Pokemon God Tiers: 2-A is kinda wack.

[The_Yellow_Topaz]

And guess what? All of the space of the Pokemon cosmology is a "sky." You're not objectively correct as you claim

You need to use unrelated evidence for this to even make any sense. A sky is a sky, it mentioned the stars, can you stop being actively dishonest? Pointing out a contextual evidence from a different game 300 years before the fact isn't changing that. If we ignore common sense, ignore the fact a regular person is not reliable, and ignore the fact the person has no established knowledge on the grand multiverse, ignore the simplicity of making a poetry about life on a night sky being a common practice of poetry artists, THEN my objectivity starts to crumble a little bit.

I'm honestly sick of this charade of lacking common sense just to forceful entertain mindless debates, I'm unfollowing, idc what happens to this thread anymore.

 

[Iamunanimousinthat]

I will way in on this as well later.

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

I'm honestly sick of this charade of lacking common sense just to forceful entertain mindless debates, I'm unfollowing, idc what happens to this thread anymore.

The sheer arrogance.

 

[StrymULTRA]

I'm honestly sick of this charade of lacking common sense just to forceful entertain mindless debates, I'm unfollowing, idc what happens to this thread anymore.

Alright I am reporting.

 

[The_Yellow_Topaz]

I will way in on this as well later.

Seeing what you've argued for in the past, honestly, take over completely.

 

[CloverDragon03]

I'm honestly sick of this charade of lacking common sense just to forceful entertain mindless debates, I'm unfollowing, idc what happens to this thread anymore.

You asked for civility and couldn't even give it back...

Welp, off to the RVR thread-

Edit: Ninja'd

 

[Eseseso]

You need to use unrelated evidence for this to even make any sense. A sky is a sky, it mentioned the stars, can you stop being actively dishonest? Pointing out a contextual evidence from a different game 300 years before the fact isn't changing that. If we ignore common sense, ignore the fact a regular person is not reliable, and ignore the fact the person has no established knowledge on the grand multiverse, ignore the simplicity of making a poetry about life on a night sky being a common practice of poetry artists, THEN my objectivity starts to crumble a little bit.

I'm honestly sick of this charade of lacking common sense just to forceful entertain mindless debates, I'm unfollowing, idc what happens to this thread anymore.

Wow, so classy.

Disagree with OP.

 

[Thelastmlg]

I'm pretty there are some 2-B verses that would become 2-A if we treat Endless as Infinite tho

i mean, does it really matter if they do? is not like our indexing would affect their story, so them getting an upgrade would be nothing at the end of the day besides allowing them to fight more profiles here

 

[Stryker861]

I guess thats a concession then?

 

[BasedNecoScaler69]

blah blah OP uses too much opinions and assumptions in their argument blah blah i disagree

 

[ImmortalDread]

Dread, can you stop calling everyone delusional, dishonest and absurdist just because they're disagreeing with you?

Next I am reporting you.

What-

 

[The_Yellow_Topaz]

Reminding that you need to wait two days before reaching a conclusion, the disagreeing side was OVERWHELMINGLY faster to respond than any potential agreeing side, so don't think about closing this instantly.

 

[Stryker861]

What-

Minato level mental debuff

 

[ImmortalDread]

After reading Clover's argument once again, and seeing the evidences, I also change my vote to disagreement with the same reasons as Strym and Clover.

 

[Thelastmlg]

nah, before doing...that...they at least have points regarding how reliant on interpretation and translation we are, tbh they have a point regarding the sky analogy, i feel like we are mashing definitions a lot on that poetry piece, i don't think it debunks 2-A as a whole but it makes that reasoning dubious

i feel like, if 2-A were to stay beyond likely or possibly, we would need to list every reasoning for it, including the translations and raws, given how controversial they are

for instance, can someone confirm if some translation director stated that the english stuff added fits the story, which sniper brought up the arceus threads?

 

[BasedNecoScaler69]

Reminding that you need to wait two days before reaching a conclusion, the disagreeing side was OVERWHELMINGLY faster to respond than any potential agreeing side, so don't think about closing this instantly.

you basically just posted a concession

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

Reminding that you need to wait two days before reaching a conclusion, the disagreeing side was OVERWHELMINGLY faster to respond than any potential agreeing side, so don't think about closing this instantly.

I wouldn't let it. We don't have enough disagreements anyway.

 

[The_Yellow_Topaz]

You asked for civility and couldn't even give it back...

Welp, off to the RVR thread-

Edit: Ninja'd

This was the second post on my ******* thread...

You should go back at giving your horrible takes on Undertale, I am debunking this REAL SOON.

Strym is proposedly provocative to cause a reaction

 

[CloverDragon03]

This was the second post on my ******* thread...



