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If y’all think Orochi/Psykorochi should physically scale, that’s fine, I just wasn’t aware that was where we were going.
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OPM Low 5-B upgrades
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Psykorochi gaining more than she lost is headcanon as well. Also we don't see full range of the shockwave. However, we see that shockwave reaches to King and that's for sure more than few buildings range. Also, whole city worth of roots doesn't matter since that's just the range of her roots. As I said above, what she absorbed was just mere humans and some fodder monsters. So she didn't gain that much after being weakened.
Not to mention, she stated that bending Psykorochi's beams was hard while later weakened Tatsumaki redirected Psykorochi's full power beam without much problem.
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no its not it's litterally what we can confirm imperically,
thats what orochi did to form psyrochi in the first place
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I am not sure about Psykorochi scaling to Orochi physically since Orochi is more of battery for Psykos and only boosts her telekinetic output. But I am fine with tiering her physical abilities like that
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Just saying, if both of your points are headcanon, then we should probably just go with the view that requires the least amount of assumptions, which would be that the Psykos-Orochi fusion is, bare minimum, comparable to Orochi.
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no my point is not headcannon it's based on what we can confirm on page compared to him who is arbitrarily saying that saitamas punch destroyed more roots with no visual evidence to back it up.
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It'd be better if you had scans to back up your claims
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I literally made argument against it though. Again, what you said is headcanon.
And even though Orochi absorbed other monsters we don't know how much power he gained.
Also I will say this again. Full health Tatsumaki stated bending Psykorochi's beams was hard while after Saitama's punch weakened Tatsumaki was able to overpower Psykorochi's beam without much problem
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Hold up, I need to see scans of this.
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All I remember is Tatsumaki trying to get the beams to not hit the ground IIRC, because collateral damage
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That's just range of how far her roots went. I am saying it for third time. She just absorbed humanspretty clear diffrence in size here
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Me too. I agree with everything including Boros changes
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yeah your original argument was that she was weakend after saitama punched him due to loosing cells, what do you think those cells are made of, litteraly fodder monsters.
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I doubt that Psykos losing Wolf to Tiger level threats cells would make her be weakend
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I disagree with Psykorochi scaling to Orochi personally. Considering how high this feat is we should be really careful with scaling stuff to it, and I don't think there's enough evidence one way or the other.
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I agree with the above changes
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Actually, we will probably get some more redraws so maybe we should wait for scaling stuff to Orochi
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You forgot about Orochi and "God"s boost. Since it is extremely likely she stores her power in her cells, we can say that when Saitama punched her she destroyed part of the boost coming from them.
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the god boost doesn't even really matter since we are trying to scale psyrochi to orochis body not god power boost
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Orochi was sure he can beat Saitama while he effortesly defeated his previous form. So Psykorochi scales above Orochi
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Maybe yeah, lot's of things are looking pretty iffy as they are. I'd say just leave Psykorochi, Genos and Tatsumaki for now and focus on Orochi and Boros
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based
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Yeah, that would pretty clearly imply that Psykorochi > Orochi.Orochi thought he could defeat saitama with the new transformation while he obviously got bodied in his previous form
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"God"s boost is part of Psykorochi though. Also since when we try to scale Psykorochi to Orochi. I thought it was pretty clear that Psykorochi is stronger. I am arguing about not scaling Genos and Tatsumaki to her since Psykorochi was weakened
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again orochi has just lost all will to live and shit after realizing he was the sacrifice, so we should expect redraws to change some contextual stuff.
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I agree here probably. I think it's the safer of the 2 options. Though just pointing it out I'm fine with scaling Psykorochi > Orochi
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The thing is that we don’t know for sure that we will get redraws for this, and if we do, we have no idea when those could come.
I think we should carry on with the original plan (since we all seem to be in agreement that Psykorochi > Orochi), and if something comes up later down the line, we can just change it then.
I think we should carry on with the original plan (since we all seem to be in agreement that Psykorochi > Orochi), and if something comes up later down the line, we can just change it then.
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Ok but Psykos is incredibly cocky, I don't think we should take her word as fact.
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If she lost the power, wouldn’t it be, y’know, kinda noticeable? Like, would we not get something from her inner monologue to suggest that she lost the boost?
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Because she is extremely cocky and she still was incomparably stronger than her base. That's why she didn't mind losing part of her powershe sure doesn't act like she lost the boost tho
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I mean just compare power of Orochi and post Saitama punch Psykorochi
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She’s stronger than him? I don’t see your point. Like, if Psykos lost God’s boost, it would be pretty clear. At the least, we’d get something from her inner monologue to suggest that she got weaker.
But considering that she didn’t mention anything of the sort, I don’t see why we’d randomly assume she lost that boost.
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Orochi is low 5-B. Post punch Psykorochi is High 6 A
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That’s not- that’s literally what’s being argued against right now, what?
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Oh, yeah, psykos-orochi losing tiger level threat = falling down from Low 5-B to High 6-A, despite that her ''upgrade'' was literally made by Orochi power + God upgrades
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