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Quite Big Important Isekai Mahou Revisions

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Basically a proper re-make of the whole verse. Link if you wanna take a look at current state of profiles.

Ap Changes​

The lower tiers of the verse, those who are considerably below base Suimei in power should scale to mage felmenia vaping a boulder, which is Multi City Block level+ level


Mid Tiers, those on par with base suimei on power should be scaled to Suimei vaping a crater into the ground Low 7-C+ and Lefille 7-C+


Normal Magicka from mid tiers using savage names to boost its potency results in something like Felmenia’s massive flame which is High 7-C


The Mid-Tier’s grand scale magicka scale to Suimei’s sky blade which is High 7-C]


Grand-Scale+Savage names would probably be deserving of a likely higher rating.


Felmenia with her magicka furnace is a relatively weaker magician to suimei using his and scales by her lonesome to her plasma cloud creation feat which is 7-A.


High-Tiers on par with Suimei using his magicka furnace scale to Rajas who cleared the region with a single AoE attack and resulted in High 7-A power along Suimei making icebergs which resulted in the same tier


Eanru completely outclasses Suimei at his full power in raw durability and power, basically putting in a near death state with any hit if it wasn’t for Suimei’s regen and tanked a massive explosion which resulted in 6-C by wiping a huge forest off the map. Only scales to Eanru and Suimei using the technique.


Grand-Scale magicka of the high tiers scale to Suimei is using his magicka furnace scales to Suimei’s use of grand scale magicka which resulted in 6-C energy


Upon returning to his world and the magicka got a boost the true power of grand-scale magicka of high tiers scales to Suimei’s use of it which resulted in 6-C rating


Speed changes​

In the verse we basically have confirmation that magic is the speed the element represents, as it is literally derived from the concept of the element itself, unless the user actively takes charge of it at which point the magic will become reliant on the speed of user. Many characters such as Suimei and Felmenia have reacted to light attacks to block them or prepare themselves for them and if light was fired at less than the universal constant it would create a spatial rewind as it did here, there is also a point at which Lilliana reacts to a water bullet that moved faster than the light produced by the mana circle could reach the eyes of the spectators, thus all characters should scale to FTL.


Dimensional Shenanigans​

"The World" in the Isekai Mahou series does not normally refer to the physical space of the universe, rather it refers to the infinite number of universes that come to be from the literal infinite number of possibilities and combinations in parallel worlds that co-exist with one another in the image of one "master world", or in other words the base for their original existence. For every "what if", "something that happened", every changed mind, every desire, ect... an entire new parallel world is given birth to.


However, it is noted that the scope of the world goes far beyond that. The world also contains a similar but distinct phenomena from parallel worlds which is the existence of countless separate worlds. Worlds that are given birth to not by different possibilities of a "master world" as they are distinct to it from the beginning but in way they are also counterfeits. These separate worlds exist across the astral plane of existence which in turn is outside the sets of parallel worlds, and are hinted towards also having their own set of infinite parallel worlds deriving from infinite possibilities. That is enough to put the cosmology at greater than normal 2-A+.


However, the scope goes a bit beyond that as there are several higher planes to the verse, for instance the astral plane. The astral plane is a plane of existence that completely transcends the world and its inhabitants (spirits and gods) are merely platonic concepts given a will by belief. It is a space that merely exists conceptually and holds no real substance but is merely a morphing space without form, its both a both the darkest pitch of black and the most blinding light at the same time while also being either depending entirely on the person observing it. If the person thought it was pitch black then it was so, if the person thought it was blindingly light then it was so. If the person desired to see an object or emptiness it will be so, for the astral plane contains all of creation at once on a conceptual way as it transcends the conventional world. These divine existences that inhabit it are noted to be higher-dimensional and the thing that limits them is that the world has its own will and rejects their existence as they can easily pose a threat to the world and control all of creation from it.


Beyond this plane only exists two things,the source and the akashic records. The source transcends everything there is and is the source of everything as well as where everything will return to, including the platonic concepts that shape the world. The Akashic records similarly exist outside of these two planes and are on par with the source and are both widely considered as transcendental “omnipotent”, one which holds all of what has, will and has been and the other one which is the source and end of everything.


TL;DR: Infinite set of multiverses that are then transcended by the astral plane which in turn is transcended by the akashic records. I am pretty sure the end result is low 1-C for akashic records and the source but not sure on the astral plane. The different levels affect different potencies for abilities and characters.


Abilities Affected Include:


Abedaq Ad Habra: Existence erasure on the level of the astral plane
The dimensionality of the concepts used: Dependent on the astral plane
Suimei’s charm protection: Dependent on astral plane
Dark Magic: As a raw concept and capable of piercing Suimei’s charm protection it is reliant on the astral plane too, and Liliana0s resistance to it.
Rank Disparity Extinction: Capable of shutting down dark magic so it is reliant on the astral plane.
The heroes blessings: The resistances granted to them might not scale but to power null their abilities you’d need something to power null the blessings of a divine which scales to the astral plane.
Suimei’s fate manipulation: Scales to the source.

General Abilities to be added​

-Intangible Attacks (Mystical substances are different from physical substances and as such cannot be defended against using only conventional physical means); Applicable to all those who use mysteries


-Non-Physical Interaction (Can interact with the mystical) Applicable to all those who use mysteries


-Conceptual Manipulation (Type 2; Magic calls upon the power of the wide concept known as the elements and borrows smaller conceptual attributes from it to function); Applicable to all mages


-Conceptual manipulation is type two as the idea of concepts on the verse is quite literally explained with plato’s theory of forms


-Conceptual Manipulation (Type 2; Magicka uses a conceptual approach to manifesting phenomena rather than a physical one); Applicable to all magicians.


-Technology Manipulation, Law Manipulation (A body which is steeped in mysteries has an adverse effect on physical-laws which causes things that rely on them to malfunction); For all those who use high class mysteries such as spirits and magicians


-Aura that Fear/Paralysis/Law Manipulation/Power Null (A magician's aura can induce pressure on the psyche. Can cause the opponents to become paralyzed to the point at which their muscles nearly begin convulsing, experience an overwhelming physical pressure that impedes physical movement, induce fear and knocks out their opponents just because he wills it as well as become incapable of activating attacks on his surroundings as they triggers a universal law that shuts down their ability to do so.) For all magicians.


