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Re:Zero kara Hajimeru Isekai Seikatsu Discussion Thread 4 (aka rem: zero)
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He feels heartbroken. Poor Subaru-kun. ;_;
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@Heinkel i see you have made some changes first of all since when could the whale reality warp sizable human settlements? Only pandora can do that, also you forgot to upgrade rem's durability in oni form to building level, also why did you name rem sleeping princess lol, i am removing that could spoil someone on what happens to rem.
Also don't capitalize attack speed or combat speed no one does that, i got to clean up the page a bit.
The mention of the smaller shards of ice and larger ones a bit pointless to add imo as well, just makes the page look messy, also the mention of higher reactions there is no proof for that so again pointless to add.
Also don't capitalize attack speed or combat speed no one does that, i got to clean up the page a bit.
The mention of the smaller shards of ice and larger ones a bit pointless to add imo as well, just makes the page look messy, also the mention of higher reactions there is no proof for that so again pointless to add.
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The size of the column of his Mist of Elimination:
It's far bigger than even two White Whales put together (White whale's own body which is the size of city blocks). I put it likely MCB+
And that's only 2 Whales; All 3 Whales combined would produce bigger columns. So 'likely'
I will go fix Rem.
Zero added the sleeping princess stuff I think
It's far bigger than even two White Whales put together (White whale's own body which is the size of city blocks). I put it likely MCB+
And that's only 2 Whales; All 3 Whales combined would produce bigger columns. So 'likely'
I will go fix Rem.
Zero added the sleeping princess stuff I think
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That's with the mist of elimination though not reality warping so it should be likely higher with mist of elimination.
I was already in the middle of fixing rem don't worry about it.
I was already in the middle of fixing rem don't worry about it.
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You really don't like power scaling or the word likely, do you ._.
Everyone and their mother in RZ except Subaru have higher reactions, even the White Whale or Betelgeuse's Fingers, poor Subsonic Rem qq
I already fixed most of the major ones
Wait, Mist of Elimination was not reality warping?
Should we name it spatial warping then?
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Everyone and their mother in RZ except Subaru have higher reactions, even the White Whale or Betelgeuse's Fingers, poor Subsonic Rem qq
I already fixed most of the major ones
Wait, Mist of Elimination was not reality warping?
Should we name it spatial warping then?
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I prefer explicit proof over assumptions, fine with some assumptions just not too much, especially when we don't have much to base them on.
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Well, Betelgeuse's Fingers exhibit Supersonic reactions from time to time, just not always.
They fought against Wilhelm and Emilia many times already, you know (whose ice shards are Supersonic like Rem's), and keep up just for a while, so I thought it was reasonable enough to power scale.
I'm not saying Rem would become Supersonic, just that it is likely to be 'higher' given the reactions of her peer combatants.
Fix 'reality warping' to Mist of Elimination then for the White Whale. Though, I'm wondering what sort of Manipulation that is, because it's erasing even solid earth.
They fought against Wilhelm and Emilia many times already, you know (whose ice shards are Supersonic like Rem's), and keep up just for a while, so I thought it was reasonable enough to power scale.
I'm not saying Rem would become Supersonic, just that it is likely to be 'higher' given the reactions of her peer combatants.
Fix 'reality warping' to Mist of Elimination then for the White Whale. Though, I'm wondering what sort of Manipulation that is, because it's erasing even solid earth.
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Pegasus i swear if you touch my edit again ! <<<< JK
Sleeping princess is what everyone call her arc5+ and the author as well i asked the admin on wiki he said it must be added but the page i locked and since when we worry about spoilers on this wiki ? Meh it's very minor thing i don't want to complain xD i just though it may be nice touch
Heinkel always love scale while Pegasus obviously hate it lol
Sleeping princess is what everyone call her arc5+ and the author as well i asked the admin on wiki he said it must be added but the page i locked and since when we worry about spoilers on this wiki ? Meh it's very minor thing i don't want to complain xD i just though it may be nice touch
Heinkel always love scale while Pegasus obviously hate it lol
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The more I scale, the less calc I must do, the preference is obvious.
Pegasus just loves to be a slave driving overlord, fufu
I might have to run another calc for Julius' Fail Goa fire tornado to get my City Block Julius...
Pegasus just loves to be a slave driving overlord, fufu
I might have to run another calc for Julius' Fail Goa fire tornado to get my City Block Julius...
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@Heinkel No the mist of elimation isn't reality warping it just erases people's memories and anything related to them from existence, so it's more like history manipulation.
