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Real life animals CRT

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It's three cheetahs up against an animal that the documentary itself clearly explains is way stronger than them and could kill them if they did not employ stealth and numbers. Two minutes in it says that two wouldn't even be enough to take down an ostrich. This very blatantly should not """scale""", two of them were on its back and it kept running for a while, they all needed to topple it together, and even when deprived of its balance it was still able to kill them.
 
At the near end of the video, one of the cheetahs got kicked by the ostrich and it shrugged it off. Would that scale to its durability?
 
No it wouldn't. There's no "scaling" in real life, people can get ran over by cars without serious injuries and they aren't 9-C, nevermind that it was a weak, glancing blow and the narrator literally says they would die with a good hit.
 
So, is anyone going to make changes to the real world profiles? (I tried to do it myself, but most of them got deleted)
 
Don't make them without asking here first. What profiles did you try to change?
 
Tried to change the Coyote from below average human to below average human+ due to how they should be comparable to raccoons. I also put the American Pitbull as athlete to street level seeing as how there are much larger and more powerful breeds of them like Hulk the Pitbull for example.
 
I mean, they weren't deleted automatically, some administrator has rollbacked them. @Antvasima, could you undo your rollback of this page?

That said, thinking about it I do not agree with 9-C Bulldogs, after all this is about the physical energy they can output, which means biting isn't included, and while I have no doubt a large bulldog could overpower your average human, I think 9-C is slightly too generous.
 
I understand what you mean. However, since an average Pitbull is 10-A, wouldn’t this mean that a Pitbull 3 times the weight of average one would be 9-C especially if it’s physically fit?
 
I mean, not necessarily. Honestly, I'd say only fairly large ones are 10-A at all.
 
A fairly large Pitbull would generally weigh around 60 pounds. Hulk the Pitbull for example weighs 3 times more than that. Additionally, they are considered to be very powerful for their size. So, putting them all at just 10-A honestly doesn’t sound right to me unless, of course, we downgrade them.
 
Using Hulk as an example is the equivalent of Paul Anderson for humans. There should be a note for most profiles saying they cover feats by average specimens, and wouldn't use exceptional individuals as an example. Saying a pitbull gets 170+ pounds is like saying a human gets 8 ft tall. Sure, it happens, but don't hold your breath on it.
 
I'd say above average specimens are fine- just not outliers.
 
So, what’s the general consensus on the American Pitbull? Since these dogs vary in size, should we mention variations on the profile?
 
Crocodiles currently have superhuman attack speed for being able to kill zebras before they can react. In reality a crocodile's swim speed is Peak Human and only in short bursts. We should change that.

Also if nobody disagrees I'll go and downgrade Cheetahs
 
Armorchompy said:
Also if nobody disagrees I'll go and downgrade Cheetahs
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With cheetahs, I would personally put them at 10-A to 9-C seeing that they should likely be comparable to chimpanzees as well as the fact that there are large cheetahs that do exist in the wild.
 
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Chimpanzees are not 9-C. And this one is a clear outlier in terms of size which we agreed not to use.
 
Not sure, I kinda forgot a lot of stuff in this
 
Not sure how it would work here, but I had seen a reptile house owner time how long an anaconda can hold its breath underwater for.:


Can be treated as an outlier, but apparently this is a regular occurrence; at least in that particular reptile house. The anaconda currently lacks any sort of stamina/endurance justification otherwise. Of course the way the anaconda accomplishes the task (it was shown sizing up its meal before eating it) is also a factor.
 
It's not really a stamina feat, that's just the way its biology works. It's an animal that spends a lot of time underwater or attempting to eat huge prey, obviously it's going to have to survive without breathing for a lot.
 
I noticed how the Lifting Strength of bears is rather inconsistent on their profiles.

Not accounting the smallest ones with their own peak human (Spectacled Bear) and unknown (Sun Bear), we have the Grizzly, Cave and South American short-faced bears at Class 1, while the Kodiak, Polar and Sloth bears at Class 5 (the latter also seems rather small, or at least not bigger than a Grizzly).
This may extend to other animals, as the Sloth bear scale to the Tiger.

Are these differences correct or something is wrong?
 
It's absolutely wrong about the Sloth bear, let me tell you that much. In fact, tigers are way weaker than Gaur, so their LS is wrong. As for the Class 1 fear of dragging bodies, it should be alright. Class 5 is a bit too imaginative I feel, I think Class 1 would be safer
 
There also seem to be some circular scaling, the polar bear scales to itself and to walruses, which in turn scale to dragging their own bodies (which isn't an accepted form of LS afaik) and fighting other walruses and bears.

Carrying their own bodies is something that other animals have as a "feat", like the Rhinoceros.
 
Dragging is a LS feat, you just gotta divide it by a specific number that represents friction. But yeah LS is really wack in animal profiles, I did fix a lot in the CRT but that was just the tip of the iceberg for IRL profiles
 
I meant just moving themselves, not other members of their own species.

It's something like "They naturally weight X, so this is their lifting strength"
 
Should we upgrade the Arapaima profile? The one that hurt Jeremy wade was a juvenile and it still nearly broke his ribs. They can get up to 10' in length and weigh 440 lbs. They are much stronger than a human being. At least 10-A probably 9-C I'd say.
 
I think only animals that specialize in digging oughta get it, since basically any mammal can dig at least decently.
 
I would appreciate further help with this.
 
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