OP Blackbeard Keys

[PsychoWarper]

Alright so right now Blackbeard was 2 keys of Pre and Post Timeskip, imo he should have around 4 looking something like this,

"Post-Yami Yami | Post-Gura Gura | Post-Timeskip"

As those signify 3 distinct points in BBs power, names can be adjusted and scaling should probably be discussed further but regardless I do think Blackbeard needs at least more then 2 keys.

 

[Kachon123]

I agree.

 

[KingTempest]

Pre backscales from Shanks
Post Yami scales to Ace
Post Gura scales to Sengoku
Post Timeskip scales far above Marco

 

[KingTempest]

AKA, good job lieutenant

 

[Jibz]

Anyone smelling a 5th key for BB in the near future WCI invasion BB when?

 

[PsychoWarper]

Anyone smelling a 5th key for BB in the near future WCI invasion BB when?

WCI is a bit late

 

[PsychoWarper]

Pre backscales from Shanks
Post Yami scales to Ace
Post Gura scales to Sengoku
Post Timeskip scales far above Marco

I should eventually work on full wordings on the AP sections.

Ability section should be easy enough, speed… basically follows the same stuff as the AP section right?

 

[KingTempest]

I should eventually work on full wordings on the AP sections.

Ability section should be easy enough, speed… basically follows the same stuff as the AP section right?

yeah pretty much

 

[Jibz]

WCI is a bit late

Nah trust me it’ll happen, as soon as Wano is over we’ll get a highlight reel of everything thats happened with Vivi, Sabo and BB among others

 

[Jibz]

Also sorry for kinda derailing + i agree with the thread

 

[KingTempest]

i think all his pre timeskip forms would be the same speed

 

[Kin201]

We don't know how strong Shanks was when he fought BB, right? So would his AP be Unknown or possibly 6-B?

 

[KingTempest]

We don't know how strong Shanks was when he fought BB, right? So would his AP be Unknown or possibly 6-B?

Shanks fought BB after he lost his arm, and Shanks is stated to not have lost any strength since pre arm

 

[Kin201]

Shanks fought BB after he lost his arm, and Shanks is stated to not have lost any strength since pre arm

Didn't Shanks get a scar from him in his left eye long ago before he met Luffy and became an emperor? I honestly don't know how strong he was back then.

 

[KingTempest]

oh nvm he did, true

 

[PsychoWarper]

Unknown for now most likely.

 

[Eminiteable]

Disagree with the pre yami yami key and the reasoning for backscaling from Shanks.

Since Oda hid his face during Chapter 0 Shanks vs BB could have happened when he's either 15 - 17 where he's featless.

We also dont really have any showcases of him fighting on screen, all we know is he uses a metal claw.

I agree with the rest

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

Disagree with the pre yami yami key and the reasoning for backscaling from Shanks.

Since Oda hid his face during Chapter 0 Shanks vs BB could have happened when he's either 15 - 17 where he's featless.

We also dont really have any showcases of him fighting on screen, all we know is he uses claw.

I agree with the rest

I agree with this.

 

[PrinceofPein]

Post Timeskip scales far above Marco

Do we really know how the fight went for it to be “far above Marco” we only got the gist that the WB pirates were defeated and also BB has lots of capable underlings so it may have been a gang bang

 

[PsychoWarper]

Disagree with the pre yami yami key and the reasoning for backscaling from Shanks.

Since Oda hid his face during Chapter 0 Shanks vs BB could have happened when he's either 15 - 17 where he's featless.

We also dont really have any showcases of him fighting on screen, all we know is he uses a metal claw.

I agree with the rest

Thats fair

 

[KingTempest]

Do we really know how the fight went for it to be “far above Marco” we only got the gist that the WB pirates were defeated and also BB has lots of capable underlings so it may have been a gang bang

Marco specifically says that BB bodied with WB’s power. Doesn’t seem like anything else

 

[DaReaperMan]

"Note: Current Blackbeard is still featless, so it is unknown how powerful he exactly is, he only has powerscaling from Old Whitebeard to determine how powerful he is for now until he get's more feats."

Does this still apply?

 

[Damage3245]

"Note: Current Blackbeard is still featless, so it is unknown how powerful he exactly is, he only has powerscaling from Old Whitebeard to determine how powerful he is for now until he get's more feats."

Does this still apply?

Pretty much. Blackbeard hasn't been involved in a single fight Post-Timeskip.

 

[Popted2]

about his keys, how does it sound:

Pre Marinford l Post Marinford l Post timeskip

or

Pre Gura gura l Post Gura Gura l Post timeskip

 

[Damage3245]

Personally I don't think we need a post-timeskip key for Blackbeard at this stage.

Pre-Gura Gura and Post-Gura Gura seem enough to me.

 

[Kin201]

I think we can make a post-timeskip key for him since he has a post-timeskip image profile. The justification for his ratings can be "Should be at least as strong/fast as before" or "Bodied Marco", etc..

I understand if you don't comply with that though.

 

[Eminiteable]

I agree with a Post-timeskip key as well, his scaling to Marco is justifiable enough for a new key.

