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Today i'll be going over a profile that's been bothering me for a while, namely ever since I've seen it, the great Kitsune profile
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/The_Great_Kitsune
now at first glance this may not look too bad but reading carefully over it it has quite the amount of problems which i'll be going over, lets start
Ô׺Plot manipulation
Ô׺Time Manipulation
Ô׺Non-Corporeal
"Memory Manipulation (Also used when Pete and The Spirit Dragon were turned into mortals)"
But where is the proof of such a claim?
Ô׺Fourth Wall Awareness
"Law Manipulation (Can supposedly alter the "rules" of reality itself, although he has not directly demonstrated this)"
Ok this seems to be an argument from assumption, supposedly isn't coherent proof, its specifically taking the notion that supposedly would mean it would, which unless shown to, would be false.
Acausality (Type 4, Celestials have a "subjective" viewpoint on time that is unlinear even to each others)
My Question is why would their subjective View of time make it so they're Unaffected by events dependant of Cause and Effect, this holds zero coherent basis to it logically to follow.
And what would that even to each other part prove as well?
"Regenerationn (Mid-Godly, Can survive attacks that would otherwise completely erase both the body and soul)"
For this to even fit into Regenerationn he would have had to have died from it in the first place yet the profile never implies that he did, it does clarify that two things must have happened A. He outright tanked it or B. he got affected by it yet brushed it off, which through logical deductions is the only thing this segment would imply, speaking nothing about how he regenerated just tanking it.
Immortality (Types 1, 3, 5, and 9. Transcends death on a fundamental level and the afterlife is just a location to him. Furthermore, what we see of his body is merely his manifestation)
Now this isn't too bad HOWEVER, it looks like the only reasoning he quote on quote transcends death is because he sees the afterlife as a location, now seeing it as a location would not in any way shape or form in the absolute slightest means he transcends it, this is like saying i Transcend the world solely because i see it as a location, i may be wrong on this since some of the lining and reasoning looks shady so correct me IF i am.
"At least Multiverse level+ (Along with the other celestials, is capable of treating the entire infinite multiverse as a "game". While it was stated this is a metaphor, his reality warping powers have been implied to extend to all of existence. Exists on a higher level of existence than the multiverse. Views regular reality as "Low Order" reality. In addition, Kitsune is somewhat stronger than the other two "cosmic nerds")"
This Unironically debunks itself when and i quote "While it was stated this is a metaphor" its outright metaphorical and hold no cohesive value to his actual power, now onto the next part "his reality warping powers have been implied to extend to all of existence" heres the thing, it was ONLY implied there is nothing concrete to can say his powers Objecively DO extent to this existence. If he existed on a Higher plane of existence than the Multiverse wouldn't be he inturn be beyond Multiversal+, the tier reasoning itself is not only incoherent but its outright a full blown contradiction, him viewing it as low order also would not debunk it, there needs to be some clarification as to what low order reality means.
Anyway that's all I have to pick at for now, either these abilities should be better substantiated, or removed, since they have generally lackluster reasoning to them (no offense) with little to no evidence at all.
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/The_Great_Kitsune
now at first glance this may not look too bad but reading carefully over it it has quite the amount of problems which i'll be going over, lets start
- >Large Size (Type 10)*
Providing substantiation to this claim would be cohesive to the all around premise this profile is going for namely the ability given lacks any form of proof to back it up, this isn't the only one Multiple other too such as…
Ô׺Plot manipulation
Ô׺Time Manipulation
Ô׺Non-Corporeal
"Memory Manipulation (Also used when Pete and The Spirit Dragon were turned into mortals)"
But where is the proof of such a claim?
Ô׺Fourth Wall Awareness
"Law Manipulation (Can supposedly alter the "rules" of reality itself, although he has not directly demonstrated this)"
Ok this seems to be an argument from assumption, supposedly isn't coherent proof, its specifically taking the notion that supposedly would mean it would, which unless shown to, would be false.
Acausality (Type 4, Celestials have a "subjective" viewpoint on time that is unlinear even to each others)
My Question is why would their subjective View of time make it so they're Unaffected by events dependant of Cause and Effect, this holds zero coherent basis to it logically to follow.
And what would that even to each other part prove as well?
"Regenerationn (Mid-Godly, Can survive attacks that would otherwise completely erase both the body and soul)"
For this to even fit into Regenerationn he would have had to have died from it in the first place yet the profile never implies that he did, it does clarify that two things must have happened A. He outright tanked it or B. he got affected by it yet brushed it off, which through logical deductions is the only thing this segment would imply, speaking nothing about how he regenerated just tanking it.
Immortality (Types 1, 3, 5, and 9. Transcends death on a fundamental level and the afterlife is just a location to him. Furthermore, what we see of his body is merely his manifestation)
Now this isn't too bad HOWEVER, it looks like the only reasoning he quote on quote transcends death is because he sees the afterlife as a location, now seeing it as a location would not in any way shape or form in the absolute slightest means he transcends it, this is like saying i Transcend the world solely because i see it as a location, i may be wrong on this since some of the lining and reasoning looks shady so correct me IF i am.
"At least Multiverse level+ (Along with the other celestials, is capable of treating the entire infinite multiverse as a "game". While it was stated this is a metaphor, his reality warping powers have been implied to extend to all of existence. Exists on a higher level of existence than the multiverse. Views regular reality as "Low Order" reality. In addition, Kitsune is somewhat stronger than the other two "cosmic nerds")"
This Unironically debunks itself when and i quote "While it was stated this is a metaphor" its outright metaphorical and hold no cohesive value to his actual power, now onto the next part "his reality warping powers have been implied to extend to all of existence" heres the thing, it was ONLY implied there is nothing concrete to can say his powers Objecively DO extent to this existence. If he existed on a Higher plane of existence than the Multiverse wouldn't be he inturn be beyond Multiversal+, the tier reasoning itself is not only incoherent but its outright a full blown contradiction, him viewing it as low order also would not debunk it, there needs to be some clarification as to what low order reality means.
Anyway that's all I have to pick at for now, either these abilities should be better substantiated, or removed, since they have generally lackluster reasoning to them (no offense) with little to no evidence at all.
