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Percy Jackson vs Steven Universe (Grace Period)

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Fight takes place outside the Temple, Percy's in the water and has the Curse of Achellies. Season 4 Steven is standing on the porch. Speed Equalized, Win via any means.

I honestly think Percy has a real chance here. Mainly because of Riptide. I feel like I've forgoten something though. It's probably really important too.

Percy Jackso

Steven Universe
 
Someone really needs to calc Sapphire's storm feat as it would likely upgrade season 4 steven...

Anyways, Percy is only a bit more than 2x stronger than Steven physically but he has no way past Steven's shield and bubble
 
Right, because giving watermelons intelligence, healing tears and shapeshifting an otherwise normal human body isn't supernatural in anyway. I'm sorry, but the definition of supernatural is vauge and constantly bend in fiction. Psychics are considered supernatural and can be explained depending on what series there in.
 
Exactly, its not supernatural, they reference multiple times in the show itself that the Gems as a race are highly advanced beings rather than supernatural entities
 
He might not be able to outright break it, but he can wear steven out by submerging him in the ocean and keeping him there. Steven can't maintain a bubble forever.
 
Steven can breathe just fine being stuck under the ocean and his bubble is more than durable enough to let him tank it
 
Uh no, that's not what I meant. Gems are highly advanced sure, but still supernatural.

>(of a manifestation or event) attributed to some force beyond scientific understanding or the laws of nature

As far as we're concerned, Gems fit both of those.
 
No actually, Gems are heavily science-based and revolve pretty heavily around following the laws of nature
 
WeeklyBattles said:
Steven can breathe just fine being stuck under the ocean and his bubble is more than durable enough to let him tank it
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I'm not saying the act of submerging him beats him right then and there, I'm saying Percy can play the long game and stall steven out until he's exhausted by forcing him to maintain the bubble under the ocean's weight for a long period of time.
 
@Sir Good idea, let steven tire himself out, take a nap, and gain full access to his mind manipulating powers and convince Percy to stop fighting him
 
Under the strain and weight of the ocean constantly pounding on him? Not likely. Safe to assume that exerts just a bit more force and requires a bit more focus and energy than floating around in space. If a short tussle with a Ruby drained him like it did, there's no way he can sleep off the oceans weight.
 
Steven's bubble is High 6-A literally for withstanding the entire ocean falling on it, and he's survivved in his bubble at the bottom of the ocean before on more than one occasion. He doesnt need to focus to maintain the bubble, its a reflexive shield.
 
Yes it is, but that was a singular event/"attack", put him in a scenario where it's like that constantly for hours on end and it's a different story, not to mention his stamina isn't infinate, nor has he ever been able to maintain peak performance constantly (especially when you take into account a move like this would likely be a last resort for Percy, and the two likely would have been exchanging blows for a while already). The few times he was submerged was right outside the shores of the city, that isn't represenitive of the whole ocean, especially if percy decides to drag him out further than just off the shore. And when he's floating aimlessly in space, no, but when he's facing a constant assault from outside pressure, he does.
 
From Weekly's reasoning, Percy doesn't really have anything to hurt Steven. And doesn't Steven's bubble come with spikes mode?
 
Can Steven get past the Curse of Achilles, especially when Percy is in water?
 
No, his only offensive capability is the spike bubble, which is next to useless unless someone's propelling him into the target/he's using it in responce to something charging him. Which is why it more than likely ends up being an endurance round.
 
The weight of the ocean isnt even remotely close to the durability of the bubble, and Steven doesnt need focus to maintain it
 
You're right, it's arguably far less when you consider how most of the water was falling around him and how it would (and does) naturally fan and spread out rather than all specifically bombard the same spot. https://youtu.be/DPQbYFYDkSM?t=2m48s


And, again, in a scenario like floating around in space or being just off the shore of the city, both instances where there isn't much force to guard against, porbably not, but when there IS a strong force constantly/repeatedly pressing against the walls of the bubble, steven's always been shown to have to make an effort to maintain the bubble and keep the force at bay.

https://youtu.be/rpXHG6Z2MY4?t=1m22s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QdUZGF3lKw (there's no reason to assume the durability gets any better/different as a bubble vs the shield)
 
No, steven does not need to make an effort to maintain the bubble, hell in the first instance of the bubble existing he didnt even know how it worked and it stayed up for hours

Both the Bubble and the shield have High 6-A durability
 
Again, strain and the amount of pressure it's holding back, there's a difference between the scenarios, the evidence is right there in the previous post. So either a corrupted gem is as strong/stronger than the diamonds, or the shield behaves differently in responce to how much pressure's applied and how friquently it's assaulted.
 
