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Because while I despise Pokemon this thread wasn't exactly concluded
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Pokemon Downgrade: 3-C and High 3-A are outliers
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Literally no need to, especially when them scaling to the feat being an outier was counted as it was supported from more context and all the other feats being done reaaaaaly casually.
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Actually, i think the argument could actually be said that Mewtwo X scaling to Zygarde is the outlier
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And like everything else done here, that would be bullshit too.
It’s what strym said. This thread has been countered to hell and back and there’s literally nothing else to be said or done here. The threads finished.
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Based on literally what lmao, when Mega Mewtwo from itself has no feats except scaling, nor anti feats against him scaling from Zygarde.
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Mewtwo actually has MUCH LESS ground for it not no be outlier
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Pretty much, someone just close this, is just embarrassing.
Why tho
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actually, there's the fact Mega Mewtwo Y is equal to the Red Genesect, who is below people who's best feats are High 6-A, and the fact it, M-Ray and Deoxys are protrayed as equals in PMD and all there were needed to held off the planet falling into the sun (No, they don't scale to Dark Matter, as it was focused on killing the Three of Life and the instant that was dealt with it murdered the three pokemons in an instant)
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And of course you have to try and loop hole your way into something else in order to keep this shitty desperate outlier defense going.
No, their “best feats” aren’t High 6-A as already explained here more than once. They are casual.
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Reshiram High 6-A feat is casual, so what?
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@ProfessorKukui4Life @StrymULTRA
There's litterally no proof them scourcing the planet with flames and lightning is casual, the caual feat of Reshiram is 6-A
also, i'm pretty sure they scale below the Dragon Force, which is planetary
There's litterally no proof them scourcing the planet with flames and lightning is casual, the caual feat of Reshiram is 6-A
also, i'm pretty sure they scale below the Dragon Force, which is planetary
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The burden of proof is on you since you have to prove that isn't casual.
Arbitrary tier and argument from incredulity.
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No, the burden is on the positive, you have to prove it's casual
the Dragon Force was litterally stated to threaten to destroy the world, also the two legendary pokeomons couldn't do anything to directly stop it
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The way you're saying it like "it has much less grounds to NOT be an outlier" sounds like you're just calling it an outlier until someone proves otherwise.
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Nothing says it's not, so...
Wasn't it related to their own energy tho?
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You can’t ping people without being a staff, quote them
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you have to PROVE it is
it wan't unless the english traslation says stuff the italian one doesn't
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It not being casual doesn't mean they can't have something way higher, the hell is that logic? It's still not a contradiction. PROVE it's a contradiction.
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They can't stop a planet destroying force, that's a contradiction
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Thought this would come up, and no, its a non-argument. The Dragon Force is simply life energy that flows throughout The Pokemon Earth, it is not indicative as a "Ceiling" for Reshiram and Zekrom's tier.
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life energy capable of destroying the planet
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Which, again, isn't a counter against either of them.
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Being able to destroy a planet doesnt make you planetary at max
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As much as it feels like this should be an outlier, there's literally nothing that I've seen supporting that notion.
I disagree FRA.
I disagree FRA.
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Has anyone agreed
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A couple of people
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The votes really don't matter if the arguments they agreed with got dismantled. Which is the case here.
"Outlier!" was the only small thing the OP had to use as ammo against the upgrades and it's been explained to death here on why the upgrade isn't an outlier at all. So there's nothing left from this thread that has anything to counter the upgrades and should just be closed.
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I do agree with overlord on them not being casual, if statements about "having the power to do X" were casual until proven otherwise, 95% of all profiles would have it as such, proving they can do the feats they are know for with easy is the default requirement.
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Except it was proven and explained to be casual earlier in this thread. Xerneas's especially who's feat is done literally by existing.
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Yeah, so? I never said they weren't, i'm saying "prove they weren't casual" is not an argument.
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Well “prove they weren’t casual” was brought up after they were proven to be casual by us and the OP still insists they aren’t.
If you fulfill the burden of proof already and the opponent still claims they aren’t casual, then they do need to prove they aren’t.
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EXCEPT Xernas is protrayed as massivelly stronger than Mega-Ray, Mega-Mewtwo and Deoxys, as it could hold back Dark Matter for a really extended amount of tieìme, while the other three legendaries got instantly killed the moment it shifted its attention to them
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What low showings does mega mewtwo, deoxys and Rayquaza have to put them below galaxy level?
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Lmao
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This thread is just pathetic, wondering why is not moved in FnG yet
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Isn't Dark Matter also the dude who's casually 4-A?
With Mega Ray and Deoxys actively stalemating him for a time?
And instantly killed? You mean petrified? And you know it did that to even ******* Arceus. Those two getting turned isnt exactly a detriment to their power when it was hax that works on even God.
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