-Glyph Creation (They just create magic circles in the air to speed up their use of magic) to all magicians.


-Probability Manipulation (Phenomena Mixer alters the natural flow of all possible events to make them unstable in order to backfire magicka or preventing it from manifesting in the first place); Applies to Suimei and Lilliana and those who know dark magic.


-Aura ( fighting spirit alone could cut down the enemy); for all those who use fighting spirit such as swordsman


- Fear Manipulation (Fighting spirit can completely coward the opponent or even cause them to instinctually retreat and evade confrontation even if they lack the instincts of a fighter); for all those who use fighting spirit such as swordsman


-Paralysis Inducement (Fighting spirit is capable of paralyzing those under its influence); for all those who use fighting spirit such as swordsman


-Analytical Prediction (A swordswoman that is high-caliber should be able to track down the trajectory of an invisible sword despite a hyper-realistic illusion decoy that becomes more attention grabbing the better the senses of the opponent); Scales to swordsman on the skill level of the seven swords or above.


-Extrasensory Perception (Can sense the spirit of others which includes their emotions and intentions); Applies to all swordsman
-Regeneration (Mid-Low Can heal from several deep wounds thanks to the blessing of the goddess); Applies to all heroes


-Conceptual Manipulation (Type 2), Magic (The hero summoning ritual grants her protection by a power of a higher-order than magic.); Applicable to all heroes


-Mind Manipulation, Soul Manipulation (Heroes being protected from dark magic); Applied to all heroes


-Madness Manipulation (Type 3; Heroes can be exposed to the resentment of the world akin to a sinister being without going insane); Applicable to all heroes


-Possession (Those with divine protection have resistance towards being possessed); Applicable to all heroes


-Power Nullification (By extending her aura mages can obstruct the activation of magic); Applicable to all mages


-Law Manipulation (Can use mysteries working under different laws from the ones of the world); Applicable to all those who use mysteries


-Precognition (A swordsman of Titania's caliber develops clairvoyance); Applicable to all those who are on the level of swordsmanship of the seven swords or above


General Resistances​

-Resistance to Magic (To even touch upon a mystery one must have a certain degree of resistance towards it; his body which has been reinforced by the mysteries has become resistant to lower-class mysteries) Applies to all magicians and mages
-Resistance to Conceptual Manipulation (Type 2; Magic and Magicka are conceptual in nature rather than following the conventional notions of the physical world); Applies to all magicians and mages
-Resistance to Aura (Magicians aura's counteract that of others as allowing another person to have control of the area would be a fatal advantage)
-Resistance to Perception Manipulation (Magicians are not affected by concealment magicka which causes others to subconsciously ignore the user's existance even if they see them); Applies to all magicians
-Resistance to Law Manipulation, Power Nullification (High-degree mysteries are not affected by the law of rank disparity extinction; even if the laws of the world are different from the one's magicka/magic operates under they are capable of manifesting it)
-Resistance to Curse Manipulation (Magicians Should have a natural resistance towards curses); Applies to all magicians
-Resistance to Death Manipulation (Magicians can take death inducing magical drugs) Applies to all magicians