Again, Steven has already demonstrated on at least three different occasions that i can think of off the top of my head of being completely fine holding back the weight and pressure of the ocean

Also since when is it in character for Percy to drag the opponent to the bottom of the ocean to try and crush them?

Also also he wont be able to keep Steven there for long without effort, which will tire Percy far faster than just fighting Steven normally as manipulating water tires him consierably
 
So when exactly did steven hold up the entire ocean? It's been bothering me for a while. The only time I can remember is when we meet connie, and that's not all that deep and when we meet Lapis, and we never actually see steven's bubble holding up the ocean. For all we know he could have just carried by the currents.
 
Againagain, the point was never "the moment he's in deep water, that's it, bubble gone, GG", the point was Percy keeps him there and stalls him out, possibly while also assulting the bubble. There's only two instances where steven was at the "bottom of the ocean", one was just off the shore of beach city, and the other was when he and the gems were driving back from fighting Lapis. Needless to say the shore feat is irrelevent, while the car ride shows that he had to focus to keep the bubble going on the ride back, unless his focused, wincing face with his hands out was just him stretching. That said, the constant barrage of water pressure and/or attacks from percy is going to tire steven out eventually.

It's speculation considering that's his home field advantage, and would likely be a last resort if all else fails, so it's just as "in character" of an assumption as steven using mind manipulation under all that stress and strain, mid battle, willingly and for offense.

That's true, but consistant contact wth water, especially salt water, restores and maintains his stamina, so that drawback's mitigated so long as he's in the ocean.
 
It was never stated or demonstrated that he needed to focus to maintain the bubble at the bottom of the ocean and this has never been the case throughout the entire series. If Percy tries to hold Steven at the bottom of the ocean and attack him all he's going to do is tire himself out long before Steven gets tired from just being awake.

If Steven is tired out to the point that he has to sleep to rest there's no reason he wouldnt use his mind powers to try to reason with Percy and try to get him to stop attacking, something Steven has done before.

According to his profile Percy doesnt get a stamina boost when in contact with water, only a strength and speed boost
 
He's only truly been at the "bottom" once, and that one time he showed clear physical strain and focus to keep the bubble going. https://youtu.be/DPQbYFYDkSM?t=3m25s Also "Spent months trapped in Tartarus, fighting off a neverending army of the undead and all other sorts of monsters and managed to escape despite the life-force draining effects of the deepest sectors of the Greek Underworld" That doesn't sound like a stamina pool that's going to be drained in a few short minutes/hours.

If he gets to that point the bubble won't remain. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uFETtw_uIA A short tussle with a ruby left him in that state, if that's the point he got too when he passed out, while nothing was attacking him, it's a fairly large stretch to assume he can do the same, if not better under MUCH worse conditions. Plus the extent of Steven's mind hopping, if he can even pull it off, is just talking to people, he can't directly influence their actions unless they're also asleep. So unless he's there to surrender, it won't matter. The setting's a duel/fight, not an attack from a misunderstood antagonist he can talk no jutsu into stopping.

Then his profile needs to be updated https://riordan.wikia.com/wiki/Percy_Jackson#Demigod%20Abilities "When in contact with or in the presence of water, Percy gains a disproportionate amount of superhuman clarity, strength, speed, agility, and endurance equaling a god."
 
ApiesDeathbyLazors said:
So when exactly did steven hold up the entire ocean? It's been bothering me for a while. The only time I can remember is when we meet connie, and that's not all that deep and when we meet Lapis, and we never actually see steven's bubble holding up the ocean. For all we know he could have just carried by the currents.
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He doesn't, at best the shield withstands a portion of the falling water before being swept away.
 
He was at the bottom of the ocean for several hours while they were going back to Beach City, nothing even remotely implies the current moved them
 
No he didnt, he never showed any physical strain ever while maintaining a bubble underwater, where are you getting the idea that he has? Also "however, he was drained and exhausted by journey's end and only survived due to the intervention of Iapetus" Thank you for leaving out that crucial detail.

Steven is able to keep his bubble up even while unconscious, there isnt a 'point where the bubble wont remain', its up until he drops it whether he's awake or not. He wasnt exhausted after the fight with Ruby, he was in a deep state of mental and emotional trauma on top of struggling to breathe after being exposed for a few seconds to the vacuum of space while sending Ruby to her death. Steven has actively convinced people who were outwardly trying to kill him into stopping with his mind powers before, and even if he cant he can just wait until Percy exhausts himself.

Using a wikia as a source isnt enough proof to justify it being on his profile.
 
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