I think this thread might be a JoJo reference
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Because there is no other alternative. Even if Superman and Jiren existed in the same universe I would STILL question how Superman would even find a younger Jiren. They have no foreknowledge of one another due to SBA so Superman has no real method to find young Jiren within the same universe let alone another universe.LSirLancelotDuLacl said:"People are so desperate" you were OH so close to make that a nice comment and you had to end it in that note.
Word of advice, don't do or say that again. If you have arguments that are sound to refute what someone says, go right ahead. Implying on someone having to bend logic backwards so Superman can win when he's calmly explaining and even providing evidence does not warrant that kind of comment.
Threads with certain characters like Superman really don't warrant that kind of comment, is asking for a derail you do not want in most cases.
That said, it feels a bit too silly that younger Jiren is protected under the umbrella of "not on Earth, on another universe" because of the circumstances, but I can't think of a sensible alternative.
Actually, he has shown he can send people back in time through other means. Like the time he did it Titano , Jimmy Olse (hell, he did it on accident in the first place ) , and when Bizarro did it to him. Hell, that last one literally is combat applicable since it was done in combat. Superman would've easily been BFR'd if he couldn't also travel in time.JackJoyce said:I think there's a few things that need to be addressed
Superman's BFR came from colliding with Superboy sending both of them back in time It's not something useful in combat
Just your typical DB vs DC thread.Xtasyamphetamine said:
I thought in this instance we were under the assumption that they are both in the same universe and under a neutral timeline argument? I remember people saying as such earlier in the thread, though i might be wrong.CryoTheMayo said:Okay but that depends on which time period Superman even goes to (even assuming he can find Jiren's universe which is completely distinct and separate from Superman's multiverse). We don't know how strong Jiren was when he was younger. The only time period he would be vulnerable is child Jiren.
Even so would killing a child Jiren even effect adult Jiren in this instance?
^Zensum said:Yea the Jaxon feat is atleast 2-C lowballing, they decided on the CRT that 2-C+ Supes is an outlier but still put the feat on the profile for some reason and called it low 2-C.
Yes he can time travel and send others through time. But that requires accelerating the person or rotating him. Which I highly doubt Jiren will let him doJared1111 said:Actually, he has shown he can send people back in time through other means. Like the time he did it Titano , Jimmy Olse (hell, he did it on accident in the first place ) , and when Bizarro did it to him. Hell, that last one literally is combat applicable since it was done in combat. Superman would've easily been BFR'd if he couldn't also travel in time.
You can't see the glare dude.EmperorRorepme said:Yeah I still see no reasoning for why Superman cannot just phase through the attacks and then mind hax.
Also the argument that Jiren just senses and glares in his direction is implying that Superman has no time to act at all. Which is flawed. Pre Crisis Superman isn't the type of guy to see an attack devasting everything infront of him and take it all on because pride.
No Jiren's eyes turn red, but the glare is just a glare.EmperorRorepme said:Since when? Isn't it just high-speed ki-blasts? Like when he glared at Blue Goku and he was hit with red ki blasts.
Well I already apologized. No need to make a big fuss about itLSirLancelotDuLacl said:And I don't understand what's your point. A flawed argument doesn't need a comment like that, actually argue why it's flawed instead of needing to directly question the intention of the commenter. That's just being rude with no need at best and asking for a needless problem at worst.
There's a glare which is defensive barrier/attack reflection and another which is ki blasts. Superman might phase through em. But he'll eventually get killed when Jiren will tag him with his punches. Mindhax is a unlikely scenario and I don't think PC Superman has ever done it in between a serious fight. Also I doubt if they works on someone equal/stronger than himEmperorRorepme said:Yeah I still see no reasoning for why Superman cannot just phase through the attacks and then mind hax.
Also the argument that Jiren just senses and glares in his direction is implying that Superman has no time to act at all. Which is flawed. Pre Crisis Superman isn't the type of guy to see an attack devasting everything infront of him and take it all on because pride.