Yakagi Suimei ability additions​

- Genius Intelligence ( Considered genuine genius who he could overcome to prove his worth by a being who is supposed to stand atop the intellectual pyramid of beings)
-Preparation (Allows him to come up with opposing ideas that certain magickas have that would triumph over others or strengthen them just because of the idea they represent)
- Automatic Translation (Spell that allows him to understand the other world’s language)
-Enhanced Senses (All of his senses are naturally ten times as good as normal person's; can enhance his senses further with magicka
-Information Analysis (capable of using magicka to analyze his surroundings and the compositions of spells or curses. He is also capable of grasping the effects a spell is trying to manifest and the magnitude at which they are gonna manifest. His magician eyes are capable of rapidly discerning openings within the opponent’s defense)
- Power Mimicry (After understanding a phenomena he can use it to his advantage such as the greed of ten's ability to manifest his true power on the other world, Felmenia's truth flare or Liliana's dark magic)
-Skilled Swordsman (Has mastery over “normal” swordsmanship techniques)
- Martial Arts (Put the best martial artist of a country to shame as he beat him on his own game)
-Weapon Creation (Via mercurial weapons)
-Stealth Mastery (Capable of erasing his presence and killing any excess noises)
-Memory Manipulation (Can erase, alter, and implant new the memories to others)
-Telepathy (Can communicate to other’s minds directly)
-Time Stop (The defenses of his fortress stagnate time)
-Limited Time Manipulation
-Regeneration (At least Low-Mid via automatic healing, Mid-High via body control; As long as his mind remains, even in a vague state, after turning into gas he can reform his physical body)
-Healing (His healing magicka automatically activates to heal him after taking damage, but rather than healing it reverses the state of objects to their previous state; capable of healing damage to his astral body on the same level)
-Gravity Manipulation (Can increase gravity up to threefold or release it)
-Explosion Manipulation (Can cause explosions by snapping his fingers or pressurizing the atmospheric aetheric)
-Invisibility (Capable of cloaking himself, attacking with countless invisible slashes, and "hiding a truth" of the world in order to conceal something)
-Conceptual Manipulation (Type 2; Magicka is conceptual in nature, not relying in conventional physical notions to function. Can kill apparitions, conceptual existences, which are a law of the world which accelerates the end of the world. Killed the embodiment of the world's malice, and can also manipulate higher-order concepts.)
- Information Manipulation (Kabbalah numerology uses imaginary numbers and equations combined with mana to manifest any phenomena in the world as long as Suimei knows the numbers and equations)
-Willpower Manipulation (He can exert his willpower to knock out everyone on the area, he also has an unbreakable will)
-Aura (Can cause the opponents to become paralyzed to the point at which their muscles nearly begin convulsing, experience an overwhelming physical pressure that impedes physical movement, be frozen to the soul, induce fear and knocks out his opponents just because he wills it as well as become incapable of activating attacks on his surroundings as he triggers a universal law that shuts down their ability to do so. While on Archiatius Overload it causes Mansfield vibration which causes space to be distorted as if it was being torn apart which leads to the destruction of objects)
- Void Manipulation (Type 3 & 4; Kabbalah numerology allows for him to weave numbers that do not exist in the world to create anything, even a place that does not exist)
-Death Manipulation (Those who break the deals on his magickal contracts die or he can simply destroy the contract and the one affected will die)
-Vibration Manipulation (Can use a ripple of etheric to destroy things he comes into contact with)
-Telekinesis (Can hurl objects around with some gestures)
-limited Reality Warping (High level enough magicians, like Suimei, can cause phenomena to appear with their imagination)
-Homing Attack (he can make his attacks follow after the opponent)
- Statistics Amplification (via Archiatius Overload and savage names)
-Mind Manipulation (Capable of attacking the astral body, causing others to unconsciously ignore his existence, as well as manipulating the consciousness of others to make them bend to his will)
- Body Puppetry (He can control the body of others against their will by willing it)
-Sleep Manipulation (Can make others drowsy and put them to sleep)
-Perception Manipulation (He has Magicka capable of making people to, for example, pass by him without seeing him)
- Fire Manipulation, Plasma Manipulation (Capable of firing off white hot plasma that burns the air itself into nothingness)
-Extrasensory Perception (Capable of detecting mana as well as being capable of identifying presences by identifying their different wavelengths and being capable of feeling the danger they pose)
-Glyph Creation (Capable of summoning magicka circles out of thin air, even with every step he takes or with other attacks.)
-Weather Manipulation (Azure Beheading is classified as a weather magicka that gathers the blue sky of the heavens and concentrates it unto the user's hand a bright azure sword; Capable of generating storm clouds)
- Electricity Manipulation (Capable of creating lightning storms and manifesting lightning strikes)
- Light Manipulation
-Darkness Manipulation (As if he was a denizen of shadow, he can make the darkness cling unto him)
-Forcefield Creation (Can deploy his golden ramparts in all directions, as well as his golden fortress)
- Heat Manipulation (He is capable of controling heat, and via psychic cold)
-Ice Manipulation (Can encase his opponents on giant sky piercing icebergs that do not melt away)
- Poison Manipulation
- Acid Manipulation
-Existence Erasure (Suimei's acid indefinitely dissolves into nothing those who fall victim to it, The overflowing power of Abreq ad Habra alone is capable of causing things to be turned into charcoal and then be erased from existence, the attack erases the opponent from the phase itself and erases all bonds the opponent has with the world altogether even returning Divinities to their conceptualized forms in the astral plane), Damage Boost (Ashurbanipal's flames are specially effective agsint living beings, Abreq ad Habra against those with divine power or nature.)
-Holy Manipulation
-Self-Sustenance (Type 1; Suimei altered the blueprint for his body in order to gain an organ capable of allowing him to cool down and lose the need to breathe or exhale and thus can continuously keep chanting)
-Non-Physical Interaction (Can kill conceptual existences, cut illusions, his golden ramparts are capable of temporarily blocking non-corporeal attacks which are mere corrupted thoughts. He is also capable of slicing dark magic down, as well as incinerating it into nothingness),
-Analytical Prediction (Can predict his opponents movements so well that it seems like if he was reading the future)
-Precognition (He has a 6th sense that he inherited from his mother that warns him of a bad event or danger)
-Instinctive Reaction (His body react on mere instinct when things are too fast for him to even track, like Titania.)
-Absorption (With Kalavinka's sweet voice he exposes his targets to a higher-order ego, which causes the selfishness of their ego to run wild and vanish with the being, as their ego is directly related to the mana they become unable to manifest mysteries once their ego vanished. As the embodiment of thirst, Kalavinka can be used to suck the opponent dry from mana, the more mana they have accumulated, or more magic defenses they set up the more effective the spell becomes); This one is just a change of classification
- Body Control (Can freely transform into gas, liquid or other solid materials like stone and maintain his consciousness)
- Power Nullification (Via rank disparity, dispelling, destroying the spell holding the mysteries together, unraveling the spells, destabilizing the probability of the magicka of his opponents,stealing the essence of the attack, obstructing the activation, capable of cuting down things like dark magic as well as and incinerating it into nothingness, or by forcefully canceling spells before they can be completely manifested, which also causes anguishing pain from the ethereal body)
-Attack Reflection (His fourth rampart deflects spells back)
-Damage Transferal (Sacrificial dolls take damage that others should have recived)
-Danmaku (Enth Astrarle causes beams of starlight to be shot from every single Magicka circle corresponding to a star in the night sky. He can also instantly produce 20 spears of light to attack the opponent with, and summon hundreds of magic circles that bombard the area endlessly which can be used to weave more magicka when the attack reaches the ground)
-Empowerment (Dark magic uses the negative emotions of humanity to become stronger)
-Biological Manipulation (His dark magic causes the opponent's body to rot away and crumble)
-Corruption (After being struck by dark magic the condition quickly spreads through the body into the core of the body, resulting in death)
-Madness Manipulation (Type 3; Transient hope is a dark magic attack similar in nature to the sinister being that drives those who presence it or hear its howl to be driven into insanity)
-Astral Projection (Exorcism magicka allows him to extend his astral body to attack the opponent's)
-Soul Manipulation (Can damage the astral body via dark magic; Capable of exorsicing spirits and binding them),
-Essence Manipulation (Capable of altering and damaging the ethereal body, the third component that makes up the "object" of a "form" that serves to draw it on reality. The ethereal body functions as a blueprint for both the astral and material body so if it is altered or damaged so will the other two); I did not know what to classify this as
-Fragrance Manipulation (Herb magicka makes those exposed to it susceptible to give out information they don't intend to or even overlook obvious things such as the presence of someone)
-Spatial Manipulation (inverting the surrounding space, his gravity cage shifts space, he can also trigger a space rewind which is reminiscent of just rewinding time as he did against Eanru)
-Purification (Capable of removing curses and/or lessen the effects of those which he cannot remove with suppression Magicka)
-Creation (Capable of manifesting objects out of thin air)
-Duplication (Via fast replication he is able to instantly clone himself several times)
-Sealing (Via sealing the opponent away on the ground or creating eternal seals)
-Summoning (He can summon portions of the abstract existences that are divinities into the physical plane to channel a portion of their power), Capable taking over the manifested phenomena of others in order to use them to his advantage)
- Teleportation (Via instant movement spells)
- Empathic Manipulation (Can manipulate or redirect the emotions of others by just letting them observe something that had been altered with magicka; can use negative feelings in order to attack the opponent)
-Pain Manipulation (Upon making contact with the gloves of discord they will scramble the nerve plexus and thus sending pain screaming through each and every one of the opponent nerves to the point that they faint before they can even react to the pain itself)
-Sound Manipulation(Can control sound to do such things as whispering to distant people)
- Earth Manipulation
-Water Manipulation (Binds opponents with hardened water, Air Manipulation
- Plant Manipulation
-Curse Manipulation (Ashurbanipal's flames are based upon a curse), Damage Transferal (Contagion curses transfer the effects of magicka, including the damage afflicted, unto others easily being capable of starting a global pandemic)
-Resistance Negation (By applyng curses to his attacks they can result effective despite resistances)
-Blessed
-Fate Manipulation (He is charged and protected by an exceptional destiny given by The Source itself. To fulfill the common wish of every being. To pursue that which they all desire to the very best of his abilities. To save those who cannot be saved. He can escape dreadful fates and those who draw too near to him will find him dazzling.)
-Negation of Immortality (Type 8; Capable of pushing back divinities back into the valley between worlds. Divinities that have reached the physical plane are reliant on the belief of their followers to maintain themselves in the physical plane)
-Statistics Amplification (Can counterspell enchantments
-Intangibility (Applied methods of dealing with elemental intangibility, physical vagueness and finally spatial ambiguity against one of the Demon Generals)
-Immortality (Type 9; Making use of the concept of truth and a lie he reveals the opponent's true body being hidden in another plane of existence).