@Zero Well we try to not have too much spoilers on the wiki yea clearly if you look at the page you are bound to have spoilers but it doesn't mean we should give hints towards rem being comatose...
@Zero Well we try to not have too much spoilers on the wiki yea clearly if you look at the page you are bound to have spoilers but it doesn't mean we should give hints towards rem being comatose...
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So after looking up what the whales power could be i think it is temporal erasure.
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They aren't reality warpers only pandora can do stuff like that, it's just history manipulation.
Official design for frederica is out, apparently we will be getting more for other characters as well, can't wait to see garfiel, or sehkment or minerva.
Official design for frederica is out, apparently we will be getting more for other characters as well, can't wait to see garfiel, or sehkment or minerva.
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I think we might get a LN cover with all of them on it when we get more into the tea party, i need that official satella design.
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Part 3 of chapter 2 is out, subaru really has a complex over anyone touching rem.
"Rem wrote the letter. I was the one who asked it to be delivered, and Crusch was the one who gave it to the messenger, so the reality of it being handed over remained, and only the contents were erased"
"That is the Authority of "Gluttony", and the fate of those whose name and memories were eaten. An existence erased from the world, leaving only a complex web of incongruities behind. If you weren't aware of it, you'd never feel the unease, you'd never even realize anything had been missing. "
So just confirming what i have been saying it's not just memories anyone erased by gluttony has everything related to them erased. So while for instance other people would still know someone wrote the letter they woudn't know who or know why it is blank. Same thing with ram not being able to handle the house work it is because rem no longer exists but they don't know that, they have new memories to explain how it was being done before.
"Rem wrote the letter. I was the one who asked it to be delivered, and Crusch was the one who gave it to the messenger, so the reality of it being handed over remained, and only the contents were erased"
"That is the Authority of "Gluttony", and the fate of those whose name and memories were eaten. An existence erased from the world, leaving only a complex web of incongruities behind. If you weren't aware of it, you'd never feel the unease, you'd never even realize anything had been missing. "
So just confirming what i have been saying it's not just memories anyone erased by gluttony has everything related to them erased. So while for instance other people would still know someone wrote the letter they woudn't know who or know why it is blank. Same thing with ram not being able to handle the house work it is because rem no longer exists but they don't know that, they have new memories to explain how it was being done before.
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Subaru is either ****** in the head of he just faking , the fact he got triggered the moment otto mention Rem even though he was chilling two moments ago and said he get over it prove he overcome nothing
"anyone who tries to touch Rem seems like enemy to him"
Man this is really creepy
Yeah we already have confirmed that ley erase everything relate to the person's it doesn't stop at memories but he isn't really changing the reality itself so no WR
"anyone who tries to touch Rem seems like enemy to him"
Man this is really creepy
Yeah we already have confirmed that ley erase everything relate to the person's it doesn't stop at memories but he isn't really changing the reality itself so no WR
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Pretty sure he isn't faking it and is just messed up in the head, i would be surprised if he wasn't messed up in the head he was almost to that point back in arc 3 but rem pulled him out and the rem got erased from existence so that's got to mess with his mind.
As i said the whale has history manipulation, only RW in re zero is pandora for now that is who knows what satella is capable of.
As i said the whale has history manipulation, only RW in re zero is pandora for now that is who knows what satella is capable of.
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He did so it's not just memory manipulation it's history manipulation, it always surprises me how broken these guys are and they aren't even top tier. It just gets me wondering what flugel and the dragon can do if mid tiers are this broken.
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BTW was it ever mention before that the one who wrote the latter was Rem and not him ? i felt little weird there PLUS isn't really easy to figure out there something wrong the moment Ram did not mention Rem the moment she saw him with her sister-complex ? he didn't notice small details because he didn't want to talk about Rem in the first place for some reasons
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He said rem was the one who wrote it he didn't write it himself cause he isn't stupid enough to send a blank letter and the witch cult woudn't go through the trouble of sending a blank letter when they could just chane it's contents.
Subaru didn't talk about rem after she left until the who is rem scene so he didn't know she had been erased which is why he feels like crap cause he didn't notice something was wrong sooner.
Subaru didn't talk about rem after she left until the who is rem scene so he didn't know she had been erased which is why he feels like crap cause he didn't notice something was wrong sooner.
