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(Professional Wrestling) Turns out WWE LS Scaling isn’t really pulling it’s weight (Haha see what I did there?) Anyways let’s fix that

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Armorchompy said:
My ultimate, final and unquestionable conclusion on the barrels is: idk
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All of that waiting just for this 😭

How about we calculate 3 separate ends for the barrel feat:

Low-end: Assuming the barrels were empty.

Mid-end: Assuming the barrels were partially filled.

High-end: Assuming the barrels were 100% filled.

Would this be okay to do? We can then post it in a blog and get calc members to evaluate which end works best, as their's no concrete proof that the barrels were empty or filled.
 
RandomGuy2345 said:
because at Triple H has shown to compete with the likes of Scott Steiner (albeit ultimately losing in the end).
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Made a mistake.

Scott Steiner whooped Triple H in an arm wrestling match. So no. Triple H should not be anywhere near the level of Scott Steiner.

Now this is where I'd consider feats like this being a PIS. Triple H has shown to hold his own against The Great Khali in a test of strength, but gets destroyed in an arm wrestling contest by Scott Steiner, someone who's arguably weaker than Khali.
 
John Cena being on the same tier as Theory is crazy ngl. If I had to make tiering using the stated characters, it'd look like this.
Low Tier: Literally any cruiserweight, all of them can't lift for some reason.
Mid Tier: Theory, Del Rio, Seth, Chris
High Tier: Cena, Reigns, Sheamus
Top Tier: Henry, Lesnar, Strowman, Show, Cesaro


Yes I think Cesaro >> High Tier. He literally hurls people several feet in the air. His whole gimmick is being the strongest wrestler pound for pound.
 
There’s very few people at all in WWE “Known for their LS.” It’s really just the strongmen and a small handful of Mid-Tiers like Cena.

I can buy a “Upper-Mid” Tier with the likes of Cena and all, maybe it’s value is just > The Mid-Tier value, but Theory has no place in it
 
I'm 100% confident that Theory would shit on Del Rio, Rollins, and Jericho in a contest of strength.

Plus, you can be weaker than someone in terms of LS, yet still be in the same tier.

You can say that Theory's weaker than Sheamus, Cena, etc., but Theory is without a doubt stronger than Del Rio, Jericho, and Rollins.

Both Cena and Theory are known bodybuilders.
 
DivineAura44 said:
John Cena being on the same tier as Theory is crazy ngl. If I had to make tiering using the stated characters, it'd look like this.
Low Tier: Literally any cruiserweight, all of them can't lift for some reason.
Mid Tier: Theory, Del Rio, Seth, Chris
High Tier: Cena, Reigns, Sheamus
Top Tier: Henry, Lesnar, Strowman, Show, Cesaro


Yes I think Cesaro >> High Tier. He literally hurls people several feet in the air. His whole gimmick is being the strongest wrestler pound for pound.
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Just because you aren't as strong as someone, doesn't mean you can't be in the same category as them. Theory isn't far off from what Cena whatsoever in terms of LS. He's not getting shit on in a test of strength against Cena like Del Rio.

I'm really against putting Del Rio in the same category as people who can't even lift wrestlers like Bobby Lashley.
 
RandomGuy2345 said:
I'm really against putting Del Rio in the same category as people who can't even lift wrestlers like Bobby Lashley.
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Literally everyone can lift Bobby Lashley except for like Ellsworth, lifting him is literally the feat for low-tiers
 
Oh I don’t have it properly laid out but it would be a “Low-Mid” Tier for those who are obviously not “Strong” but can put in decent feats of strength nonetheless such as The Demon or Del Rio (That probably solves your issue with Theory scaling to people you think are weaker than him because we can just ship them all there)
 
Pikaman said:
Oh I don’t have it properly laid out but it would be a “Low-Mid” Tier for those who are obviously not “Strong” but can put in decent feats of strength nonetheless such as The Demon or Del Rio (That probably solves your issue with Theory scaling to people you think are weaker than him because we can just ship them all there)
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Yeah. I'm cool with that.

Theory is stronger than The Demon and Del Rio, but he's not quite on the level of Cena, Sheamus, and more.

Though I guarantee if Theory becomes a main eventer, they'll give him feats of strength that'll make him on par with them.
 
Low Tier: Finn Balor, Rey Mysterio, Ricochet, etc.

Low-Mid Tier: Alberto Del Rio, Chris Jericho, The Demon, etc.