Lefille Garkis additions​

-Stealth Mastery (Any skilled swordsman can conceal their presence)
- Extrasensory Perception (Can sense the spirit of others which includes their emotions and intentions)
-Analytical Prediction (She can track down the trajectory of an invisible sword despite a hyper-realistic illusion decoy that becomes more attention grabbing the better the senses of the opponent)
-Precognition (A swordsman of Lefille's caliber develops clairvoyance and her advanced insticts allows her to predict the future outcomes of the battle)
-Awakened Power (The power of the spirits resides within her)
-Blessed (As the shrine maiden has she has the blessings of Alshuna)
-Air Manipulation
-Non-Physical Interaction (Can interact with the mystical)
-Conceptual Manipulation (Type 2; Can harm conceptual existences like the apparitions with her red wind)
-Body Control, Intangibility (Capable of turning into a red gale)
-Vibration Manipulation (Can create shockwaves with the power of the tlesma)
-Deconstruction (Can produce shockwaves that reduces the opponents into mere ash)
-Forcefield Creation
-Aura (Her overflowing power of the spirits create a barrier around her that protects her from incoming attacks)
- Law Manipulation, Power Nullification (The power of the spirits grant her automatic rank disparity extinction a universal law that shuts down mystic phenomena of others)
- Paralysis Inducement ( Her gaze alone can intantly paralyze a battallion of soldiers and mages)
- Resistance towards Conceptual Manipulation (Type 2)
-Magic (Magic results ineffective against her who has the power of the spirits within her body)
-Paralysis Inducement
-Fear Manipulation (Can withstand the effects of other's fighting spirit)
-Soul Manipulation
-Mind Manipulation (Capable of taking hits from the demons and Rajas' miasma which destroy the astral body)


Hatsumi​

-Automatic Translation,
-Enhanced Senses (The moment she garbs a swords all of her senes sharpen, being easily capable of instnatly locating a concealed far away demon)
-Precognition (A swordsman of her caliber develops clairvoyance)
-Blessed (As a hero she has the blessings of Alshuna)
-Conceptual Manipulation (Type 2; The Kuchiba swordstyle can take down conceptual beings like apparitions)
-Non-Physical Interaction (Her sword style is effective against spirits)
-limited Sense Manipulation (She eliminates all other sensory information to fight at maximum capacity)
-Perception Manipulation (Slows down her perception of time to see things in slow motion)
-Statistics Amplification (She can momentarily attack 24 times in an instant)
-Spatial Manipulation (Her sword style defies all logic and allows her to strike at opponents far outside her physical range)
-Illusion Creation (Creates an illusion of her sword to make opponents lose track of her sword, she can also fool others into thinking her attack is an illusion when it's an ethereal strike)
-limited Attack Reflection (She can use the opponent's force against them)
-Negation of Immortality (Type 9)
-Intangibility (Could capture a demon general's true body which existed in another plane of existence)
-Resistance towards Memory Manipulation (Despite having lost all memory about who she was, her sword skill remained and instincts prevailed)
-Empathic Manipulation (She casts aside the poisons of the human heart to fully concentrate on her sword)
-Extrasensory Perception, Analytical Prediction (Opponents can't get a read on her movements or her emotions, like still body of water she is perfectly serene despite being on guard in combat. Whoever approaches her was the one that created the ripples, not her)
- Power Nullification
-Law Manipulation


