Pokémon Thread: Eternatus Edition

[Ionliosite]

Anniversary of what?

 

[Overlord775]

Twilight Wings is quite good tho

 

[NeoZex6399]

 

[Ionliosite]

Should I put G-Max Orbeetle against Negi Springfield and The Second Christ for a spot on the strongest thread?

 

[Robot972]

I suppose so, though is Orbeetle really the strongest option?

 

[Ionliosite]

I'm asking because of its mindhax. So far, the only Pokémon on the list is Mega Alakazam, so I believe that reasoning can work.

 

[Robot972]

Yeah, I guess so. Go right ahead

 

[Ionliosite]

Ok, The Second Christ vs Orbeetle: https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/4056795

 

[Ionliosite]

Guys, to what level is Orbeetle's mindhax potency?

 

[Robot972]

We don't really know. We just have that one vague pokedex entry.

If it were to utilize every last bit of its power, it could control the minds of every living being in its vicinity.

 

[Ionliosite]

So it at least is passive(?) or something like that I get from the dex.

 

[Robot972]

If it were to utilize every last bit of its power

Not passive

 

[GyroNutz]

Vicinity is usually describing something fairly close by. I doubt that would be more impressive than Drowzee's amped mindhax feat, or (iirc) Aegislash's kingdom mindhax statement

 

[00potato]

Vicinity is usually describing something fairly close by. I doubt that would be more impressive than Drowzee's amped mindhax feat, or (iirc) Aegislash's kingdom mindhax statement

It is still impressive considering the size of this lad.

 

[Robot972]

Given Orbeetle's size, I'd probably say vicinity means like 30-40 meters

 

[00potato]

That is actually a lot of people most likely if we highball (considering that it is with all of it's power and the Drowsee feat we can.)

 

[GyroNutz]

Since it's the main location of the game, I think a reasonable assumption would be that G-Max Orbeetle could mindhax an entire, full stadium.

 

[Robot972]

So, ~100 meters?

 

[GyroNutz]

Around that yeah

 

[Robot972]

Got it

 

[Robot972]

I was working on Galarian Corsola… How are we tiering Cursola?

I ask because of these couple comments

 

[Everything12]

IF the Creation Trio's Avatars Infinite Speed is axed, do we have anything to link their Speed to the Light Trio and Ultra Beasts Speed?

 

[GyroNutz]

Why would the avatar's infinite speed be axed? Even Primal Dialga has an infinite speed feat.

 

[NeoZex6399]

In ORAS we find Dialga in a dimension where time is stopped.

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

The Timeless void page is likely getting removed, because DB Heroes actually meets the Standard for infinite speed.

 

[PlozAlcachaz]

It most likely will be so they'd probably just be "At least Massively FTL+" or something like that

 

[GyroNutz]

Temporal Tower, where Dialga's avatar generally resides, is located within a gap in time. Essentially there is zero time in the Hidden Land and Temporal Tower, which is also probably why Temporal Tower is readily accessible when time gets paralysed in the future.

 

[Everything12]

As mentioned the Infinite Speed would be axed if Timeless Void giving Infinite Speed is axed, so the only way they would keep Infinite Speed was if they had a Infinite Speed feat and not moving in a Timeless location feat.

 

[Overlord775]

IF Infinite speed gets axed they would scale to the Alolians throught being the absolute god tiers of the verse

 

[The_King_of_Prudence]

Caitlin (Pokémon) lists reacting to her Pokemon as plot-induced stupidity, but aren't all trainers able to command their Pokemon in real time?

 

[Robot972]

Catlin lists reacting to her Pokemon as plot-induced stupidity, but aren't all trainers able to command their Pokemon in real time?

I don't see how it would be plot-induced stupidity. Trainers command their Pokémon to dodge the lightning or solar beams or whatever. The speed of light doesn't just suddenly slow down to allow trainers to react

 

[Overlord775]

ye, that's very dumb, we even have a lot of showings of trainers going toe-to-toe against pokemons

 

[The_King_of_Prudence]

Time to upgrade people.

 

[00potato]

How did anyone think that was PIS?

 

[Everything12]

Because people on this site would much prefer to downgrade Pokémon speed for trainers reacting to them instead of upgrading the trainers.

 

[00potato]

Of course, the way we handle this franchise still confuses me.

 

[Robot972]

The way a lot of franchises are handled on here confuses me...

 

[The_King_of_Prudence]

Because people on this site would much prefer to downgrade Pokémon speed for trainers reacting to them instead of upgrading the trainers.

What people prefer is of little importance.

 

[NeoZex6399]

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[Ionliosite]

Gamefreak truly knows no limits.