Possible Minecraft Upgrade?

[MrWarnerTheGreat]

A friend, known as Miss X, did a little calc for Steve/Alex. I'll link it:http://aminoapps.com/p/cd82q4 so I don't know if this will get accepted or not, and I can care less for Minecraft in general. This could also open up the possibility of creative mode being a key for Steve.

 

[Sir-Gonartch]

Don't see anything wrong with it, except for the fact it uses a video from 2011

Even then, the strength of the obsidian is undeniable so the calc still holds up.

 

[MrWarnerTheGreat]

Bump

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

Are you saying Town Level Steve/ender Dragon/Wither are coming back? Great!

 

[The_Impress]

You can contact the following users for input:

Saikou The Lewd King, Mr. Bambu, Crabwhale, GyroNutz and other members listed in The Minecraft section of the Knowledgeable Members List

Alongside that, You can likely contact a Calculations Group Member to verify the Calculation in question

 

[Soupywolf5]

Are you saying Town Level Steve/ender Dragon/Wither are coming back? Great!

FTFY

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

Why?

 

[Soupywolf5]

All those characters used to be Town Level but were then downgraded (I don't remember what exactly happened though)

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

Oh! I thought mid-Game Steve was town tevel,not the high tiers.

 

[Davidgumazon]

All those characters used to be Town Level but were then downgraded (I don't remember what exactly happened though)

Well @Idazmi was the one who made CRT because he uses hard mode and hit points to his calc which literally nerfed the AP instead of upgrading AP (argument with a game mechanic) cuz my point is it should the hardmore increases damage not reduced. So @DeathstroketheHedgehog explained the Ender Dragon's AP flaws in detail and whilst he refuting @Idazmi's argument. It's slightly controversial and tiring debate.

 

[DeathstroketheHedgehog]

Calc is flawed and incorrect.

An explosion power of 285 is needed to destroy obsidian, not 285 blocks of tnt. Minecraft TNT alone already has an explosion power of 4.

It'd best to calc obsidian durability the same way we calced the explosion power of Creepers and TNT, stone fragmentation. I've calced obsidian to be 8-A+, so in my personal opinion, Minecraft top tiers would peak at 8-A+ or Low 7-C.

The bedrock calculation is flawed as well, but it doesn't matter since the wiki already has bedrock/command blocks at moon level (which I've been trying to downgrade to Large Country level for a while now.)

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

At least it is an Upgrade

 

[Soupywolf5]

How do we know that calc wasn't flawed? OvO

 

[MrWarnerTheGreat]

Calc is flawed and incorrect.

An explosion power of 285 is needed to destroy obsidian, not 285 blocks of tnt. Minecraft TNT alone already has an explosion power of 4.

It'd best to calc obsidian durability the same way we calced the explosion power of Creepers and TNT, stone fragmentation. I've calced obsidian to be 8-A+, so in my personal opinion, Minecraft top tiers would peak at 8-A+ or Low 7-C.

So then could we upgrade the player to that?

 

[The_Impress]

Has anyone contacted the users I listed yet? This CRT won't proceed otherwise

 

[MrWarnerTheGreat]

Has anyone contacted the users I listed yet? This CRT won't proceed otherwise

I did

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

So uh no.

Like said before, the Obsidian feat isn't done through through just blowing up TNTs (as that's impossible) but through commands, creating artificial explosions. I'm not sure if we can treat it as legit (commands being non-canon) and even then we'd need to calculate the explosion directly, not just assume that a power of 1 is a ton of TNT.

The Bedrock calc also doesn't work. Placing TNTs everywhere doesn't make the Bedrock survive petatons of energy, it makes the Bedrock survive 1 TNT explosion. It's just a lot of explosions, not a big one with an epicenter.

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

The entities did talk about code and commands

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

Calc is flawed and incorrect.
An explosion power of 285 is needed to destroy obsidian, not 285 blocks of tnt. Minecraft TNT alone already has an explosion power of 4.

It'd best to calc obsidian durability the same way we calced the explosion power of Creepers and TNT, stone fragmentation. I've calced obsidian to be 8-A+, so in my personal opinion, Minecraft top tiers would peak at 8-A+ or Low 7-C.

The bedrock calculation is flawed as well, but it doesn't matter since the wiki already has bedrock/command blocks at moon level (which I've been trying to downgrade to Large Country level for a while nowse this?

Can we use this?

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

The Entities talked about codes in general, not the creative mode commands specifically.

Also the calc above still relies on commands to be executed. If commands are not canon there is no way to know the amount of energy required to destroy obsidian.

 

[Bowser-us]

...If commands are not canon there is no way to know the amount of energy required to destroy obsidian.

if so, then the calculation of this moment will not be canon?

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

Probably

 

[KGiffoni]

470 tons is 8-A tho

 

[Davidgumazon]

Like said before, the Obsidian feat isn't done through through just blowing up TNTs (as that's impossible) but through commands, creating artificial explosions. I'm not sure if we can treat it as legit (commands being non-canon) and even then we'd need to calculate the explosion directly, not just assume that a power of 1 is a ton of TNT.

Also the calc above still relies on commands to be executed. If commands are not canon there is no way to know the amount of energy required to destroy obsidian.

Meanwhile many people just agree to Bedrock can be destroyed by artificial explosion.

The Bedrock calc also doesn't work. Placing TNTs everywhere doesn't make the Bedrock survive petatons of energy, it makes the Bedrock survive 1 TNT explosion. It's just a lot of explosions, not a big one with an epicenter.

I gonna wrote my rant: Bedrock CANNOT BE DESTROYED unless anyone going to use game mechanics: hit points and inconsistent TNT explosion and TNT explosion interaction with the blocks filled with inconsistency and the difference between breaking and explosion fallacy. It's frustrating just how many people disregard the explosion hit points fallacy and favored the gameplay.

And honestly Obsidian and other blocks never change until now: src1 and src2 (By this logic it can opposed the "there is no way to know the amount of energy required to destroy obsidian" logic. If it stays like this even the later versions, basically blame Mojang why they never change it, so people would treat it as either canon or non-canon based on their perspective)

So how people gonna deal with debate related to explosion hit points and standard hit points, breaking and blast resistance difference?

(Note: breaking can't destroy indestructible blocks while blast resistance could break indestructible blocks.)

(My other frustration: I'm also a bit mad at Mojang cuz no update related to "better than diamonds" and "cave update" so I HOPE MOJANG SHOULD ADD Minecraft: Dungeons weapons to standard Minecraft cuz the new blocks in Minecraft such as Smithing Tables and Fletching tables are likely to add things from Dungeons to Vanilla, just my assumption because I've heard Smithing Tables and Fletching tables wasn't functional yet and Mojang is likely adding new combat mechanics and weapons so I draw my assumption like these)

The Entities talked about codes in general, not the creative mode commands specifically.

Good Point. I agree with that conclusion.