Lilliana additions​

-Genius Intelligence (Even at her young age she is regarded as a terrifying genius by veteran magicians in her world, having relatively easily achieved power that should have taken years upon years of hard work to attain in a short amount of time. On top of that she is also terrifyingly skilled in other fields for her young age such as in her swordsmanship, having trained under one of the 7 greatest masters of the sword in the world and having become skilled in his techniques to a degree or her skill as one of the most important members of the information collection division of the empire. Even when compared to Felmenia Stingray Suimei considers it to be like comparing a hard worker to a prodigy.)
-Enhanced Senses (Has sharp senses akin to a net of threads on her surroundings that allow her to dodge a barrage of invisible attacks)
-Instinctive Reaction (Her body can move on its own)
-Weapon Mastery (Skilled swordsman)
-Extrasensory Perception (Can sense mana and spells)
-Statistics Amplification (Savage names can amplify the potency of spells)
-Homing Attack
-Empowerment (Dark magic uses the negative emotions of humanity)
-Forcefield Creation
-Fire Manipulation(Can use fire magic)
-Air Manipulation (Can use wind magic)
-Darkness Manipulation (Can manipulate darkness)
-Sense Manipulation (Can create a zone of hat obscures the senses of those who enter it, inlcuding extrasensory abilities and clairvoyance)
-Stealth Mastery (Can suppress her presence and noise; Even lacks a spiritual presence)
-Flight (Can sow together darkness to fly)
-Mind Manipulation
-Soul Manipulation (Her attacks directly target the astral body)
-Biological Manipulation (Her dark magic causes the opponent's body to rot away and crumble)
-Corruption (After being struck by dark magic the condition quickly spreads through the body into the core of the body, resulting in death)
-Transmutation (Can turn others into a mass of darkness,
-Summoning (Sinister beings are forth from the astral plane by her vulnerability against malice)
-Sleep Manipulation (Her malice causes others to faint even causing them to foam from the mouth; She can also force others to fall into a coma)
-Corrosion Inducement
-Acid Manipulation (Her mana melts away things under her influence as if exposed to chemicals)
-Negation of Non-Physical Interaction (Dark magic are mere corrupted thoughts that bypass even magicka defenses)
-Resistance towards Magic (To even touch upon a mystery one must have a degree of resistance towards it), Conceptual Manipulation (Type 2)
-Fear Manipulation
-Paralysis Inducement
-Sleep Manipulation
-Sense Manipulation (Unaffected by the zone of darkness)
-Curse Manipulation
-Corruption
-Mind Manipulation
-Soul Manipulation (Resistant to the effects of dark magic)
-Madness Manipulation (Type 3)
-Death Manipulation (Survived the presence of a sinister being which would have killed any normal person with just its presence)
-Add a mage and magician key, as a magician abilities:
-Enhanced Senses (Can see astral beings like the shadow of Astaroth)
-Conceptual Manipulation (Type 2; Magicka uses a conceptual approach to manifest phenomena rather than a physical one)
- Telekinesis
-Flight
-Sound Manipulation (Capable of creating sound isolating barriers)
-Astral Projection (Can extend her astral body to strike at the opponent's), -Air Manipulation (Can wrench the air)
-Spatial Manipulation, Black Hole Creation (Dark magic allows her to create miniature black holes that warp space and eat it away)
-Sealing (Can seal away the opponents and their magick into a muddy bog that acts as cursed burial)
-Invisibility (Can render herself and others invisible)
- Perception Manipulation (Concealment magicka works to make others subcounsiously ignore the existance of the user even if they see them)
- Resistance towards Power Nullification, Law Manipulation (Can offset rank disparity extinction)
-Abilities for her summons:
-Astaroth
-Abstract Existence (Type 1; Is the the personification of the resentment and ugliness of humanity)
-Immortality (Type 9; Its true self exists in the astral plane)
-Death Manipulation (The presence of the sinister being can kill)
-Fear Manipulation (Its presence causes indescribable dread that causes those who experience it to want to run away; its shrill voice plants unforgettable fear and disconfort on those who hear it)
-Conceptual Manipulation (Type 2)
-Corruption (All that comes near it becomes corrupted with its malice)
-Sound Manipulation, Vibration Manipulation (Its voice turns into a shockwave that assaults the bodies of the opponents)
-Madness Manipulation (Type 3; Its appearence and voice drives others into insanity)
-Howler
-Immortality (Type 8; Reliant on the concepts of the words that give it power)
-Abstract Existence (Type 1, 2; Its existence is made up out of the concepts of words and take shape in the world with those)
-Natural Weaponry
-Sound Manipulation, Vibration Manipulation (Can attack with his howl)
-Fear Manipulation (All those who hear its howl are overcome with fear just from it)
-Power Nullification
-Resistance towards
-Spatial Manipulation
-Black Hole Creation (Comes from beyond the warped space created by Lilliana)
-Power Nullification (Due to being classified as a charm it cannot be dispelled normally)
-Law Manipulation (High-ranking mysteries are resistant to rank disparity extinction)
-Noisy
-Immortality (Type 8; Reliant on the concepts of the words that give it power)
-Abstract Existence (Type 1, 2; Its existence is made up out of the concepts of words and take shape in the world with those)
-Flight
-Natural Weaponry
-Sound Manipulation
-Power Nullification (The cacophony it produces disrupts spells)
-Duplication (Became over a hundred crows, Law Manipulation (Can trigger rank disparity extinction, a universal law that shuts down lower ranking mysteries)
-Resistance towards Power Nullification (Due to being classified as a charm it cannot be dispelled normally)
- Law Manipulation (High-ranking mysteries are resistant to rank disparity extinction)

Additions to felmenia​

-Genius Intelligence (Even as a young girl she was considered a genius who peered into the abyss of the ways of magic. She studied under the country's old sage and after 10 years he had nothing else to teach her, having learnt stuff that should have taken 30 years at the bare minimum to learn for a skilled mage. After being taken in by Yakagi Suimei as his disciple she attained knowledge, skills and power that surpassed that of normal veteran mages of Suimei's world in mere six months. To put this into perspective, her world compared to Suimei's was hundreds of years behind on everything related to mystic research and even for her world she was behind when it came to practical applications of magic due to her time being devoted to research.)
-Sound Manipulation (She can magically whisper to others which no one else can hear)
- Extrasensory Perception (Can sense mana and spells)
-Homing Attack (Can make her attacks follow after the opponent),
-Summoning (Can summon people from other worlds)
- Information Analysis(By drawing a magic circle she can analyze the compositions of spells)
-Stealth Mastery (Can conceal her presence, concealing sounds produced by her, her body heat, and even the movement of the air caused by even slight exhalations.)
-Vibration Manipulation (She can create shockwaves using wind magic)
-Air Manipulation
-Clairvoyance (She can use wind magic to carry information such as to look for someone)
- Forcefield Creation (Can block attacks by creating air barriers)
- Electricity Manipulation (Can fire bolts of lightning and manipulate them),
- Ice Manipulation,
- Statistics Amplification (Can reinforce her strength)
-Add mage, magician key and magicka furnace key
-Add to magician key
-Enhanced Senses (Can see invisible presences)
-Telekinesis
-Flight (Can use flight magicka)
-Teleportation (Via instant movement spell)
-Plasma Manipulation (Casts white hot plasma)
-Danmaku (Her plasma rain even jumps between afflicted and healthy individuals to affect as many as possible)
-Weather Manipulation (Creates clouds that rain white hot plasma)
-Statistics Amplification (Can boost her speed)
- Self-Sustenance (Type 1)
- Resistance towards Soul Manipulation
-Mind Manipulation
-Add to magicka furnace key
-Heat Manipulation, (Her presence comes with scrotching heat akin to the sun)

