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Plants vs. Zombies Discussion Thread: It's About Time! 🌱🧟♂️
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Nah, all thouse eletrical atacks travel intantly so would only apply to then selfs
In terms of speed? I guess we could compare to the dolphing rider speed to a IRL dolphin burst speed or the terminal velocity of a watermelon I guess
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What?
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The characters can fight comparable against each other they should have speeds on that level in they can keep up with those attacks
Basing off here, it should get them to very slightly above baseline Subsonic, I'll include in the crt if I ever get around making it. We should also remove Immobile since we see in the comics that they can move around
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No, not how tqat work, nothig compare to the speed of lightning atacks in the games
Yes, trough they would be bellow averge human in movement speed for most of the plants
Or their strategy in combat
I don't think PvZ is one of the verses that has that :V unless we count sunlight but I don't think so
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In GW2 electro peas are shown to travel in the same speed as regular peas, with other projectiles being even faster, in PvZ2 regular peas are blatantly faster than electro peas
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There's magic too, but it seems complicated
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GW plants ≠ PVZ 2 plants
And the electro pea orbs aren't light speed, the eltricity the orbs trow are
The GWF playable characters aren't comparable to their tower defense counterparts(maybe with the exeption of Z-mech)
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Not. Universal power sourcetrough, just something that exists in the verse and that's It, there is no rules to how It work
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Never said that, I'm just saying in both cases Peashooter is comparable if not superior in attack speed than Electro Pea
I didn't say he was light speed
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And I said electro pea shots aren't lightning speed then selfs
I meant lightning
Dragonite007
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Don't ever bring chinese PvZ here again(It has It's own cannon and own scale separated from main PvZ timeline)
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Sooooo... Plama Peashooter is multiversal level with 4D existence (read the plasma peashooter description)
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An upgrade for this was requested and already declined, here's the thread:
Is plasma pea 2-A?
So... this guys descriptio. Would that make him 2-A? If not then what tier would he be?
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No, the Plasma Peas aren't multiverse level. The universes that they create are mini. The temporal dimensions and causalities within the peas are mini. Plasma Peas technically have causality manipulation, but it's on such an infinitesimal scale that it ultimately doesn't matter, and the impact of the mini universe peas are no different than with any other kind of peas. Just because a thing is titled as a universe doesn't mean it is as big as a universe when it as clear as day shows that it's not actually universe sized. Please assure me that you are just joking.
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Plasma Peas can warp the reality within their shots for effects in battle at least, so the peas being universes isn't entirely not combat applicable, but it's still nowhere near multiverse level.
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I mean, was declined beacuse the mos interpreted this as a joke... and quite clearly isn't, I mean, It's for us but thouse descriptions nevel just lie for no reason
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Broken link
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I provided an explanation for why the information doesn't suggest that Plasma Peas are multiverse level even in the case that the information is serious.
The link works when I click on it. As an alternative, you can find the image in the Plasma Pea page in the Plants vs. Zombies Wiki.
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Forget the multiverse part, I was being dumb, change multiverse to universe
Anyway, my opnion, Plasma Peashooter should be the only to scale to that sinse It's a giant outlier but the description especifie to much that It's true to be disconsidered completly
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This doesn't make a difference. The universes are mini. None of what Plasma Peas do are on a legitimately universal scale outside of the standards of their mini universes that are functionally similar to other peas. The description of Plasma Peas are meant to hype the species up as having legitimate cosmic power, but it's all contained on a tiny scale as to not be over-powered and completely out of place in a world that is otherwise barely doing anything involving cosmic power with the playable characters.
The fact that Plasma Peas are comparable to the other plants and zombies goes to show how the cosmic powers of Plasma Peas are truly on a vastly smaller scale than in your opinion of their capabilities, which is very evident when factoring in what I described in my previous paragraph in this message. You can't legitimately assert that Plasma Peas scale above all the other characters when they evidently don't and are an alternative version of Peashooters like any other.
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It's literaly stated that yhey at. Much bigger then what they look like lol
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Ooorrrr, game mechanics and Plasma Pea is just Op compared to everyone else
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Not to mention the gnomes make that universe bursting feat not much of a outlier as they do have a quite unimaginable level of power but I would need more serch to gather their feats and statments
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The nebulae of the peas "dwarf you and I" from a perspective internal to them, not in an external perspective where they're plainly just pea sized. Even if it's not true, then the statement is clearly just a hyperbole. There's no denying that the peas are clearly not objects that dwarf humans, and Plasma Peas would make no sense if they secretly created universe sized peas in combat with characters far smaller than universes.
That's not how the factor of gameplay inaccuracies work. It's unreasonable to claim that, just because it's a video game that needs to be fair, characters that only have evidence of being comparable to each other secretly have one character among them who scales far above all the others just because it wouldn't make sense for the other characters to scale to this one character who you think is very powerful beyond how the characters are consistently portrayed as, even though this one character can easily be interpreted in a different way that makes sense.
I'm not aware of whatever feat you're referring to here.
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There is no proof that this is the case, especially sinse this would imply that ever other description is also from the perspective of inside the universes of plasma pea
They control time and exist outside It and control the string theory. Somethig like that
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You claim that there is no proof of what I'm claiming, meanwhile, if you take a casual glance at the peas, you can plainly see that they aren't universe sized. You telling me that there is no proof of the peas not being universe sized is merely a result of you inflexibly prioritizing a particular interpretation of a statement that could be interpreted in many different ways that are sensible and more consistent with what we're shown.
Do you have a source of this being true?
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The only characters that can get Tier 2 are the king Gnome and Zomboss/Dave via enviroment destruction, the rest you can forget
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As I said, I would need to do some reser h to get the proof of that, I nevwr quite understood Gnome lore trough
Idk why I'm still discussing this, I have no intention of start to make anything related to GWF yet lol
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Yeah, that's fine. I'm just expressing curiosity.
Discussion is just discussion, there doesn't need to be plans associated with it. Also, what I described implies that I think that you should quit while you're ahead. I doubt that anyone would successfully perform the upgrade that you're thinking about, because, for the reasons I explained, ranking the characters that way would be inaccurate.
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Still disagree but I respect Your opnion and sinse I'm tired of talking about that I will just leave this at that, good debate my friend
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Thanks for the discussion too. It's always useful to discuss disagreement in a friendly way.
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PvZ 3 Jalapeno can one-shot Gargantuar
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Ignore pvz3, It will probable become non cannon soon
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It's a beta and not an official release so I wouldn't agree
