Overlord General Discussion Mk.VIII

[Apeironaxim]

 

[RulerOfTheAbyss]

very nice image.

I like to think that it depics a scene where shizu is playing a drinking game against the other pleiades and only her and Lupu (who is cheating by constantly using cure poison) are left while the others are already passed out drunk

 

[Apeironaxim]

do magic weapons and such being able to harm incorporeal things give them anything we can add to the profiles?

or does Overlord not treat it as we do?

 

[InfiniteSped]

Non-Physical Interaction

 

[Apeironaxim]

Although he had already explained this in Crusch's village, unless they were to use magic weapons, weapons forged from special metals, magic or special martial arts, it would be exceedingly difficult to harm this kind of incorporeal creature.

So should anyone with the bolded things be given NPI then?

Although i'm not sure anyone qualifies for "special martial arts"

 

[InfiniteSped]

I guess

 

[Apeironaxim]

People who would qualify;

All the Guardians (Maybe besides Gargantua)

Possibly all the Pleiades (Even the ones without magic should qualify with their weapons, but that can be debated)

Evil Lord Wrath, Iguva

Probably Gazef with Razor Edge, Evileye, Fluder, Possibly Lakyus with her weapon, Cure

Any thoughts?

 

[InfiniteSped]

Actually, he might mean some specific spells or magic equipment. Not sure if you could just add it to everyone.

 

[Apeironaxim]

Shalltear just claps to kill those same undead he was talking about

so at the absolute least, she should get it

 

[Apeironaxim]

and i disagree, the only thing he was specific about was the martial arts and the metals

 

[Muchacho_mrm]

Ainz has wraiths doesn't he. Imagine one solo'ing any guardian.

 

[Apeironaxim]

i'm fine if you guys think anyone but the top tiers getting NPI from this is iffy, but I think the top tiers should absolutely get it at the very least

i personally think anyone with offensive magic should get it at least, but that's just me

 

[AnonymousBlank]

Pretty much everyone you listed should get it. Ainz listed requirements for harming incorporeals and these guys have stuff that fit the requirements, shouldn't need much deliberation.

 

[Apeironaxim]

do i need to make this a CRT, or are we good debating here?

 

[Muchacho_mrm]

For such a small thing just compile other changes to make a CRT

 

[Apeironaxim]

we've implemented other small changes before without a CRT, so i don't think i need to grab other stuff to make a CRT

I was more asking since it effected a lot of characters (potentially)

 

[Apeironaxim]

regardless, i think the top tiers should be guaranteed to get it at least

Although he had already explained this in Crusch's village, unless they were to use magic weapons, weapons forged from special metals, magic or special martial arts, it would be exceedingly difficult to harm this kind of incorporeal creature.

And anyone else with the bolded things should get it too. Although it can be debatable if weapons like the one Lupus has count, so if we just want to go for confirmed magical weapons and those with offensive magic, i would be fine with that too

 

[Muchacho_mrm]

Didn't know you could change something without it. I think you should wait for more input I guess.

 

[AnonymousBlank]

Just make a CRT to be on the safe side. You have all you meed and its not like these guys have anti feats to be called into question.

 

[Apeironaxim]

honestly most of the small stuff we've added has been forgotten things that should have been there in the first place

 

[Apeironaxim]

https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/3712185

here it be

 

[InfiniteSped]

If it's worth anything, he did say this earlier:

"That thing can confuse one's mind with its wails, and it's an incorporeal creature. Unenchanted weapons are useless against it, so I couldn't overwhelm it with numbers."

 

[Apeironaxim]

i'd say that's more evidence that it's just magic/enchanted weapons in general, and not any specific enchantment, so that'll be useful if there's doubts about that. Thanks

 

[Apeironaxim]

we don't need to put down each type of mind manip they resist right, just having the "Mind Manip" is enough?

or do we actually need to list every type they resist?

 

[InfiniteSped]

Just in general should be fine

 

[Apeironaxim]

good that's too much work for my lazy ass

Mental effecting stuff in Overlord that i could remember off the top of my head

Memory Manip

Mind Control

Fear Manip

Confusion

Insanity

Empathetic Manip

too much to add, so i'm glad if we can just slap resist to mind manip and be done with it

 

[Apeironaxim]

question, would we be able to use the dimensions of Nazarick as given in the WN/Overlord First Half?

Out of everything he could change, i feel it would be weird for Maruyama to make a drastic change to the size of Nazarick, but i would totally get if we couldn't use it

 

[InfiniteSped]

If it's WN, then prob not.

 

[Apeironaxim]

oh wait

i found the dimensions for the surface of Nazarick in LN

would we be able to use that to scale how much dirt/earth Mare moved and how fast he moved it, using the anime?

doubt it will be a big result, but still, it's something

 

[Muchacho_mrm]

> square four kilometres

I'll dodge that one, given how Arche couldn't even see the stadium or the lake despite being a couple hundred meters in the air.

 

[Apeironaxim]

that was on the 6th floor tho, not the surface

 

[Muchacho_mrm]

https://www.narutoforums.org/xfa-blog-entry/overlord-volume-1-feats.26473/

 

[InfiniteSped]

Could try getting the KE of moving all the dirt, I guess

 

[Apeironaxim]

After leaving the mausoleum, Momonga was greeted by a beautiful sight. The surface area of the Great Tomb of Nazarick was 200 meters square, protected by six-meter thick walls, with an entrance and an exit at the front and back.

This is the surface of Nazarick

 

[Apeironaxim]

https://www.narutoforums.org/xfa-blog-entry/overlord-volume-1-feats.26473/

that doesn't use the anime to help tho

with the anime, we would get an actual speed, not just baseless assumptions

 

[Apeironaxim]

Would we not be able to find out how wide these waves of dirt are, from knowing the surface area of the surface of Nazarick?

 

[InfiniteSped]

Prob won't yield anything notable, but you could try. >_>

 

[Apeironaxim]

nah dude, i don't know how to do anything like this. If anything, i would just be compiling the evidence to help the person calcing

 

[Apeironaxim]

also there's 4 waves, but i'm not sure if that changes anything

 

[Muchacho_mrm]

Well he did post around that time so I assumed they at-least saw it. I guess you can put in a request for that. seem like it could reach even 8-A, if they end up with around the same mass as that dude, not even 10k m/s would reach 7-B.