Additions to Rajas​

Flight (Capable of flight),
- Immortality (Type 2),
-Extrasensory Perception
- Self-Sustenance (Type 2; Demons live in an inhospitable land for any other living creature)
-Forcefield Creation
-Darkness Manipulation,
-Sound Manipulation (Can unleash a destructive roar)
-Mind Manipulation, Soul Manipulation (Damages the astral body with with his miasma)
-Existence Erasure (His power was gonna erase Lefille's body and soul)
-Paralysis Inducement (A single gaze from him completely paralyzes)
-Aura, Fear Manipulation (Omits an dredfully opressive aura that is like poision for others)
-Existence Erasure (Survived Suimei Abeq Ad Habra)
-Mind Manipulation

Eanru Additions​

Clarissa Additions​

-Extrasensory Perception (Can sense presences)
- Natural Weaponry
-Martial Arts
-Transformation
-Forcefield Creation (Her mana forms a barrier around her)
- Paralysis Inducement, Fear Manipulation (Can withstand the effects of other's fighting spirit)
-Mind Manipulation, Soul Manipulation (Can take hits from demons who damage the astral body with their attacks)/SPOILER]

Titania additions​

- Master Swordswoman
-Fire Manipulation
-Air Manipulation
-Water Manipulation
-Earth Manipulation (Can create walls of earth)
-Statistics Amplification (Via enhancement magic)
-Durability Negation (Her swordskill allows her to ignore the physical impossibility of slicing something and cut through it regadless like butter)
-Instinctive Reaction (Her body reacts and moves before she even realizes it)
-Blessed (The believers of Alshuna are naturally blessed with the connection to her, allowing them to harm demons despite their miasma that resists magic)
-Resistance towards Soul Manipulation and Mind Manipulation (Capable of taking hits from the demons miasma which destroy the astral body)
- Information Analysis (Even Suimei's magician eyes were incapable of identifying a weak point in her combat style)
 
The ap changes are fine.

Also agree with speed but that's cause i have seen and know the evidence think you should post them there, btw the 1 imgur link you posted there isn't working.

As for the cosmology stuff, first imgur link again not working neither is the last. I will have to see them to make up my mind there about whether the source and records are really Low 1-C, never thought of that.

The abilities affected from the tier of the astral plane i think needs a lot of evidence.


Abedaq Ad Habra: I think it's fine as it's a spell that works on Gods of equal rank to Alshuna who is 2-A.
The dimensionality of the concepts used: Dependent on the astral plane- This implies concepts in general are link to the astral plane, which i don't remember that being said, there are concepts in the astral plane, gods are concepts, the sinful being that showed up is, but this sort of makes it seem like concepts in general are. The elements for example are concept, and make up and are transcendent to the world, but like being a 2-A concept? Need to see proof of this.
Suimei’s charm protection: Dependent on astral plane- This is true
Dark Magic: As a raw concept and capable of piercing Suimei’s charm protection it is reliant on the astral plane too, and Liliana0s resistance to it- Dark magic is made of peoples resentment and exists alongside the elements so if the elements are 2-A concepts, it would be, but need to see the evidence.
Rank Disparity Extinction: Capable of shutting down dark magic so it is reliant on the astral plane-Again need to see evidence of this
The heroes blessings: The resistances granted to them might not scale but to power null their abilities you’d need something to power null the blessings of a divine which scales to the astral plane.-Same as what i said before
Suimei’s fate manipulation: Scales to the source-This is true, but need proof the source is actually Low 1-C instead of 2-A like i thought.

Everything else is fine, since i already saw that and was involved in it.
 
The Imgur links probably got broken when I was trying to figure out how to insert a link and turn it into text, my bad.

dimensionality of concepts/resentment: The concepts exist outside of the confines of the world, same as with the resentment of humanity if you remember. That is how it ended up blending into being discovered and mistaken as the element of darkness. When Suimei is explaining the resentment of humanity he directly states that it cogulates and comes from the astral plane. Furthermore proof is the fact that when Lilliana used enough of the world’s resentment it was able to penetrate the higher-dimensional defense.

Rank Disparity: It regularly shuts down the type 2 concepts so it is reliant on it.

Heroes blessings: The 2-A being grants them Regen and the like with its divine power, I figured it’s pretty straightforward that to null the power of a higher being you’d need the potency. Regardless those witch divine blessings receive protection from a higher-order thing that Magic that grants them their magic resistance, if the dimensionality of concepts goes up that’d be backing it up.

Regarding the source: The Akashic Records are considered the last gate of the highest-order, which holds all principles of creation and is considered unreachable by magicka theory. Regarded as omnipotent, which just goes to show its importance. The Source is the thing from which all things originate and where all things will eventually return when they end and are regarded to be fundamentally on the same level as the Akashic Records. This goes beyond the astral plane and hinted to include it in its nature of eternal reoccurrence.

btw, aren’t realms that contain and stretch beyond an infinite multiverse 5-Dimensional or am I mistaken?
 
Cool so dark magic exists in the astral plane, legit.

Also good

Indeed, i relooked at what i have, and it's said the elements grant divine protection when heroes cross worlds, so legit.

Basically a bunch of stuff about being the beginning and end of all things, idk not a tier 1 expert, so can't say if if it's Low 1-C.

I would assume if it contains and is beyond infinite multiverses, it would be uncountably infinite ie 5-D, but we need some input there from knowledgeable people.
 
I trust Celestial_Pegasus' sense of judgement.
 
"The World" in the Isekai Mahou series does not normally refer to the physical space of the universe, rather it refers to the infinite number of universes that come to be from the literal infinite number of possibilities and combinations in parallel worlds that co-exist with one another in the image of one "master world", or in other words the base for their original existence. For every "what if", "something that happened", every changed mind, every desire, ect... an entire new parallel world is given birth to.
Was this clearly mentioned in the series, or did you come to the conclusion based on something else? If it was based on something else, do let me know about it. It'd really help with proving the existence of infinite parallel worlds in other series where we don't get a clear explanation.
 
It was directly stated, there is a set of worlds that basically come from one master world and derive into infinity via quantum mechanics and another infinite set of master worlds distinct from Suimei's Master World that multiply into infinite as well. That is the difference between a parallel world an another world.
 
