Possible Kaguya Ohtsutsuki Upgrade?

[DocMindstorm]

The Boruto Movie Novelization confirmed that Kaguyas realms are parellel worlds "Kaguya had held the power of sending people into parallel worlds too… Is this something like a kekkai, or a subspace?". This debunks the idea that Kaguya simply switched different parts of the planet with the contents of her pocket realms. For further proof,

- We can clearly see that the planet they are on is not earth (from the official colored manga)

- When Kaguya was sealed, a new moo was created. In The Last: Naruto the Movie @21:43, we can clearly see that the earth does not have two moons. So the planet Kaguya was sealed on cannot be earth

- Obito says that Kaguya's parellel worlds are similar to the Kamui Dimension (1)(2) (3)which is seperate realm, and that they are much further away from the universe than the Kamui dimension. Again confirming that it's a parellel world.

Kaguyas parellel worlds have outer space, in one of Kaguyas parellel worlds we can see sun rays. As Kaguya's parellel worlds have outer space, the sun rays are obviously coming from a Star, not holes in a firmament. Which means that Kaguyas parellel worlds are at least the size of a small Solar System because they have a Star . So Kaguya's Expansive Truthseeker Orb is Low Solar System Level as it was going to destroy one of her parellel worldsand start a new time-space.

The parellel dimension that Momoshiki made "He was even draining the chakra that was beyond the parallel dimension he'd made" has a star "Aa. He plans to indiscriminately eat up all of this star's chakra.". Kaguya is objectively stronger than Momoshiki, because Momoshiki hasn't eaten a god fruit, thats what he was trying to do. Momoshiki also doesn't have a rinne-sharingan, or his own chakra. Naruto is set up for a part 3, the one stronger than Kaguya has yet to appear. So also via power-scaling Kaguya is Small Solar System Level

The Boruto Movie script was co-written by Masashi Kishimoto and Ukyo Kodachi. Ukyo Kodachi turned the script for the Boruto Movie into a novel, which means the novel is very much canon.

Considering that Kaguya can create new parellel worlds (time-space), it's fairly obvious that Kaguya created her 6 parellel worlds

What are your thoughts?

 

[Non-Bias]

I always knew that she created her dimensions, but I never knew how big they were until I saw the Moon in her ice dimension, which actually does suggest that she had a Solar System since the first time we saw the ice dimension it was clearly in the day instead of night. This seems legit in my opinion, but boy it just doesn't seem right that a HST character is capable of this much lol.

 

[DocMindstorm]

Agreed, im about to post a Momoshiki thread too

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

In these situations, it could also be due to the sun being created as an illusion of sorts on the wall of the dimension, like with BRS' otherworld, as creating a whole new sun just to have light seems a bit dumb, especiallly since no others characters have shown such feats.

 

[CHILLVIBEZZ]

^Her dimensions have planets so why wouldn't it make sense.A character cannot be based off lower characters she's the God of the verse no matter the gap in power her feats and showings should remain factual and essential .

 

[The_Everlasting]

Because of things like Naruto obliterating her hand. Like Saikou said, it could just be an illusion of solar rays. By this logic, base Aizen is Star level for creating sunlight hor Hueco Mundo.

Plus it makes no sense that Hagoromo and Hamura could seal her away if she was Solar System level and they're both Moon level.

 

[CHILLVIBEZZ]

Aizen did not create hueco mundo .Kaguya created a whole dimension which has a planet or something.So that isn't comparable.

Sealing a character isn't based off of durability to begin with and Hagoromo is moon level in his death bed without Juubi. Also if Naruto used a move that bypasses durability than it makes sense if not than her durability stays the same .But her creating a parallel world is by no means an outlier.

 

[The_Everlasting]

He created sun rays for it. Which, by this logic makes him Star level.

Naruto just used a direct attack and obliterated Kaguya's hand. And if Kaguya was really Solar System level, she would kill Hagoromo and Hamura with a very simple attack and would not have lost to them.

 

[CHILLVIBEZZ]

Creating sun Ray =/= parallel world

Makes no sense do think that Aizen is weaker than Ichigo and urahara because they sealed him ? Yeah...no

If so then she has lower durability that simple however I reread it and he didn't destroy her hand just cut it off.

 

[The_Everlasting]

You're not getting it. Aizen created sunlight for Hueco Mundo, Kaguya created sunlight for the parallel world she created. They both imply there being a sun, but it doesn't make sense.

They obviously had to fight Kaguya to imprison her. It's not like she would just stand there and let herself be sealed.

Same thing. It doesn't matter anyway because having sunlight Ôëá there being a sun.

 

[CHILLVIBEZZ]

Kaguya has never been stated to have created sun light her dimension just has it.If her dimension is indeed a parallel world than how is that not a sun?

No attacks from Naruto and Sasuke managed to fatally wound her she brushing everything off.If they truly were even close to on par with her than they wouldn't resort to sealing her in the first place.