Mid Tier: Austin Theory, Randy Orton, etc.

High Tier: John Cena, Sheamus, Roman Reigns, etc.

Top Tier: Big Show, Boobby Lashley, Braun Strowman, Cesaro, etc.

How does this look?
 
Low Tier: Athletic Human

Low-Mid Tier: At least Athletic Human, possibly Peak Human

Mid Tier: At least Athletic Human, likely Peak Human, possibly Higher

High Tier: At least Athletic Human, likely Peak Human, at most Class 5

Top Tier: Class 5 to Class 25

This is just a rough draft. I'm not too sure if I agree with this scaling tbh.
 
RandomGuy2345 said:
Low Tier: Finn Balor, Rey Mysterio, Ricochet, etc.

Low-Mid Tier: Alberto Del Rio, Chris Jericho, The Demon, etc.

Mid Tier: Austin Theory, Randy Orton, etc.

High Tier: John Cena, Sheamus, Roman Reigns, etc.

Top Tier: Big Show, Boobby Lashley, Braun Strowman, Cesaro, etc.

How does this look?
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I can get behind this for sure, I’ll plug in some values soon
 
Low Tier: Possibly Above Average Human, At Most Athletic Human (<124KG)

Low-Mid Tier: At least Athletic Human (~124KG), possibly Peak Human (Baseline)

Mid Tier: At least Athletic Human (>124KG), likely Peak Human (Baseline)

High Tier: At least Athletic Human (>>>124KG), likely Peak Human (>Baseline), Possibly Higher

We already have the values for Top Tiers
 
Pikaman said:
Low Tier: Possibly Above Average Human, At Most Athletic Human (<124KG)

Low-Mid Tier: At least Athletic Human (~124KG), possibly Peak Human (Baseline)

Mid Tier: At least Athletic Human (>124KG), likely Peak Human (Baseline)

High Tier: At least Athletic Human (>>>124KG), likely Peak Human (>Baseline), Possibly Higher

We already have the values for Top Tiers
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That’s my take on the scaling and numbers
 
I disagree with baseline Peak Human, as well as >baseline Peak Human.

There are tons of Peak Human feats done that those wrestlers scale to.
 
RandomGuy2345 said:
I disagree with baseline Peak Human, as well as >baseline Peak Human.

There are tons of Peak Human feats done that those wrestlers scale to.
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If you could show me some that would be great, I only had baseline there because I didn’t think we had any official Peak Human feats
 
RandomGuy2345 said:
Randy Orton tosses the Big Show over the top rope. I believe this is somewhere between 400-500 lbs???
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Probably not gonna get the full weight since it’s just making Big Show tip over the top rope, which only requires making him lose his footing since he’s already leaning into said rope.


RandomGuy2345 said:
John Cena lifts both Big Show and Edge. Iirc, this is 700+ pounds of weight.
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Only 283KG (A little over 600 pounds) but still above baseline Peak Human, so that’s nice!



RandomGuy2345 said:
Ricochet performs a fallaway slam to Ivar. Ivar weighs 304 pounds.
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Only Athletic Human, but wouldn’t Ricochet only be Low Tier? Would be a nice upgrade for them
 
Pikaman said:
Probably not gonna get the full weight since it’s just making Big Show tip over the top rope, which only requires making him lose his footing since he’s already leaning into said rope.
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Let me look for some more.

Pikaman said:
Only Athletic Human, but wouldn’t Ricochet only be Low Tier? Would be a nice upgrade for them
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That was the point. I was trying to upgrade the Low Tiers.
 
Low Tier: At least Above Average Human (<124KG) possibly Athletic Human (138KG)

Low-Mid Tier: At least Athletic Human (>138KG), possibly Peak Human (Baseline)

Mid Tier: Peak Human (232.693KG)

High Tier: At least Peak Human (283KG), Possibly Higher

We already have the values for Top Tiers
 
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Pikaman said:
Low Tier: At least Above Average Human (<124KG) possibly Athletic Human (138KG)

Low-Mid Tier: At least Athletic Human (>138KG), possibly Peak Human (Baseline)

Mid Tier: Peak Human (232.693KG)

High Tier: At least Peak Human (>232.693KG), at most Class 5

We already have the values for Top Tiers
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Fixed it (you should probably replace the Sting feat with Cena lifting Edge and Big Show for the High Tiers).
 
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