Phantom's links are broken, but there are clearly stated to be infinite worlds in this series:

There exists a theory that states the world is an infinite existence. This doesn’t refer to the physical space of the world, but rather the number of worlds within “the world” at large. Such worlds are called parallel worlds, as they exist parallel to one another in the image of a master world. They could also be called counterfeit worlds, in that sense. For example, people who are alive and well on Earth may not even exist on a parallel Earth. Or a policeman who lives his life in the righteous light of day might be a criminal lurking in the dark underbelly of society in a parallel world. To take it to the very extreme, the roll of a single die could have six different results in six different parallel worlds. For every “something someone did,” for every “something that happened,” for every “what if,” and for every regret, every changed mind, and every wish for things to play out differently... an entirely new parallel world was given form. Now, the existence of separate worlds is a completely distinct theory from that of parallel worlds, though perhaps such worlds could also be called counterfeits... Blue sparks flickered into the air atop the lawn of a certain mansion garden. But the dancing phosphorescence illuminating the area was no natural phenomenon. No, it was the light of mana. Volume 9, Chapter 1

So there are infinite parallel worlds for a single master one, separate worlds is a different thing though. This theory is proven to exist in reality cause Suimei travel from 1 world to the next

“It’s a phenomenon of lower-class spirits called the Elements. They’re what’s mediating with the spell.” “A phenomenon is?” “It happens, right? You know, that . The law of parallel worlds theory.” “Really? That super abstract theory that states that because other worlds are governed by different laws, phenomena unique to them can still occur here so long as the two worlds are connected?” “Yup. That’s the one. The Elements are one such ‘law’ that gives rise to unique phenomena in their world.” “That’s amazing. It was considered a completely empty theory since it was previously impossible to observe other worlds to begin with, wasn’t it?” “This just proves that it can be actualized.” Volume 9, Chapter 1

Parallel worlds exist, so this means infinite possibilities do as well

“Does the existence of another world bring us closer to accomplishing our goal?” “I do wonder about that, but at the very least, some hope has come into sight. Either way, this means another dimension exists.” The Society’s ideals placed a lot of emphasis on the parallel worlds mentioned in the Akashic Records and the possibilities that they could bring into being. If parallel worlds existed, then so too did infinite possibilities. Somewhere in the universe, there was a world where every single person could be saved... And that hope alone was enough to deny absolute misfortune. Volume 9, Chapter 1
 
So there are infinite parallel worlds for a single master one, separate worlds is a different thing though. This theory is proven to exist in reality cause Suimei travel from 1 world to the next
It's great that there's so much text talking about it.
 
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It was directly stated, there is a set of worlds that basically come from one master world and derive into infinity via quantum mechanics and another infinite set of master worlds distinct from Suimei's Master World that multiply into infinite as well. That is the difference between a parallel world an another world.
The world is so much more explained in this one, which really helps a lot in verifying many things.
 
The world building/power system of Isekai Mahou is quite well developed in general, not many light novels I've read go that in depth. But regarding instant death I think it is better to keep that for its discussion thread as much as I like the series myself.
 
The world building/power system of Isekai Mahou is quite well developed in general, not many light novels I've read go that in depth. But regarding instant death I think it is better to keep that for its discussion thread as much as I like the series myself.
Of course. I just couldn't help but appreciate the world building in Isekai Mahou.
 
The worldbuilding in Mahou is one of the best i have seen in light novels, it's why i like the series.

Anyway lets stay on topic here, someone probably needs to get some staff knowledgeable on tier 1 stuff to evaluate whether or not the source and akashic records really are Low 1-C.
 
I was contacted to check the dimensionality of the Akashic Records/Source so I will give my thought; I don't think the scans are solid enough for Low 1-C because the evidence from the primary sources looks too vague from transcendence.
 
What about the a astral plane which contains the infinite multiverses(+) and expands indefinitely beyond it? That wouldn’t be enough for 5D either?
 
Where is it said the astral plane expands beyond the multiverses? It contains all of creation which has probably 2 sets of infinite multiverses, but don't know where it's said it doesn't just contain them, but is beyond them.

That said i have seen arguments about transcending infinite multiverses and stuff that never lead to upgrades, if that's anything to go by, you're gonna need a direct statement of like 1 seeing the other as fiction, molecules etc or a statement about it being uncountable infinite, cause it's really hard to go from 2-A to Low 1-C.
 
Never mind, I was misremembering. I got that off the top of my head but it was just the astral plane by itself. Well that’s fine then, I suppose then it would be infinitely above baseline Multiversal+?
 
We don't really treat such verse as infinite 2-A on the cosmology, from the tiering system:


Note 4:

In spite of what our intuitions may tell us, destroying or otherwise fully affecting multiple infinite-sized multiverses is in fact not a better feat than doing the same to a single infinite multiverse, and thus, not above the "baseline" for 2-A

The reason behind this is that the total amount of universes contained in a collection of multiple infinitely-sized multiverses (Even one consisting of infinitely many of them) is in fact equal to the amount of universes contained in a single one of the multiverses that form this ensemble: It is countably infinite, as the union of countably-many countable sets is itself countable, and thus does not differ in size from its components. Thus, only an uncountably infinite number of universes actually makes any difference in terms of Attack Potency, at this scale.

This illustrates some of the more unintuitive properties of sets with infinite elements: Namely, given a set X, it being a subset of another set Y does not imply that Y > X in terms of size. An example of this is how the set of all natural numbers contains both the odd numbers and even numbers, yet all of these sets in fact have the same number of elements.

However, such a feat may indeed qualify as stronger if the verse itself treats it as such.
 
Thanks, yeah, I knew about that from the discord.

I was saying so given that the verse treated the existence of other worlds as an important event that would require laws of magicka to be re-writen beyond just the existence of parallel worlds as it would mean the Akashic Records expanded into unimaginable possibilities in order to fulfill the magician’s ideals, so in other words the existence of them would mean that a greater feat than previously thought could be achieved. I don’t know if the only way to qualify is to have it straight up said to be stronger, but I’d find it weird that the verse puts so much importance on it to treat it the same as one imo, ofc that’s just me.


