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Pretty sure we are both just waiting for Yuri to confirm if the predation quote is suitable for Type 1, if it is I'm in agreement for Type 1 Order of Creation and Order.
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Possible Type 1 Conceptual Manipulation upgrade - Maou Gakuin
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I'm not waiting on Yuri. What you've given is enough proof for Type 1 under our current standards.
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Thanks for your input elizhaa-san
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Thanx for reaching this conclusion.
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Thanx for sharing your opinion.
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Which quote is it?
Predation can put you type 1, but all depends on context.
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I think he's referring to this quote
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It is funny, since the order of creation created the world (It existed before reality and the world were created), in the same way that the order of destruction created and maintained the destruction in the world, and in the same way that the HFG created all the orders and both predates what they govern (Exists before all reality, creation, destruction, time, and so on orders were created.)
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I mean is that according to what I understand, the Order of creation disappear at the end of the world.
Do you have scans regarding destruction one ?
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It's okay if order seems to be pretty linked to the world
But not for order of order
It's completely unbounded by the world since he predates the world and the order (who also predates the world)
And didn't affected by the destruction of order and it's object
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The order of creation has not disappeared, it continues to rule over creation, if I understand correctly, the order of creation passed to another god, because if the order of creation disappears, the world would simply cease to exist.
Actually I'm the worst person to ask for scans, sorry, but if I'm not mistaken, a little bit above there were scans that explain about the order of the destruction.
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No, it is already known that the order of creation existed before the world and reality existed, since it was the one who created it.
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I remember there's the scan that said the god of creation recreate the world after it's destruction more than once
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Yes it's , i also the one who send the scan where the order is existed before the world exist tho
I'll bring the scan again for the gods of creation or maybe null has it
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If you had this scan it would prove the order survives end of the world.
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Do you still remain "neutral, leaning towards agreement", or do you now fully agree?
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I think I'll agree unless there's counter arguments.
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So that three Staff for agree then, that should be enough.
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So, Yuri, Qaw, Elizha, and what about you?
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What about https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Graham_(Maou_Gakuin)? Would his scale to the Orders of Creation and Destruction?
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Can someone please summarize the conclusions here
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The Order of Creation and any Orders that scale to or above it is Type 1, and anyone (Anos) who can manipulate them would gain the conceptual manipulation type, based on being Independent of the World.
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Certainly the order of creation and destruction are equal and at the same time opposites, since both created as well as the creation and destruction of the world, but at present no input has been given for the order of destruction to be accepted as type 1, only the order of creation and the order of order.
Possibly Graham should scale too, thanks to the fact that his Befenguzdogma was able was able to contend with venuzdonoa's conceptual attacks
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We don't really need to create a separate CRT for the Order of Destruction. This CRT being accepted makes the Order of Creation Type 1, so any Concept equal to it or above it would be Type 1 as well logically.
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So, Order of Creation, Orden of Destruction and Order of Order would be Type 1, and Graham and Anos would scale to it
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Sounds good, based on the OP, I also agree with the changes
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I want to ask one last thing, as we already gave to explain the difference of the orders of creation and destruction are lower than the order of the order, this would not count as a concept above baseline? or even more if we count the difference between layers?
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Well, the whole Silver Sea layers should be applicable for higher Potency. The Order of Order would probably also count if theirs a clear superiority between it and the Orders of Creation and Destruction.
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