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The 4A thing is something, cause if it involves an unspecified number of stars, then it's practically impossible to actually properly quantify it based off detailed calcs if we are to somehow used empty space in the equations.
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It's possible. Just not sure if everyone else on the same stance.Greenshifter said:Could we use vacuum energy to calculate the energy for creating a certain volume of space-time? I know there is a very big discrepancy between is's theoretical and experimental value (10^-9 joules/m^3 vs 10^113 joules/m^3) but maybe if we delve deeper into this we can figure something out?
I think Executor and DT are the best to ask about this and last I remember, Ugarik really isn't much of an expert in stuff like this.Antvasima said:Building on what Greenshifter said, would dark matter factor into this? It is probably best if somebody asks DontTalkDT, Executor N0, Ugarik, Ultima Reality, and Antoniofer to comment here.
Is somebody willing to ask them to help out here?Antvasima said:Okay. Perhaps Executor, DTDT, Kepekley, and Ultima then?
So does Bahamut Fury and Knights of the Round actually... >_>;DMUA said:Ironic because the whole reason this thread exists was because Zephyr brought up that both Bahamut zero and Sephiroth have pocket dimensions with stars in them and I didn't remember if we actually had that be 4-A
Knights of the Round has Galaxies floating around in the background. There are no real lore statements per se that mention dimensions or Solar Systems, to be honest, only Sephiroth's Supernova is mentioned to destroy the Solar System in the Ultimania Omega (and implications that it's actually a Galaxy sized dimension), everyone else is based on the animations in-game. Sorry, not gonna derail anymore, wanted to mention that and follow the thread to see what is concluded here.DarkDragonMedeus said:There was a 3-B feat that was considered and outlier due to it being done by a more fodder summon. I only recall their pocket realities being 4-B sized via lore statements, not having starry skies. And Sephiroth's Supernova was like 3 Megafoe until it got recalculated with even higher results.</s>
I'm with that.DarkDragonMedeus said:-stuff-
Amongst other because of this. There is no real good way to classify these anyway. We aren't going to change the (pocket reality) universe creation value and rating reality warping mountains into existence by GBE in my opinion makes no sense either.Edwardtruong2006 said:To avoid double standards, creation feats would look like this.
We can't. This has been brought up and considered multiple times.Greenshifter said:Could we use vacuum energy to calculate the energy for creating a certain volume of space-time? I know there is a very big discrepancy between is's theoretical and experimental value (10^-9 joules/m^3 vs 10^113 joules/m^3) but maybe if we delve deeper into this we can figure something out?
I've never been particularly fond of bluntness in important discussions like these... but this.Matthew Schroeder said:Being 4-A for creating a universe is one of the dumbest things I ever heard.