“It happens, right? You know, that. The law of parallel worlds theory.”
“Really? That super abstract theory that states that because other worlds are governed by different laws, phenomena unique to them can still occur here so long as the two worlds are connected?”
“Yup. That’s the one. The Elements are one such ‘law’ that gives rise to unique phenomena in their world.”
“That’s amazing. It was considered a completely empty theory since it was previously impossible to observe other worlds to begin with, wasn’t it?”
“This just proves that it can be actualized.”
“That’s a big achievement, Suimei-kun.”

“Does the existence of another world bring us closer to accomplishing our goal?”
“I do wonder about that, but at the very least, some hope has come into sight. Either way, this means another dimension exists.”
The Society’s ideals placed a lot of emphasis on the parallel worlds mentioned in the Akashic Records and the possibilities that they could bring into being. If parallel worlds existed, then so too did infinite possibilities. Somewhere in the universe, there was a world where every single person could be saved... And that hope alone was enough to deny absolute misfortune.
No one likes a bad ending; everyone would prefer to see things come to a neat, happy end... especially when it involves your own life or the lives of the ones you love. To that end, we all strive for the best we can achieve. And should the existence of parallel worlds be proven, misfortune could no longer be written off as fate. There would be a place in the universe for everyone, meaning there wasn’t a single soul that couldn’t be saved. The Society was a gathering of like-minded magicians who sought exactly that in defiance of all other bad endings.”
 
By the way, aside from that can changes be applied or do we need more input for other stuff? The profiles would look the same regardless
 
I just remembered we have a direct statement of not only the gods being higher-dimensional but the astral plane itself regarded as a higher-dimension to the world (which is 2-A by parallel worlds). From what I've talked with people about it seems like it might help.

Aski, kataski, lix, tetrax, damnameneus, aision. Darkness, brightness, earth, the year, the sun, and reason. With those words, malice in the higher dimension was blocked by their power. Normally, it was magicka that was rarely used. So infrequently, in fact, that it could be said that it was never used in respectable fights between fellow magicians.
 
So basically the astral plane is a higher dimension that contains 2 infinite multiverses.

Btw now that i think about it, Io Kazami or whatever that spirit is called possessing Mizuki, is basically a higher dimensional being like the Gods, seeing as it came from the astral plane and serves Alshuna. Not to mention being a conceptual being.
 
It’s implied there’s many (probably infinite by context, but not directly stated) master worlds that result in 2-A multiverses.

Now, the existence of separate worlds is a completely distinct theory from that of parallel worlds, though perhaps such worlds could also be called counterfeits...

Regardless, Astral Plane is said by narration to be a high-dimension to Multiverses which from what I remembered are regarded as 4-D structures.
 
I meant the multiverse, V9 explains the nature of "the world" to be a multiverse, you've quoted it, crossing into another Multiverse would require travel jumping the astral plane. Misspell, but it does not really change the Dimensionality of the relative structure, I sent it being a higher-dimension earlier.

The summoning spell that brought them to this world was different from a normal summoning spell. The function was the same in theory, but in order for it to work across dimensions, the scale of it was nearly unthinkable. If they’d summoned him to the astral plane, it would be a different story, but to summon a target whose location couldn’t even be verified in a parallel world was something Suimei had never even heard of back home.

Ah, yeah, the spirit is sent with the power of Alshuna to possess Mizuki but the true nature of the spirit should be higher-dimensional and abstract, which Suimei/Liliana can still bind and eject if he knew their true name.
 
Speaking of that, Suimei's range should also be Multiversal+ with dimensional travel since he can travel between multiverses. Makes perfect sense when you consider he can causally come back from other dimensions like the underworld, but going back home took him 9 volumes to figure out.

Edit: Actually didn't range page get update so now you need to affect the entire structure to get the range? So just travelling to a multiverse wouldn't give multiversal range anymore. Forget what i said then.
 
It's a realm that contains all of creation, so yea logically jumping from 1 multiverse to the next means crossing the plane, cause the plane contains everything.

Don't really see how that makes in transcendent in a way to warrant Low 1-C though.

What Phantom was trying to prove is that the realm is treated as being infinitely above baseline 2-A.
 
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I mean I'll take either, there being a world beyond the infinite parallel worlds is being regarded as baffling n' its discovery super important and stuff I've already mentioned... however the astral plane is also regarded to be a higher-dimension to the world by narration which is already 4-D and encompassing the other and the parallel worlds. If one doesn't work the other one is there just in case..
 
The quote about malice in the higher dimension is a little vague to me if we are trying to connect that with how the plane compares to the world, it says malice is in the higher dimension, and yea obviously the plane is higher dimensional cause it contains all of creation, but haven't seen a comparison being made directly about the plane being higher dimensional in comparison to everything else ie something like, "compared to the world, the astral plane exists in a higher dimension"'.
 
Well, it can't really reside in a higher-dimension if it is the higher-dimension. The fact that it is being called a higher-dimension is already denoting it being higher than ______, even the universe is a 4-D plane so idk what else it could be in relation to, it would be different if it was denoted to be a higher-order (like it is used when existences are raised) then yeah I'd see that.
 
The malice is in the higher dimension, which is the astral plane, nothing contradictory there. Higher dimension could mean 4-D, in this case it would be infinite 4-D, that it means higher dimensional in comparison to a universe, seems like an assumption to me, cause it's not stated what it's higher dimensional in comparison to.
 
Alright, well, regarding the above baseline? The verse generally regard the feats involving crossing multiverses as far more impressive as parallel worlds, albeit it has not been in destruction (as it has not happened) but at least it would recognize a qualitative difference between them.
 
Yea i think so, looking at what's said about summoning spells, a normal 1 summons people to parallel worlds, but the 1 that summoned Suimei was on a vastly different scale cause it summoned them to another multiverse, and thus the scale of it is unthinkable.

It basically acknowledges a large difference between the 2.
 
I came to the thread because I heard 2-A stuff because of a source.
No. Drawing from a source doesn’t give you that level of power or prowess. Rick Sanchez’s car isn’t 2-C because it has a universe in a universe in a universe, nor are its weapons 4D.
I don’t know the context of this source as I haven’t even read the OP, just being told about this, so take what I’m saying with a grain of salt. But if it’s what I’m thinking at, drawing from something doesn’t give you its full scope. Otherwise like, 5D Green Lanterns, Speedsters, and Wonder Woman.
 
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