 

[Eseseso]

Looks good to me

 

[PsychoWarper]

Attack Potency: Country level+ (He could harm Ace by hitting him in his weak spots like his neck and his stomach[1]) | Country level+ (Should be at least comparable to his earlier self. After acquiring the power of Whitebeard's Devil Fruit, he was unfazed by the idea of fighting against "Buddha" Sengoku and "Hero" Garp), can negate durability with internal vibrations | Country level+ (Alongside his crew, he clashed against Marco and the other remnants of the Whitebeard Pirates during the timeskip and obliterated them with Marco stating that they couldn't overcome him anymore. Should have greater mastery over Whitebeards Devil Fruit then before), can negate durability with internal vibrations.

Speed: FTL (Kept up with Ace without missing a beat in their battle. Parried and matched Whitebeard's attacks) | FTL (Should be at least comparable to his earlier self. Was able to clash with Sengoku) | FTL (Clashed and defeated Marco to the point where he admits that he can't overcome him anymore)

Durability: Country level+ (Tanked many blows from Ace[2]. Took a point-blank quake bubble attack from Marineford Whitebeard as well as a direct slash from Whitebeard's bisento[3]) | Country level+ (Should be at least comparable to his earlier self) | Country level+ (Far more durable than before. Scaling from his Attack Potency)

Post-Yami Yami | Post-Gura Gura | Post-Timeskip

Thoughts?

 

[KingTempest]

Looks fine

Post Yami and Post Dura should have the same exact physicals.

Remove the sengoku shockwave scaling in durability, as small portions of a single one completely handled his entire crew including him

 

[Kachon123]

Looks splendid.

 

[Eminiteable]

Attack Potency: Country level+ (He could harm Ace by hitting him in his weak spots like his neck and his stomach[1]) | Country level+ (Should be at least comparable to his earlier self), higher with Gura Gura no Mi (After acquiring the power of Whitebeard's Devil Fruit, he was unfazed by the idea of fighting against "Buddha" Sengoku and "Hero" Garp), can negate durability with internal vibrations | Country level+ (Alongside his crew, he clashed against Marco and the other remnants of the Whitebeard Pirates during the timeskip and obliterated them with Marco stating that they couldn't overcome him anymore), higher with Gura Gura no Mi (Should have greater mastery over Whitebeards Devil Fruit then before), can negate durability with internal vibrations.

Speed: FTL (Kept up with Ace without missing a beat in their battle. Parried and matched Whitebeard's attacks) | FTL (Should be at least comparable to his earlier self. Was able to clash with Sengoku) | FTL (Clashed and defeated Marco to the point where he admits that he can't overcome him anymore)

Durability: Country level+ (Tanked many blows from Ace[2]. Took a point-blank quake bubble attack from Marineford Whitebeard as well as a direct slash from Whitebeard's bisento without losing consciousness[3]) | Country level+ (Should be at least comparable to his earlier self. Was able to take Buddha Sengoku's Shockwaves) | Country level+ (Far more durable than before. Scaling from his Attack Potency)

Post-Yami Yami | Post-Gura Gura | Post-Timeskip

Thoughts?

Remove higher with the gura gura and add the gura gura explanation to the main explanation for both keys, otherwise the rest looks good imo.

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

without losing consciousness[3]

I don't feel like this belongs in the Durability section. This really sounds like Endurance more than anything.

Country level+ (Alongside his crew, he clashed against Marco and the other remnants of the Whitebeard Pirates during the timeskip and obliterated them with Marco stating that they couldn't overcome him anymore), higher with Gura Gura no Mi (Should have greater mastery over Whitebeards Devil Fruit then before),

I think the higher should be removed, because there's no reason to assume the Gura Gura no Mi wasn't a factor in decimating WB's crew.

Otherwise, it looks fine.

 

[PsychoWarper]

Attack Potency: Country level+ (He could harm Ace by hitting him in his weak spots like his neck and his stomach[1]) | Country level+ (Should be at least comparable to his earlier self. After acquiring the power of Whitebeard's Devil Fruit, he was unfazed by the idea of fighting against "Buddha" Sengoku and "Hero" Garp), can negate durability with internal vibrations | Country level+ (Alongside his crew, he clashed against Marco and the other remnants of the Whitebeard Pirates during the timeskip and obliterated them with Marco stating that they couldn't overcome him anymore. Should have greater mastery over Whitebeards Devil Fruit then before), can negate durability with internal vibrations.

Speed: FTL (Kept up with Ace without missing a beat in their battle. Parried and matched Whitebeard's attacks) | FTL (Should be at least comparable to his earlier self. Was able to clash with Sengoku) | FTL (Clashed and defeated Marco to the point where he admits that he can't overcome him anymore)

Durability: Country level+ (Tanked many blows from Ace[2]. Took a point-blank quake bubble attack from Marineford Whitebeard as well as a direct slash from Whitebeard's bisento[3]) | Country level+ (Should be at least comparable to his earlier self) | Country level+ (Far more durable than before. Scaling from his Attack Potency)

Post-Yami Yami | Post-Gura Gura | Post-Timeskip

Thoughts?

Hows this?

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

Yup, that's better.

 

[KingTempest]

because there's no reason to assume the Gura Gura no Mi wasn't a factor in decimating WB's crew.

To support your argument, it was stated that they washed WB's crew because of the fruit.

 

[Nierre]

 

[PsychoWarper]

So can I apply this?

 

[KingTempest]

Yeah it's good

 

[PsychoWarper]

Hows this?

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