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Magikarp, wishiwashi and baby pokemonDark649 said:
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Pokémon Trainer Revisions
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Yet vivillion is an early game mon, like maybe between basic and second but defintly second stage .
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Then perhaps Vivilion should be upgraded.
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by that logic, we should dowgrade Gyrados, or upgrade magneton, who evolves at level 30, or god helps us with lvl 59 volcarona.Dark649 said:
8-A should apply for early bug as it those with early birds or other mons, with Beedrill and butterfree being Likely Low 7-B
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Or the pokemon potrayed as being on comparable grounds with basic pokemon scales to just said pokemon .
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I agree with Aiden here. I really need to get with downgrading those two...
In fact, I'll do it now.
In fact, I'll do it now.
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Aw so Gyrados is getting hit by the downgrade stick now?
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No.ProfessorKukui4Life said:
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Naming the profiles for the first stage normally drives off viewers, and detracts from the scale of the Pokémon. People check out the profile for the Charizards and Sceptiles, not the Charmanders and Treekos.
Also, making the previous stages just takes too much time. I don't do it unless I'm using it as a basis for other Pokemon (like I did for Roserade), the previous form is just as popular, if not more (ex: Togepi, Psyduck, Pikachu, Jigglypuff), they have weird scaling (Porygo is the closest example), or they're the reason for the tier (like Rhyhor, and as of now, Pidgey)
Also, making the previous stages just takes too much time. I don't do it unless I'm using it as a basis for other Pokemon (like I did for Roserade), the previous form is just as popular, if not more (ex: Togepi, Psyduck, Pikachu, Jigglypuff), they have weird scaling (Porygo is the closest example), or they're the reason for the tier (like Rhyhor, and as of now, Pidgey)
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Wow wow wow, hold on! Don't you guys think you might be jumping the gun here? I mean what ACTUAL reason has any one given that Butterfree should be downgraded out side of "they evolve at an earlier level" and why should that warent a downgrade? It sounds like a game mechanic to me.Darkanine said:
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They're pretty consistently depicted as being pretty weak in the anime, manga and games. I think a few Bug Catchers even describe them as weak for fully evolved Pokemon or something along those lines.
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erm, they dont fight stonger enemies whitout trainers and they are scaled because of evolution. they dont naturaly fight enemies strong enough to warrant that levelLandon Avery said:
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Yes but they CAN still fight the higher teirs. Can they at least get a "Possibly High 6-C"?Darkanine said:
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8-A is way too big of a downgrade for fully evolved bugs. That's even lower than Mid-Stages. I vastly prefer Low 7-B for them.
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Low 7-B or 8-A, either is fine by me.
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^ this.
For example, Giovanni has a High 6-C Beedrill. One chick in an anime episode has a Magikarp that's of that level too. And there's the obvious answer of Ash's Pikachu. Heck, Red (in Origins) has a 5-B Mega Charizard X.
For example, Giovanni has a High 6-C Beedrill. One chick in an anime episode has a Magikarp that's of that level too. And there's the obvious answer of Ash's Pikachu. Heck, Red (in Origins) has a 5-B Mega Charizard X.
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Why would Giovanni keep a Beedrill if it wasn't as strong as the rest of his team? He's not a very sentamental guy.The real cal howard said:
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all the other points stand landon
and because hes overall stupid (no offense to fans)
and because hes overall stupid (no offense to fans)
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Yeah, and a trained Butterfree should scale to it.Dark649 said:
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Ah, bullshit. I don't think he got where he is by being stupid.Ricsi-viragosi said:
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they pages arent for trained ones, as a trained pokemon can wary on power and skillsetLandon Avery said:
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is in a world where kids are allowed to capture and train pokemon with no repercussions.... goes on to steal pokemon getting unwilling and not all thatb trained ones despite a kid training them up to they stongest in monthsLandon Avery said:
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It shouldn't be too surprising that people in the pokemon world are much stronger than humans on Earth.
In Pokemon lore, it's possible that humans and Pokemon were once one and the same and split off during Evolution.
Pokemon trainers take huge damage and survive like their Pokemon.
Some Trainers have been shown to have psychic powers, and there was a story about a boy turning into an Abra/Kadabra.
In Pokemon lore, it's possible that humans and Pokemon were once one and the same and split off during Evolution.
Pokemon trainers take huge damage and survive like their Pokemon.
Some Trainers have been shown to have psychic powers, and there was a story about a boy turning into an Abra/Kadabra.
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Yeah, and a trained Butterfree should scale to it.
No, because I can train my Butterfree and reach 7-A, while other trainer could reach High 6-C or even higher with a Breedrill or another Buttefree, trained by A =/= Trained by B
No, because I can train my Butterfree and reach 7-A, while other trainer could reach High 6-C or even higher with a Breedrill or another Buttefree, trained by A =/= Trained by B
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and what about stats? for pokemon to get all moves theyre stats are somewhat lower, as they hold back theyre evolution. i mean, not in stats, but it should mean a small decrease in power
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Their also ment to be for the best of each speises. The fact that it's possible AT ALL for them to be that strong should be enough.Ricsi-viragosi said:
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but they do not become like that consistatly as they change between specimen.Landon Avery said:
one has better atk or better speed. zou dont mash them up into one
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if you did you could have a magickarp stomp a charizard at level 1``
they pages are for theyre wild stats.
they pages are for theyre wild stats.
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What's going on here?
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discussing why butterfree shouldent be tier 6Dragonmasterxyz said:
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Even though she should be.Ricsi-viragosi said:
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even though absolutely no feats show that it should be near the tier 6.
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Pretty sure we all disagree with Butterfree scaling to fully evolved mons.
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