Can you post It? Because if Reinhard was ready to block it I don't see why It should be the same situatiation with Emilia.
The instant that Reinhardt begins his charge, a black silhouette swoops in from aside. Discordant noise peals out as Reinhardt meets the silhouette’s slash with his hand, held flat and open like a blade. It's stupid. How can he meet a knife swung with that much momentum using his hand? The knife shrieks, shattering to bits. It's stupid. Why is the knife the one breaking?
~Ayamatsu
In this wiki a lot of you guys have this conjecture where you can't pierce characters with normal skin and a far weaker character can't hurt someone way stronger with a weapon.
If character A is as many times stronger than character B as a human is than a fly, then character B should be able to do only as much damage as a fly can to a human. It's not a hard concept to grasp, if they can dish out and take attacks that can easily destoys buildings, a regular person wouldn't be able to do anything to them. And normal skin can't withstand such powerful attacks, it's clearly not normal skin.
I don't know what you think that pointy objects do that make them able to ignore durability to such an extent. The reason why a sword thrust can cut through a human while, say, a punch can't is because the surface area of the sword's edge is way less than that of a punch, which means that the force per square meter is greater, but the kinetic energy that the thrust and the punch carry isn't.
You said that in all Re:zero only in the Pride and Wrath If there are cases of someone way weaker be capable of stabbing or hurting someone way stronger. That's a lie. Even in the main story Subaru could hurt Elsa if he would have got her with the spiked club, but you said that even that is not consistent.
Subaru literally never injured Elsa. You just assume that because a character dodges the attack it means it's because it was a threat to them, when Elsa was just toying with her food. I don't want any
arguments from belief, show me where Subaru injured a character he shouldn't be able to, not where you believe he would have if his attacks connected, which is something that's not even stated or implied.
So we have 3 different proofs of that in 3 different stories, all written by the same author and one of them Is the main one and you're still using your headcannon and classified all of them as inconsistencies.
We also have cases where weaker characters have been unable to scratch stronger ones: Elsa couldn't harm Reinhard in Ayamatsu, Patrasche couldn't harm Garfiel in arc 4, Otto using Al Dona (the highest tier of magic) couldn't harm Garfiel in arc 4. It's literally inconsistent, what do you want?
And not only that, you reported the fact that Ram without mana seems to be as weak as her body suggests. She's still fast enough to dodge, but her physically strength Is clearly well below the strength she usually has.
Yes, but not enough to where she becomes unable to keep up with Garfiel or damage him. Your argument is that a lack of mana strengthening is an explanation as to why Reinhard and Petelgeuse can be damaged by Emilia and Subaru respectively, so I'm showing you that the one time that we know for sure someone ran out of strengthening mana, they were still able to contend with the character they were fighting up to that point, showing that this mana strengthening is not that powerful and that a lack of it is not reason enough as to why one can be killed by a character that cannot typically damage them.
Also, since Ram ran out of mana almost immediately in the fight with Garf, we can assume that she did in her fight with Rai in arc 6 (especially since she was already short on mana because Roswaal wasn't there), yet she was still able to fight just as well and even better than she did against Garfiel.
So I don't understand, are you who decides what is consistent and which is not? Is your way of thinking and your conjecture more important than what happened in the main route and in other 2 routes written by the same person? You know your whole argument Is that these IFs aren't valid because they have stuff similar to other stuff that happened in the main route.
The argument is that these non-canon stories manage to have more inconsitencies than some entire arcs, when they are only 2 or so chapters long each.
Pure swordmanship. So Cecils without his Blue Thunder.
If they are equal in swordmaship, but Cecilus has a few tricks like Blue Thunder that give him an edge, that doesn't mean that Cecilus has superior AP or Durability or Speed compared to Wilhelm. In fact, if they are equal in swordmanship, which is all down to speed, strength, and skill, then they are probably (roughly) equal in the afore listed stats.
Q: If Thearesia had trained with the sword would she have gotten even stronger? Or had she reached the upper limit of strength the moment the Blessing of the Master Swordsman was bestowed?
A: In terms of sword skill, that's the upper limit of strength. However, the more one battles, the more one gains the thing called experience, so I think the "Ability to Respond" could be gained and change her actual strength. In a fight between the truly strong, that's what becomes the bottleneck.
Here your answer.
Yes, it shows that Theresia lacks experience, which is the reason Tappei gave for why she would lose to Cecilus, and not a difference in speed or strength.
Cecils being Reinhard Level Is something confirmed not only in Oboreru.
"Subaru:「Did anyone familiar come to your mind? If you don’t see the real thing you probably won’t be able to imagine him, but he’s with no exaggeration strong as a monster. Maybe around Reinhardt-grade.」
Ram:「A real nightmare, huh.」
Emilia:「Though what Subaru’s saying is no lie. I’ve never seen Reinhardt’s true strength… But, well, I think he was as strong as that.」
Emilia followed up Ram’s words, detailing her thoughts having actually fought the man.
There was no benefit in telling lies here. From her judgement, Ram wearily placed her hand against her forehead, and said,
Ram:「If we put confidence in Barusu and Emilia-sama’s words then our enemy is of the same caliber as the Knight Reinhardt… If as said they truly are equal to the world’s strongest man, then there’s one that’s at least close to his level in every part of the world.」
Subaru:「So essentially Reinhardt is the strongest in the Kingdom and each of the other three countries have their own strongest.」
Ram:「In the Vollachian Empire there’s the First General, the『Blue Lightning』Cecilus Segmunt; in the Holy Kingdom of Gusteko there’s the『Crazed Prince』; and in the Kararagi City States there’s the『Admirer』Halibel. But each have different traits to them.]"
So Cecils is someone with swordmanship equal to that of Wilhelm and Theresia, with much more experience (so with the ability to respond, which is very important against the strongest according to the author) and with Blue Thunder which boosts his speed.
All of this puts him at Reinhard's Level of strength.
You completely ignored my explanation as to why Tappei meant overall strength with the sword and not just skill. You're also ignoring the fact that Tappei specifically said Theresia lacks experience fighting an equal opponent and that's why she loses, which is important because Cecilus is pretty much the same as Reinhard is the only opponent he couldn't just curb stomp.
I'm also not inclined to take Ram on her word when Halibel in the Sloth IF didn't think he could beat Zarestia, who's only Great Spirit level, and most probably weaker than Puck, who Tappei has called a rounding error in comparison to Reinhard. Which is just another case of the IFs contradicting each other. The one time Cecilus made an appearance was in EX 4, all he did was get knocked out by Reinhard because he was ******* around and had an off-screen dual with him at the end. He just hasn't been shown fighting evenly with Reinhard, on screen, in a canon story.
I also don't know when it was stated that Blue Thunder boosts speed, you gotta provide a citation for that one.
Agree, Reid Is on the same tier as Reinhard, and so are Halibel and Cecils as suggested in the IFs and in the arc 6.
What about the Sloth IF that suggests Halibel being only around the level of Great Spirits which are much weaker than Reinhard?
