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Damn that's just BS
Actually no that was and is BS
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Pokemon Discussion Thread - Red & Blue arc
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Actually no that was and is BS
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Should those Pokémon scale too or the creation trio should be downgraded to planetary?
Because either way I'm not gonna let this slide
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It's Swinub on steroids
I mean Ash Pikachu is about to scale to Leon and Cynthia at tier 2
Sniper670
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Cool
Universe destroying deities gets downgraded to continent level
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It's a trained Pokémon
What's the problem?
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Are you actually gonna downgrade the Creation Trio?
To what?
To what?
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Tbf, pokémon in the game does showcase a form of UES, being the infinite energy from ORAS. So even if you want to stretch the avatar and planetary bs, they might still scale to their "environmental" feats anyway.
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Yeah no I do not buy into this whole Creation Trio downgrade thing at all. I guarantee I'll be arguing against that whenever that thread comes
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You're suddenly gonna downgrade the CT all because they was beaten up by Regigigas instead of scaling Regigigas and Heatran to them?
Why don't we downgrade Ultra Necrozma because it was getting beaten up by Zygarde
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I still don't fully understand outliers especially in Pokémon
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Mfw universe destroying deities become 5-B
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Like dead ass
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An outlier is an statistical anomaly. For example, wild mon pokedex feats are shown to be consistently tier 7 for first and second stage evolutions. Then you have Gardevoir that has a tier 4 feat. That feat is so astronomically high, that statistically don't follow the pattern. So it's an outlier.
Edit: Curiously, for Pokken Tournament, where the feat is more prominent (as in literally shown), it wouldn't be an outlier thanks to Shadow Mewtwo having another tier 4 feat, being a bit more in line with the scaling (although, the difference between Gardevoir's and Mewtwo's feat is still quite considerable)
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Don't see how that will make them 2A.
I'm working on UES. But Infinity energy is far from UES. Far better evidence of it exists in the anime and Dex entries. I'm currently in Kalo arc so that'll take a while.
Just establish layers of hax and get Arceus hax to low 1C.
Then if we can get Victini infinite energy = Infinite power boost and slap that fraud on all the energy of the 18 types of Arceus we might finally have Arceus being infinitely more amped in all his powers at low 1C level
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It's not an outlier.
Psychic power can create dimensions.
Alakazam has done it, Gardevoir has done it, Gothitelle did some fate manipulation rw by remaking his memories into reality and play them out.
It doesn't scale to their statistics and it's just RW at a 3A level
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The same psychic energy they use to accomplish those feats it's the same they use to attack. Literally on Gardevoir's pokédex entry how they achieve their shit through psycho kinesis, twisting dimensions. It's 100% an outlier.
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Well, we'll meet
Sniper670
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They simply choose not to. Note that Gardevoir achieves it by using all of its power and Gothitelle does it by going all out.
It's not something they'd do
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Irrelevant. The consistent scale for these wild mons is tier 7.
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I don't understand why they can't have a tier 4 key lol
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How is it an outlier when Pokémon scientists who are able to extract infinite energy from Pokémon say it multiple times it's something they can do? And shown in the anime as well
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Well anyways when you make a CRT about downgrading the creation trio @Sniper670 automatically put me as disagree
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Be my guest going for the upgrade. But right now, it's considered an outlier and I have explained why.
If you accept tier 4 Gardevoir (or apparently 3-A according to you, lol), you will have to argue how it scales to other 'mons. Because by their pokédex, Gardevoir accomplishes this through their natural psychic energy.
If you accept tier 4 Gardevoir (or apparently 3-A according to you, lol), you will have to argue how it scales to other 'mons. Because by their pokédex, Gardevoir accomplishes this through their natural psychic energy.
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Yes. You're mistaking something here. Vast Psychic energy does not default increase any statistics at all.
It's why I say it's 4A Reality Warping and that's that. No one will scale
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Whatever you say.
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Should be...
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Quoting Cresselia's origin section on Cresselia's page on Bulbapedia:
"Its Hisui Pokédex states: "[Cresselia] resembles the heavenly maiden who created the Milky Way", this "heavenly maiden" may be a reference to the Estonian goddess of birds Lindu who is said to have created the Milky Way with her tears."
So that may be what Professor Laventon is thinking of.
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Well 2/3 their feats are subpar and the high end ones are just space hax and time hax which is good hax with big range I guess