 

[The_Everlasting]

Because it could just be a planet. And if she created a new dimension, the sun rays would have to come from somewhere, but it does not imply there being a sun in that dimension.

They still cut off her hand.

 

[CHILLVIBEZZ]

It can't be a planet if it's the world is parallel to ours....

And? They still can't kill her and need to seal her.

 

[The_Everlasting]

Umm... why?

The fact that they still damaged her is enough.

 

[CHILLVIBEZZ]

Well uh by definition it being parallel is enough.

Nothing that would pose a threat to her.

 

[The_Everlasting]

Umm... how? It could still be a single planet.

Except, y'know, cutting off her hand.

 

[CHILLVIBEZZ]

It's parallel to ours meaning that within it . The world must contain a star somewhere.And it having sun rays pretty much says so.

Uh ok.

 

[The_Everlasting]

I don't see how it being parallel means it has to have a star. And Aizen created sun rays for Hueco Mundo, but he's only City level.

If she was Solar System level, she would have just one-shot Naruto and Sasuke.

 

[CHILLVIBEZZ]

the world is parallel and the Aizen example has become invalid.

Based off of what? She wanted to take back her chakra from them .....

 

[The_Everlasting]

How??? He created the sun rays, which by this logic created a sun.

Because Solar System level >>>>>> Multi-Continent level.

 

[CHILLVIBEZZ]

That honestly doesn't disprove anything don't know why you're mentioning it.

True and she wanted back her chakra.If she killed them she wouldn't acquire it.

 

[The_Everlasting]

Because Aizen created sun rays for Hueco Mundo, and there are sun rays in Kaguya's dimension.

Exactly how hard would it be for her to take it?

 

[CHILLVIBEZZ]

But Kaguyas dimension is a parallel world tho...

Not sure .

 

[The_Everlasting]

Still don't see how that matters.

 

[CHILLVIBEZZ]

It's parallel to ours.And has its own planet....

 

[The_Everlasting]

Then why would it have a sun?

 

[Non-Bias]

Where's the actual manga statement that said Aizen created sun rays or is this simply speculation? Kaguya created whole worlds according to Kishimoto. These worlds have a day and night cycle with an actual outer space as we've seen in the movie and manga. Why is it so hard to believe that she created a Solar System given these facts?

 

[CHILLVIBEZZ]

It being parallel to theirs.

 

[DeezNuts1102]

Okay, it seems reasonable, But we need inputs from the staff

 

[Quincy_King]

Outlier

 

[Valar_Melkor_2]

How is this an outlier?

 

[Quincy_King]

No Character in th series produced Star-Large Star level attacks, thats why its an outleir...

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

Because the max we got for Naruto is Planet Level. Jumping the shark to SS Level seems a bit for a stretch.

 

[CHILLVIBEZZ]

We didn't know about the size of her dimension so we just worked on what we had which is a planet whitin it of course the argument that sun Ray doesn't equate to sun as shown by Aizen"s feat was stated just however it's now confirmed to be a parallel world so....

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

Dude, Parrel World means nothing. It's just your usual fancy word for pocket world like Dimensions or things like that.

 

[CHILLVIBEZZ]

Nah not necessarily it has a planet in it of itself and parallel does mean well parallel.The world is parallel to theirs .

 

[DocMindstorm]

@QuincyKing

Momoshiki was going to eat a star in the Boruto Movie Novelization "Aa. He plans to indiscriminately eat up all of this star's chakra.". Momoshiki also created an "absolute zero degree blizzard", from what i understand, that is easily Star Level.

Outlier is a term wrongly used on this wiki. An outlier is Spiderman beating Firelord without gaining any new power. An outlier is not Shinonome Azama going from 8-C to 2-C. You can only call it an outlier if no new power is introduced. In the case of Kaguya, Expansive Truthseeker Orb was introduced.

 

[Ryuuzakiscorpio]

"In one of Kaguyas parallel worlds, we can see sun rays. This confirms that Kaguyas parallel worlds are at least the size of a Solar System because they have a Sun."-Quoted.

Soul Society has sun rays and day and night cycle, does that means that it has a solar system or a Planet by your standers here in this Wiki? No. Even when you are comparing the Seireitei with Soul Society which are two different things.

If they are comparable to the Kamui dimension shouldn't that mean that they don't have a real solar system? It could be just an illusion or something like a painted wall.

I don't remember the Kamui dimension been that big at all.

 

[CHILLVIBEZZ]

No because as it was mentioned Aizen created a tower to get sunlight.Not valid

Her world is confirmed parallel to theirs so also not valid.

The grasping is heavy we got official confirmation.

So unless you have arguments as to why not that are even applicable in this case then this is pointless.

 

[Ryuuzakiscorpio]

You know that you're speculating since there's nowhere in the manga that explains how Aizen created Sunlight. So, no he didn't use a tower. Unless you can proof otherwise. Show scans to back up your claims.