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He never said Rem the one who write it tho or people would asked him who is Rem
he thought the witch cult captured the letter and sended blank one instead to create some choose between the two camp but it's stupid when you think about it actually , they didn't know about subaru troops coming to attack then until the very last moment , if they would want to create chaos wouldn't be better if they changed the details of the letter instead ?
it's really weird no one mention Rem at all even her own sister and you know Rem would be ask about Ram before everything, he didn't want to talk about rem , according to the translate it will be explained next part
he thought the witch cult captured the letter and sended blank one instead to create some choose between the two camp but it's stupid when you think about it actually , they didn't know about subaru troops coming to attack then until the very last moment , if they would want to create chaos wouldn't be better if they changed the details of the letter instead ?
it's really weird no one mention Rem at all even her own sister and you know Rem would be ask about Ram before everything, he didn't want to talk about rem , according to the translate it will be explained next part
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https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Talk:Puck
We have to bump up the Original White Whale to Tier 7-C by scaling to his Durability, or we have to bump down Puck and Reinhard to his level.
As I pointed out in that conversation, I am in favor of 7-C upgrade. The tree's energy he can withstand is up to 8.88 kilotons, which is quite higher than Town level's 5.8 kilotons. Also, he only got killed because the tree continued to push down on him, pinning him to the ground, and Wilhelm had to deliver the killing blow.
If the White Whale was whole and wasn't under those very specific conditions, whereby he sustained the same damage for an extended period of time, and then got sliced up by Wilhelm, I'm pretty sure he can survive Town level collisions by direct impact, otherwise killing anyone who does not have Town level durability during the impact.
TL;DR the White Whale can exert Town level blunt force (AP) by direct impact with his body, as he was shown many times trying to do (starting first with Wilhelm in the early minutes of Episode 20), and survive it with light to moderate wounds. So I believe he can receive the upgrade to 7-C physically.
We have to bump up the Original White Whale to Tier 7-C by scaling to his Durability, or we have to bump down Puck and Reinhard to his level.
As I pointed out in that conversation, I am in favor of 7-C upgrade. The tree's energy he can withstand is up to 8.88 kilotons, which is quite higher than Town level's 5.8 kilotons. Also, he only got killed because the tree continued to push down on him, pinning him to the ground, and Wilhelm had to deliver the killing blow.
If the White Whale was whole and wasn't under those very specific conditions, whereby he sustained the same damage for an extended period of time, and then got sliced up by Wilhelm, I'm pretty sure he can survive Town level collisions by direct impact, otherwise killing anyone who does not have Town level durability during the impact.
TL;DR the White Whale can exert Town level blunt force (AP) by direct impact with his body, as he was shown many times trying to do (starting first with Wilhelm in the early minutes of Episode 20), and survive it with light to moderate wounds. So I believe he can receive the upgrade to 7-C physically.
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@Heinkel So we should bump the white whale's ap to town level? What did you mean by bumping reinhard and puck down the whale is town level.? I am fine with town level whale physically
@Zero Weird that they released sphinx design she isn't even in arc 4, hype for garfiel design.
@Zero Weird that they released sphinx design she isn't even in arc 4, hype for garfiel design.
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Well Lina pointed out that it would look a bit odd for Puck/Reinhard to be 7-C Tier for defeating an 8-A Tier combatant, which I guess is how it would seem to people who see the profile for the first time.
That's probably why AP is scaled from Durability for most physical/kinetic combatants. Anyway, I will perform the upgrade then.
That's probably why AP is scaled from Durability for most physical/kinetic combatants. Anyway, I will perform the upgrade then.
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Btw shouldn't sphinx have type 1 immortality, aren't all the lewis like 110 actually but only look like 12 year olds?
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Depends on how long? MCBs can endure being submerged in the Sun's core for 1 second.
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An important question recently came to my mind:
During the Emilia MCB ice scene, Julius was slapping Shaula's needles down with his sword to intercept them.
So the question is, is Reid slapping down the needles too before they reach his body? Like Reinhard does against other combatants? If he is using his sword hand for this, then I think it would scale to both combat and reaction speeds since he can exert the same speed when swinging at someone.
Many chars have the same combat and reaction speed in this manner. Most notably the Kryptonians in MoS
During the Emilia MCB ice scene, Julius was slapping Shaula's needles down with his sword to intercept them.
So the question is, is Reid slapping down the needles too before they reach his body? Like Reinhard does against other combatants? If he is using his sword hand for this, then I think it would scale to both combat and reaction speeds since he can exert the same speed when swinging at someone.
Many chars have the same combat and reaction speed in this manner. Most notably the Kryptonians in MoS
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