds for functioning in stopped time.
 
The Prince of Counters said:
We can certainly make profiles for Zeus and Poseidon as they have more than enough information for profiles. The profiles would actually be relatively straightforward with them being above Thor who should be Low 5-B to 5-B. Poseidon and Zeus would naturally scale above Thor, Zeus would get a "Likely far higher." in all his stats while in Addamas form while Poseidon would get an at least before his tier.


Speed is already settled iirc, Adam and Zeus have several MFTL feats along with the possibility of Adam having infinite perception speeds for functioning in stopped time.
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Bruh that's exactly what I was thinking, I agree 100%
 
We have enough info for Thor,Lu Bu, Jack the Ripper, Heracles, and Kujiro Sasaki. Personally I believe Adam and Zeus's profiles need to be rewritten from scratch. I'm fine with Thor being High-6A but Zeus is most likely nowhere near the level his profile says he is I thinking scaling him to Thor is fine and then a possibly higher though.
 
Shattering the Earth is low 5-B to 5-B, not High 6-A. I believe low 2-C Zeus comes from the Big Bang statement but from what I remember it's never stated that he tanked it, just remembers it. He'll have some nice hax however since he's able to interact with Abstracts like his Father.
 
So just a thought what if shatter the earths just refers to doing major damage to the continent or planet but not actually destroying it? That blow rivaled sky eater so I don't think it was powerful enough to destroy the planet. Was his father really abstract? It kinda seems like he was just a normal guy like the other gods except with some possible time manipulation powers.
 
False thought, Thor's hammer is directly stated to be able to shatter the Earth apart, not just a singular continent. Also the attack didn't rival Sky Eater, it effortlessly overpowered Sky Eater and destroyed Lu Bu's body in one go. Chronos is stated to be the personification of Time itself.
 
Your right it was slightly stronger than Sky eater. Also I really don't think that blow is capable of destroying the planet since it was the combination of Thor's two most powerful attacks which didn't display anything near that level of power. Where did it say Chronos is the personification of time? If I remember correctly it was said that Chronos was the god of time.
 
Well Jack the Ripper is supposed to be the personification of Malice of mankind so I'm not really sure if they statement means much it just seems like a heavy exaggeration. Thor's attack didn't ignore Sky eater during the clash Lu Bu's body started to fall apart because it couldn't withstand the clash because unlike Thor he's a human honestly i think Thor won that fight due to having a god body the only way a human can harm a god as far as we know aside from Adam is is a mirror of the gods himself is Volond meaning that the shockwaves/impact from the blow couldn't harm Thor at all while Li Bu got ripped to pieces. Also please don't bring dbz into this that verse is probably the most inconsistent with it comes to power scaling out of all the series out there Goku has lost to people weaker than planet busters despite having higher forms.
 
Lu Bu's body fell apart because of the overwhelming strength advantage of Thor's hammer in comparison to his Sky Eater, and yes, Thor's Hammer absolutely ignored Sky Eater's own AP. The strength of Lu Bu's Sky Eater was completely mitigated by Thor's Hammer, and Thor's Hammer proceeded to mutilate Lu Bu's body. Your throwing "I think _" around a lot, I could honestly care less what you think. We know for a fact Thor's Hammer was significantly stronger than Lu Bu's Sky Eater, Sky Eater didn't absolutely no damage to Thor, Thor's Hammer overpowered Sky Eater, destroyed Sky Piercer and destroyed Lu Bu's body. Your Jack comparison falls flat as well, that's an Alias for Jack, for Cronus it's legit and it's even like that in Greek Mythology.
 
That's fine if you don't care what my opinion is then you can just ignore what I say and I'll ignore what you have to say I'll talk with people who are willing to have a civilized nice conversation with me about this series like PowerToScale.
 
After reading the most recent chapters, I honestly feel like we should wait to make a profile for Jack until the fight is completely finished because his currently running Volund description might very well also be a complete lie.

But anyway, when I saw jack the Ripper, Fate has warped my expectations of these figures so much that i genuinely got a rush when Jack basically had Knight of Owner instead of something that I would normally expect from someone like him lol
 
I'm pretty sure the gloves are his true Volond we saw the Valkerie become his gloves after all and Brunhilde herself confirmed the Valkerie's ability although she's a psychopath and a cold hearted woman who's sick in the head she doesn't lie while talking about the matches. Do you think Jack or Hercules will win? Both of them have death flags and Heracles is down a arm but that willpower is no joke humans can pull of some crazy stuff with strong willpower in manga like Whitebeard Adam etc. I think Heracles may win but Jack will force him to abandon his sense of justice and take the moral win.
 
The Prince of Counters said:
Shattering the Earth is low 5-B to 5-B, not High 6-A.
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It can be 5-B, if it shattered the earth beyond its GBE. I originslly had him at "At least High 6-A, possibly 5-B" but people believed its was best for him to be High 6-A
 
And shattering the earth without surpassing it's GBE is low 5-B, small planet level, not 5-B and not High 6-A. Low 5-B would be objectively the most correct rating for Thor.
 
We should wait until more information about heaven is revealed until discussing soul manipulation for the gods. I'm still against Thor being 5-B due to not showing that feat but at this point I'd just like to see his profile made so I'm not really going to argue with that. Shouldn't his base be lower since only his ultimate move can shatter the earth?
 
Nooo..? Thor's Hammer ( I.E the hammer itself.) was stated to be able to shatter the earth prior to it's awakening. Thor doesn't need to be shown shattering the Earth, that's complete and total asinine.
 
How exactly have I been rude? This is just my tone of speech, I always talk in this manner. Now if you wanna be overly sensitive to a simple comment that's completely on you to be frank, and I'm allowed to reply to any comment I so please.
 
Wow that's your normal tone? You must have hard it really hard in life I kinda pity you. I'm not overreacting by the way your tone is rude and I don't really respond well to those types of people so I decided it was best we didn't talk to each other.
 
Your not allowed to comment as you please by the way there are rules on this site and if you continue to talk like that I honestly wouldn't be surprised if they kicked you off this site. Let's just ignore each other that's for the best.
 
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