Strym is proposedly provocative to cause a reaction

Both of you are going to the slammer dw

 

[Ped2018]

I'm honestly sick of this charade of lacking common sense just to forceful entertain mindless debates, I'm unfollowing, idc what happens to this thread anymore.

@Nostredam is this you?

 

[BasedNecoScaler69]

I wouldn't let it. We don't have enough disagreements anyway.

If the op doesn't even want to argue in their own thread, whats the point?

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

This was the second post on my ******* thread...



Strym is proposedly provocative to cause a reaction

And he got warned. You kept going on a tantrum despite also being warned. It all falls on you.

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

If the op doesn't even want to argue in their own thread, whats the point?

Other peeps are allowed to argue as well.

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

Topaz didn't really insult anyone too harshly tho
"Lacking common sense" is pretty tame, personally speaking

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

Topaz didn't really insult anyone too harshly tho
"Lacking common sense" is pretty tame

The problem is ignoring the warning.

 

[CloverDragon03]

Topaz didn't really insult anyone too harshly tho
"Lacking common sense" is pretty tame, personally speaking

No, this is clearly insulting the intelligence of people who dare to disagree with her, plus ignoring a warning to settle down

 

[CBslayeR]

i love when people immediately start personally insulting people for trying to downgrade their favorite verse, i sure wonder why nobody likes to make downgrade crts half the time

 

[The_Yellow_Topaz]

And he got warned. You kept going on a tantrum despite also being warned. It all falls on you.

Sure.

No, this is clearly insulting the intelligence of people who dare to disagree with her, plus ignoring a warning to settle down

This is overblowing the situation, read the message which was attatched to this. I am talking about how you are actively ignoring common sense to argue about a very unlikely interpretation of a piece of evidence. It's not a general attack on anyone, or any group.

 

[BasedNecoScaler69]

Hell, the existence of ultraspace alone debunks the op's argument, i dont even need a wall of text, an infinite space with an infinite amount of wormholes, each hole leading to a different universe

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

Hell, the existence of ultraspace alone debunks the op's argument, i dont even need a wall of text, an infinite space with an infinite amount of wormholes, each hole leading to a different universe

That's a good point

 

[Thelastmlg]

Hell, the existence of ultraspace alone debunks the op's argument, i dont even need a wall of text, an infinite space with an infinite amount of wormholes, each hole leading to a different universe

there is a problem with that actually, ultra space being infinite relies on there being infinite universes to begin with

it should still be "countless 3-A" due to countless universes being the minimun, but still

 

[CBslayeR]

yall want my take? we should stop doing composites for pokemon in general, it's a genuine miracle the verse itself didn't get nuked with all the other comp profiles

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

yall want my take? we should stop doing composites for pokemon in general, it's a genuine miracle the verse itself didn't get nuked with all the other comp profiles

you are very late to the party, huh

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

there is a problem with that actually, ultra space being infinite relies on there being infinite universes to begin with

it should still be "countless 3-A" due to countless universes being the minimun, but still

Ain't Ultra Space a universe? It'd be Infinite with the "Infinite Space" Palkia statement

 

[Thelastmlg]

yall want my take? we should stop doing composites for pokemon in general, it's a genuine miracle the verse itself didn't get nuked with all the other comp profiles

we are, is the "canon split" or "cross scaling split" thing, it just wasn't worked on yet, but the tier 2 stuff is unaffected due to the anime, manga and game sharing canons as alternate timelines, only non-legendary and lesser legendary pokémon would be affected

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

yall want my take? we should stop doing composites for pokemon in general, it's a genuine miracle the verse itself didn't get nuked with all the other comp profiles

We're actually de-compositing Pokemon right now, the process of doing so is going to take around 7 years tho (According to my source)

 

[Thelastmlg]

Ain't Ultra Space a universe? It'd be Infinite with the "Infinite Space" Palkia statement

oh yeah sure, i think so

 

[CBslayeR]

that's too based though so im gonna get called stupid and threatened for dare making their favorite verse not gorillions of times universal

you are very late to the party, huh

wait yall are based, ignore what i said above

 

[Angelzewolf]

I'm not going to argue for or against 2-A. But I am curious as to why the line in question is being given the highest possible interpretation. Reading it, it just seems like pretty typical poetry. Not something actually talking about an entire 2-A cosmology.

 

[BestMGQScalerEver]

Reminding that you need to wait two days before reaching a conclusion, the disagreeing side was OVERWHELMINGLY faster to respond than any potential agreeing side, so don't think about closing this instantly.

Overwhelming disagrees or just enough in general with little to no agrees dont need 48 hours. Only accepted threads do.