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Part 1 Naruto AP Revisions

I am myself You are you said:
He received the Low 7-C attack, but it hurt him, and it seemed to be very wounded.

If he really has a Low 7-C durability, he will get his fists without much injury.
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No not necessarily. You can get hurt by something low 7-C and still be low 7-C because there's a range for that tier. It only means Haku is lower than Naruto in the low 7-C spectrum.
 
No it is not. Sasuke beating Haku is something that was even noted by Zabuza. It is a part of the plot since he needed to become stronger to fight Haku. If something is an outlier, is Haku tanking KN0 punch
 
I think that the best solution is to scale Haku to Sasuke in overall stats, but just give him either a possibly 'higher' stat for his durability, or note it in his stamina that he could survive KN0's punch.

Or we just don't scale the version of KN0 that we used against Haku to the version in the Chunin Exams Arc.
 
I am myself You are you said:
Haku (Naruto)
Something like this

Attack Potency: At least City Block level (Stronger than Naruto and Sasuke, Manage to defeated them with ease)

Durability: At least City Block level, likely higher (He was able to survive the attack by KN0 Naruto)
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Damage3245 and M3X, can you write a description? How would you like to adjust his profile?
 
I don't remember this arc very well, sorry. I will read it again today and write the best justifications I can for both
 
Apologies on my late arrival to this thread. Could someone give me a summary of what's been dicsussed and decided up to this point, and what still needs to be discussed over?
 
Most have agreed for vaporization on the fire ball feat and was discussed above, but we were still waiting on your input from before.

Also about the general scaling and who should scale to who and what feat in the wave arc, chunin exams and sasuke retrieval arc.

Obviously not everything has been decided, is hard to pin down what is left.
 
LSirLancelotDuLacl said:
I entirely disagree with even backscaling Naruto to Kabuto. 1, not only does Kabuto easily handle his 4 clones and sends one flying to hit Naruto and make him reel all the way to Shizune, JIRAIYA of all people directly compares Kabuto to Kakashi.And the blow that he "no-sold"? Normal blows with no big power under them. Kabuto wasn't hitting Tsunade with his full strength, intending to kill her, he was hitting her repeatedly in annoyance. Not only did he still bleed from the strike, he did from one not even putting Kabuto's all behind it.
You could say that he still back scales due to not dying, but he only received a single attack where Kabuto meant to kill him and he took it with his hand. Holding him in place, as well, is lifting strength last I saw.
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By the way, as a reminder. So no, Naruto during and after the hunt for Tsunade shouldn't scale to Kabuto at all.

And just to be clear, what calcs in the part 1 profiles have been downgraded/discredited?
 
The "debunk" is terrible. The bear was never running, it was still until it raised its arm to attack kirin, that's when sasuke attacked it. It wasnt running or jogging.
 
I mean, the bear should be capable of running without ripping it's muscles and skin apart, so I'll go out and say it, I think knocking out a bear with a casual kick takes more energy than it makes while running.
 
People that scale to giants also get calcs assuming that they can do a light jog without damaging themselves, regardless of those scaling to them not tanking the giant running.
 
Why do we need to make that kind of assumption about the bear?
 
Damage3245 said:
Why do we need to make that kind of assumption about the bear?
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It being able to survive running?

I don't think assuming an animal is able to move properly without ripping itself apart is much of an assumption.
 
Wrath Of Itachi said:
The bear wasn't running in the panel where Sasuke kicked him.
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So?

The fact that it can run without harming itself, but a single kick from him instantly knocked it out is enough.

Again, this is what we do for just about every giant, and I don't see the problem with it.
 
Yeah. Just want to say that a bear hypothetically running at a certain speed doesn't mean that all of the energy of it running is being directed into its head.

A kick to the head could be weaker than the bear's overall kinetic energy but still able to knock it out because it is concentrated energy in a single spot.
 
I suppose, though I'm pretty sure bears are generally able to hit stuff while running without much of a problem. And I think we assume the thing is like a normal bear in what it can do.

Regardless, a hit several times below that shouldn't even faze it.
 
Not his head, but its own body. Knocking down a bear makes you scale to its full energy
 
So even if the bear wasn't running, we can calc the full running speed and scale it to sasuke for knocking it out? Should the calc be redone?
 
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