Quicksilver (X-Men movies) Revisions

[Gwynbleiddd]

Since we decided that AP from KE and Speed should be judged case by case, does Quicksilver have any showings that would prove his AP?If not then he needs a downgrade.

 

[Lina_Shields]

According to the KE rules, Quiksilver was not carrying anything when he moved at the calculated speed. This means that KE cannot be derived using Quiksilver's speed.

He also did not ram into any objects with the intention of destroying it either, thus KE cannot be used for this as well.

I support the downgrade.

 

[Amelia_Lonelyheart]

If he did not useh is speed to offensively tackle enemies like Lina stated, then I also support the downgrade. Out of curiosity, what tier would he be downgraded too?

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

Well, he did carry two people while kicking out a window in the scene

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

and he was dealing Apocalypse a number of hits that were hurting him before he decided to use his more advanced abilities to stomp peter

 

[RadicalMrR]

As much as I hate to say it, i'm in favor of this downgrade.

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

^Did you read what I had to say at all?

 

[Blahblah9755]

He carried several people, a large curtain or something like that, kicked a table through a window, and threw several people around like it was nothing, all at these speeds. And the low end isn't inconsistent since he could actually harm Apocalypse, someone who was unaffected by building level attacks from Cyclops and Storm.

 

[RadicalMrR]

@Peter sorry I was typing so I didn't see what you posted.

I don't remember that part to well, were his punching having any visible effect on Apocalypse or was Quicksilver just sorta tossing him around?

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdhBt3zjYEg

As you can see, Apocalyspe was grunted in pain multiple times from being hit by Peter

 

[RadicalMrR]

Then, we can probably scale QuickSilver's AP from Apocalypse's Dura.

 

[LordXcano]

He blows out a wall with the curtains but that's nowhere near the Town he's at.

 

[Jucaslucas]

Well, when he punched Apocalypse, he was moving faster than the explosions were in comparison to Peter. How much ap would he need to do that?

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

He blows out a wall with the curtains but that's nowhere near the Town he's at.

Where you getting town from?

 

[LordXcano]

MCB, excuse me

 

[Antvasima]

I think that scaling from Apocalypse's durability seems reasonable.

 

[Lina_Shields]

Unless I am reading Apocalypse's profile incorrectly, his durability section states that he is "at least Building level" normally to physical blows.

at least Building level normally (Unaffected by Cyclops' Beams and Storm's Lightning)

However, if Quicksilver did actually move at the speed calculated (Mach 2000+) WHILE carrying the two people out of the explosion, as Peter Maximoff has stated, let's just say that Quicksilver's AP is much higher than Building level, that's for sure.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay then.

 

[Amelia_Lonelyheart]

Does anyone know who he was carrying then? Assuming they were pretty lite, I got MCB for the low end and Town level for high end.

 

[Antvasima]

Also, movie Apocalypse's page seems rather incoherent in terms of statistics, as does movie Jean Grey's for that matter.

Perhaps somebody could improve upon them?

 

[Lina_Shields]

The old video for the Quicksilver calc is down. Here is a new one.

That being said, after looking at AMM's comment in regards to Quicksilver and the Google Maps thing, I am actually leaning towards AMM's thoughts a lot more...

@Dark: Well, Quiksilver was carrying both a boy and a girl, so if each of them weighed 60 to 70kg, that would suffice. Using 60kg each for both boy and the girl, and the speed of Mach 2138, I get a value of 8223.6 Tons of TNT.

The bigger question however is, is this an outlier for Quicksilver?

 

[Antvasima]

Well, he did harm Apocalypse, who may or may not have Continent level durability.

 

[Antvasima]

Of course, both comicbooks and comicbook movies tend to let the protagonists harm characters far beyond their tier, but nevertheless, I do not think that Town level appears to be an outlier.

 

[Lina_Shields]

According to AMM's suggestion for Quicksilver's speed, I got a KE value of about:

• (0.5*2 people*60kg)*((32771.5*340.3)^2) = 1783512.3 Tons of TNT. Small City level.

Seeing that Quiksilver was able to slightly faze Apocalypse This lines up with Apocalypse who apparently has City level durability due to tanking Magneto's regular attacks, but I disgress.

I agree with having Quicksilver's AP as Town level from Kkapoios calculation, until a new speed for Quicksilver can be calculated.

Edit: Town level starts at 5800 Tons of TNT.

 

[Antvasima]

That seems reasonable.

 

[Amelia_Lonelyheart]

Sorry for asking, but I'm a little confused.

Your first result, 8223 Tons is Town level (8 kilotons) and your second is around 1 Megaton (Small City level), where does Small Town level come from?

 

[Lina_Shields]

I made a little mistake there. 8223.6 Tons of TNT is indeed town level. Thank you for pointing that out.

Also, the KE for Quicksilver varies ENTIRELY on his calculated speed. If we go with KKapoios' speed calculation, he sits at Town level.

 

[RadicalMrR]

So low end is small town level.

Mid end is town level

and High end is small city level?

If it's consistent with Apocalypse's durability and we do decide to factor speed into his AP i'm fine with this change.

 

[RadicalMrR]

So are we gonna upgrade him?

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

If we do may i have the honors?

 

[Lina_Shields]

@Peter: You may perform the upgrades. What are your thoughts on the upgrades I proposed?

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

^How the hell is X-Men peter is stronger then actually marvel pietro lol all jokes aside i think there fine