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It's considered more powerful than Bufu and Mabufu.i agree with all of this
about the Absolute Zero thing:
is the spell considered more powerfull than the other ice spells or not ? because this would help it's case more
If it’s comparable to Bufula in potency, and there are colder spells, then the only logical assumption is that it’s as cold as AZ.How does that help? Colder ice is just colder, not absolute zero.
Can you actually tell me your counterarguments against it maybe?Already read before, it’s that dumb document on JoJo vs Persona.
This is a ridiculous attempt made by someone from the now-banned streak of old Giorno vs Joker threads to discredit Joker's abilities. The vast majority of it is just a bunch of strung-together arguments and 'evidence' made to sound relevant to the point they're making when it's obvious that said arguments are completely irrelevant, if not flat-out wrong.Also, this is related, but this is a possible counter to Acasual Persona characters https://docs.google.com/document/d/1j82VMafqFQBilev2o6TYga5uHi09b0R1utQJ98JauHg/edit
I want thoughts on this Doc, and am curious how you guys feel about it.
I suppose this makes sense to me? I was not familiar with the Maruki example due to still having yet to finish P5RA reality warper can make reality do something it wouldn't do naturally. The target of the reality warping is only on reality itself, and the effect is independent of the reality warp except for in the case of the reality warp directly manipulating the part of reality that is the target of the intended effect. Take for example, a reality warper can bring a fire into existence to incinerate someone, but the only things involved in that are the reality warper and the fire. If the target of the fire is burned, that's between the fire and the target. If the target isn't incinerated, then they resist Fire Manip, not necessarily Reality Warping.
The biggest reason why Persona resists both the effects and the Reality Warping itself is because there have been cases where different applications of Reality Warping affect them while others are resisted despite originating from the same source. Take for example, Takuto Maruki. We know for a fact that the Phantom Thieves by that point can resist his distortions just by being present within his Palace and not being affected by its distortions, but it is outright stated that Maruki can erase them from existence if he wanted, and he also displays the ability to rewrite laws in his Palace to prevent specific actions, which none of the PTs could resist. If it were a case of the PTs blanket resisting the Reality Warping itself, then either none of the applications of it should've affected them, or all of it should. This clearly isn't the case, however, which would imply that there are varying degrees of resistance to each specific application of Maruki's Reality Warping.
There is a "base level" resistance to Reality Warping in its entirety, however, as Morgana specifically states that the Phantom Thief outfits protect their wearers from the distortions themselves, which would refer to the reality warps.