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I guess because we rather use the Kaioken multipliers than the SSj multipliers, as it is more safe, but i do think the 50x could be applied.Nullflowerblush said:Why is Super Saiyan considered a x40 boost instead of a x50 boost?
Then what you propose? Simply assume a minimum timeframe that everyone (or most) can agree on?ByAsura said:Spoken word timeframes aren't used any more because of how inconsistent they can be.
I wouldn't say it's obvious.GojiBoyForever said:50x should be accepted for sure for the Namek saga. It obviously rose in the arcs past Namek.
What about the speed issue?Elizhaa said:If the calculations have this many flaws, I have no pronlems with the proposal is the OP. If the 50x time multiplier has many uncontradicted Statements, then I have no problem with it. The 40x multiplier, I think it is still safer.
If you're referring to his Buu Saga Base Form be stronger than his Namek Saga counterpart, unfortunately most people don't think there is enough evidence that prove that.Read this post said:Seems great good to me. But I wonder. Would gokus base form at the end of the cell saga be mftl? In which case, should his ssj form be mftl+?
When such thing was stated in the series?ByAsura said:Apparently his speed actually stays the same as base, while his power is multiplied by 10.
You mean Massively FTL+, since Android 17 should still be Massively FTL in virtue of be faster than 100% Frieza.ByAsura said:@Stefano 17 would need to be 6 times faster to breech Massively FTL.
I'm not using any guide book statement, only scaling.ByAsura said:SPC and Gohan have no evidence of reaching that high. We don't use the guide book 100x statement.
But that neither suggest that the Great Ape Form doesn't affect the speed of the user, and there is no other statements in the series that suggest such thing.ByAsura said:See the edit.
Actually the wiki say that the At least can be used to denote the lower cap of a character, if the exact value is indeterminate.ByAsura said:At least suggests he could potentially break into the next tier, and there's not enough evidence for that.