4th 9-B Non Smurf Fight: Corvo Attano Vs Aburatori

[Arcker123]

Corvo Attano Vs Aburatori​

• Both 9-B
• Aburatori doesnt have a calc, so he is baseline 9-B (15 kilojoules)
• Corvo’s AP is thus calc, so 4798.92248 kilojoules
• Speed Equal
• SBA Otherwise

Aburatori: 2 (Lou_change, DontTalkDT)

Corvo Attano: 0

 

[Lou_change]

I say quote DontTalkDT in the main thread they probably know what to do.

 

[DontTalkDT]

Delilah in her last key is smurf, so she is not applicable to the non-smurf list.

 

[Lou_change]

Isn’t that with prep time?

 

[Arcker123]

Delilah in her last key is smurf, so she is not applicable to the non-smurf list.

Can the match continue fairly?

 

[DontTalkDT]

Isn’t that with prep time?

In my understanding only the "higher" is with prep. And her immortality assumes she is fused with a Tier 2 being, which is definitely smurf.

Can the match continue fairly?

Idk, but I can say that I personally don't care about debating Aburatori vs a Tier 2 character.

 

[Lou_change]

ah looks like you’re right my bad

 

[Deceived3596]

Couldn't you just use Delilah's first key? (Or switch her out for Corvo or Emily)

She doesn't have any of the smurf shit in that one i believe.

 

[Arcker123]

Couldn't you just use Delilah's first key? (Or switch her out for Corvo or Emily)

She doesn't have any of the smurf shit in that one i believe.

If I were to use Corvo and he wins or incons, would we put “Characters from dishonored” for the 9-B place as they aren’t really that varied in power (at least for the 9-Bs)?

 

[Deceived3596]

would we put “Characters from dishonored” for the 9-B place

If they have the same (or extremely similar) win-cons as each other then yes.

If they don't then no.

So if, idk for an example Corvo beats someone because of his time-stop and deconstruction, we wouldn't put Emily with him since she doesn't have time-stop and such doesn't have the same win-con as Corvo.

 

[Arcker123]

I think the only dishonored 9-B that can win is Billie Lurk so can we use her? she doesn’t have anything smurfy.

 

[Deceived3596]

I think the only dishonored 9-B that can win is Billie Lurk so can we use her? she doesn’t have anything smurfy.

I believe the Twin-Bladed Knife is a smurf object since it can effect The Outsider and his power (Which is 4-D) with its Conceptual Manipulation.

So i believe you can only use her Dishonored 1 Key.

 

[Arcker123]

Changed it to Corvo. This should work

 

[DontTalkDT]

Corvo gets instantly time paradoxed out of existence

 

[Lou_change]

Can you add links.

 

[Deceived3596]

Corvo gets instantly time paradoxed out of existence

Corvo is resistant towards Time Manipulation.

So he should resist the Time Paradoxing unless its Layered.

Also how is this Time Manipulation activated? is thought-based or is there an action that has to happen for the ability to activate?.

 

[DontTalkDT]

Corvo is resistant towards Time Manipulation.

So he should resist the Time Paradoxing unless its Layered.

Also how is this Time Manipulation activated? is thought-based or is their an action that has to happen for the ability to active?.

Resistance towards time manipulation isn't acausality, so no that doesn't prevent him from getting time paradoxed.

The Aburatori just has to think to have a temporal clone of it travel into the past and make sure Corvo dies before the battle. Since it can corrupt and rewrite the past, it will succeed in that regardless of whether there is a plausible way to achieve it.

 

[Lou_change]

past and make sure Corvo dies before the battle

How is that possible both characters just appeared in Central Park what past do they have in this timeline.

 

[DontTalkDT]

Stuff like the past is equalized so that time travel attacks can work. Of course the time traveling character usually still needs to find his target, but the Aburatori can just skip that step (or succeed in it via destiny manip).

 

[Lou_change]

Stuff like the past is equalized so that time travel attacks can work. Of course the time traveling character usually still needs to find his target, but the Aburatori can just skip that step (or succeed in it via destiny manip).

???? How the does that work I don’t think I ever seen that mentioned before.

 

[DontTalkDT]

???? How the does that work I don’t think I ever seen that mentioned before.

I mean, would you think it's more fair we treat timetravel as a power is just impossible to use in any vs debates as no character is able to travel to a different fiction?
Cases like that are what equalization is for.

Alternatively, 1 second after the fight started the Aburatori can do the same stuff to the past 1 second ago. Same result, really.

 

[Lou_change]

I mean, would you think it's more fair we treat timetravel as a power is just impossible to use in any vs debates as no character is able to travel to a different fiction?
Cases like that are what equalization is for.

Alternatively, 1 second after the fight started the Aburatori can do the same stuff to the past 1 second ago. Same result, really.

I mean you can effectively go back and set traps where they appear but wouldn’t that require at least one form of special senses.

 

[DontTalkDT]

I mean you can effectively go back and set traps where they appear but wouldn’t that require at least one form of special senses.

Hm?
Aburatori doesn't need traps. Aburatori can just do this:

While even with his control over time and space Aburatori could not defeat Yukari and her ability to control destiny, by continuously traveling to the past with one of his doubles and fighting her he tore to shreds the historical data about who won the fight. After over 15,000 repetitions fact and fiction mixed up together, giving the Aburatori free reign over the record of who won the fight and how it ended, allowing him to win, absorb Yukari and obtain her power over destiny despite this being impossible for him to do otherwise.

15k repetitions sounds like a lot, but a time traveler can of course do so instantly.

 

[Lou_change]

Was it implied that they did it instantly was it even planned?

 

[DontTalkDT]

It's a time traveler that fights by having its main body 3 days in the future while the guys in the present fight a clone. And each and every timetravel attempt rewrites the timeline. He did it quickly, but how long is pretty impossible to tell cause time during the attempts wasn't linear. It might have taken long from the Aburatori's perspective, but that is a pointless measure, as after every rewrite anyone else will forget the one before happened, as it will never have happened.
And he knows he can do that, yes. He will also definitely do it, as his destiny manipulation tells him what he needs to do to win.

Seriously, the guy can't do anything against the Aburatori. He can not even find the Youkai, due to its passive ability to sit in a realm that can't be found unless you are destined to find it.
Not to mention that, as mentioned, the Aburatori likes to have the main body in another point in time as the fight happens at anyway.
Worst case the Aburatori can also just create a destiny in which it wins without needing a logical way to achieve it.

 

[Arcker123]

I’ll get to this later today

 

[Lou_change]

Aburatori fra