One Punch Man: Melzargard Profile Revamp

[Recon1511]

Yeah, another one.

Melz profile is kinda shit so here is the revamped version:

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The changes:

First of all, his name is Melzargard not "Melzalgald"

His current keys are wrong as well as it doesn't acknowledge his "Separate", "Merged" and "Combined" forms.

I also arranged so that his feats are on the correct keys, "Separate" being featless, "Merged" being the one that one shotted the Sky King and blew Iaian's arm off and "Combined" which is featless as well but is stated to be considerably stronger than his Merged form.

I also changed a lot of other minor things, added references and fixed some of the justifications, if anyone reading feels like some of those changes need further discussion just let me know.

Scaling:
His "Merged" key most relevant change is possibly scaling to a casual Bang for slightly damaging him and making him take the fight seriously. It's not really solid but Bang actually got serious after that hit.

Ia a season 2 OVA Bang also admits he took damage and that he "needed the jolt"

We have to determine the canonicity of this OVA, I think we agreed that it's a case by case scenario before so why don't we discuss about it?

 

[Kachon123]

No credits

I agree

 

[Recon1511]

Ah yeah guys this was Kachon's idea btw

 

[ZillertheBucko]

Just a reminder though, when Melz hit bang he had already broken a marble, so he had 1 head left
Technically it would fall under a feat for separated melz

 

[Kachon123]

Small nitpick, but if you're changing Melz' name, you should also edit his name in his quotes

 

[Recon1511]

Just a reminder though, when Melz hit bang he had already broken a marble, so he had 1 head left
Technically it would fall under a feat for separated melz

His body was merged, he doesn't seem to lose any strength even if he loses heads but he does lose his "Combined" form

 

[Recon1511]

Small nitpick, but if you're changing Melz' name, you should also edit his name in his quotes

fixed, I think

 

[ZillertheBucko]

His body was merged, he doesn't seem to lose any strength even if he loses heads but he does lose his "Combined" form

Alright sure,
and uh, just one small nitpick
couldn’t we also use this opportunity to scale him to blitzing a sea king level character?

 

[Kachon123]

Alright sure,
and uh, just one small nitpick
couldn’t we also use this opportunity to scale him to blitzing a sea king level character?

He was behind Sky King. That's not a blitz.

 

[ZillertheBucko]

I'll keep that one for another time.

 

[Recon1511]

I mean the sequence is weird as hell because the Sky King does turn around but in the next chapter he... didn't?

The anime makes it clear he didn't turn around though

 

[Kachon123]

I mean the sequence is weird as hell because the Sky King does turn around but in the next chapter he... didn't?

The anime makes it clear he didn't turn around though

He looked up at Boros' ship, not Melzargard.

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

OP looks good. Pretty sure the OVA is anime-only, so I dunno about using it

 

[Excellence616]

OP makes sense

 

[Recon1511]

OP looks good. Pretty sure the OVA is anime-only, so I dunno about using it

Well its a case by case thing no? Also this same OVA seems to explain why Iaian doesn't have a prosthetic

 

[Recon1511]

Bump!

 

[Recon1511]

Bump 2

 

[Qawsedf234]

Well its a case by case thing no?

Have OVAs ever been used for scaling purposes? For the profile revisions, other than the OVA thing, I think it's alright.

 

[Recon1511]

Have OVAs ever been used for scaling purposes? For the profile revisions, other than the OVA thing, I think it's alright.

Well no, mainly because OPM OVAs are more comedy focused or lack any relevant scaling.

This OVA and the Garou vs Suiryu one are the only ones that actually matter for the purposes of the wiki I think...

This OVA in particular also seems to explain why Iaian doesn't bother with getting a prosthetic because Atomic Samurai states he is determined to "get stronger with one arm than he was with two"

 

[Recon1511]

Bump

 

[Recon1511]

Bump again. come on.

 

[Phsccarvalho]

Well no, mainly because OPM OVAs are more comedy focused or lack any relevant scaling.

This OVA and the Garou vs Suiryu one are the only ones that actually matter for the purposes of the wiki I think...

This OVA in particular also seems to explain why Iaian doesn't bother with getting a prosthetic because Atomic Samurai states he is determined to "get stronger with one arm than he was with two"

Are these OVAs canon?

 

[ZillertheBucko]

Are these OVAs canon?

The child emperor scene shows that one of them was confined canon, which does open up the possibility strongly that they all are
But I just say we use them for likely ratings rather than having it be a black and white “it absolutely is canon 100%” or “no it absolutely isn’t and you can’t use it”
Just makes the most sense

 

[Emerald]

We do use an ova only scene to justify Bang's stamina being lower due to old age

 

[Recon1511]

Are these OVAs canon?

Their canonicity is vague, the only one we know for sure is canon is the Road to Hero one

 

[Recon1511]

bump

 

[Qawsedf234]

We do use an ova only scene to justify Bang's stamina being lower due to old age

If we do then a possibly rating is fine I guess.

 

[Recon1511]

Huh, we do actually...

Bang (Silver Fang)

You do not need to know who the victor is within a battle using martial arts. That is the beauty of this art.Bang about Martial Arts Bang (バング) also known as Silver Fang (シルバーファング Shirubā Fangu) is the now-retired former S-Class rank 3 superhero for the Hero Association. Settled in Z-City, Bang...

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And the reference links to this same OVA

 

[ZillertheBucko]

If we do then a possibly rating is fine I guess.

I mean I think it's more likely than not in this case, since the anime "redrew" the fight to have bang's knockout from Melz be more significant, and then doubled down on it again with the OVA to further emphasize that he did take a little damage

also uh
well
wouldn't this technically mean the anime in general is more canon than we give it credit for? The dark matter arc especially..,

 

[Recon1511]

I mean the only thing the anime did was add an scene with Atomic Samurai parrying Melz attacks, Bang still recovers immediatly in both continuities

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

I mean the only thing the anime did was add an scene with Atomic Samurai parrying Melz attacks

It also added scenes of Melzargard reacting to attacks from Atomic Samurai and Bang

We do use an ova only scene to justify Bang's stamina being lower due to old age

Huh, we do actually...

Bang (Silver Fang)

You do not need to know who the victor is within a battle using martial arts. That is the beauty of this art.Bang about Martial Arts Bang (バング) also known as Silver Fang (シルバーファング Shirubā Fangu) is the now-retired former S-Class rank 3 superhero for the Hero Association. Settled in Z-City, Bang...

vsbattles.fandom.com

And the reference links to this same OVA

If so, then I think this proposal should be alright

Scaling:
His "Merged" key most relevant change is possibly scaling to a casual Bang for slightly damaging him and making him take the fight seriously. It's not really solid but Bang actually got serious after that hit.

Ia a season 2 OVA Bang also admits he took damage and that he "needed the jolt"

We have to determine the canonicity of this OVA, I think we agreed that it's a case by case scenario before so why don't we discuss about it?

 

[Recon1511]

Can I apply the changes then?

 

[Kachon123]

Probably, it's been accepted and Grace has long ended

 

[Recon1511]

Just want to make sure...

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

I think it should be fine to apply, yes

 

[Recon1511]

I think it should be fine to apply, yes

Applied the changes, if you or other staff could change his profile page name to "Melzargard" that'd be cool

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

Applied the changes, if you or other staff could change his profile page name to "Melzargard" that'd be cool

Done