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@KingTempest; thanks. I'll post an update here tomorrow.
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Oh... You mean when he brings down the meteor... Well that's trueNo, because it's not a direct product of Fujitora's Devil Fruit and we don't scale it to Fujitora's own statistics. It's an effect of his Devil Fruit over time on another object.
EXACTLY WHAT I SAID IN THE PREVIOUS CRT, I KNOW ITS GONNA BE BROUGHT UP AGAIN!I have some things to say about the whole Gear 3 Luffy and Diable Jambe scaling to Big Mom but I'll make a post on it tomorrow once I've gotten some of the work of the sandbox out of the way first.
The feat has been accepted. Implications on scaling have not yet been settled. As I said, I'll get into it when I have time and when the basics have been completed in a sandbox.EXACTLY WHAT I SAID IN THE PREVIOUS CRT, I KNOW ITS GONNA BE BROUGHT UP AGAIN!
It was already accepted bro.
Was them scaling to it not accepted?The feat has been accepted. Implications on scaling have not yet been settled.
Just because a feat is considered legitimate in a vacuum, doesn't mean it'll actually be used for scaling. Other factors need to be put into consideration, such as overall consistency and cohesion with the scaling chain at large. Feats need to be examined thoroughly in order to make sure that they won't cause issues or inconsistencies.Was them scaling to it not accepted?
alrightJust because a feat is considered legitimate in a vacuum, doesn't mean it'll actually be used for scaling. Other factors need to be put into consideration, such as overall consistency and cohesion with the scaling chain at large. Feats need to be examined thoroughly in order to make sure that they won't cause issues or inconsistencies.
Scaling for the God Tiers was re-sorted in KT's recent CRT.Just a question, why is it being presented them scaling to 6.32 tt, and not the 3.16 in the previous CRT
ohh i forgot abt thatScaling for the God Tiers was re-sorted in KT's recent CRT.
No worries. Thank you for posting.I can't speak on the scaling and consistency of One Piece God Tier values, I only performed this calc because meteors and space are cool. So, I leave that up to knowledgeable members to discuss.
And those Calc's were either casual or clashes that accidentally does the feat that gets calced...and the feats of the Top Tier and God Tier characters in general who vary from Small Country level to low-level Country level from the strongest characters so far.
also can you explain what you said more simpler? Didn't fully understandI don't feel strong reservations in suggesting that this is likely an outlier for Fujitora himself personally when we compare it against both Fujitora's other feats in the manga which we have multiple calcs for, and the feats of the Top Tier and God Tier characters in general who vary from Small Country level to low-level Country level from the strongest characters so far.
Basically, there's a high chance that it's an outlier because the god tiers of the verse have calcs that are low level Country Level.also can you explain what you said more simpler? Didn't fully understand
As for this, yeah I agree with your sentiments.I don't feel strong reservations in suggesting that this is likely an outlier for Fujitora himself personally when we compare it against both Fujitora's other feats in the manga which we have multiple calcs for, and the feats of the Top Tier and God Tier characters in general who vary from Small Country level to low-level Country level from the strongest characters so far.
Yee I don’t agree with that at all when the feats that has been calculated have nearly all been from something they didn’t intend to do or doing it casuallyBasically, there's a high chance that it's an outlier because the god tiers of the verse have calcs that are close to low level Country Level.
That is also a good point.Yee I don’t agree with that at all when the feats that has been calculated have nearly all been from something they didn’t intend to do or doing it casually
Which feats were they?and the Whitebeard feat was done fairly casually.
Prime Whitebeard's, he either shouted and caused a seaquake or just casually struck the air like the anime portrays.Which feats were they?
You think a casual Fujitora is five times more powerful than a casual Prime Whitebeard?As far as comparing it to the other god tiers feats I don't think it's an outlier at all.
The difference between Whitebeard's value and this is only 5 times and the Whitebeard feat was done fairly casually.
No I don't? I'd hardly say they're the same level of casual either considering Whitebeard's feat was done by him sitting down while drinking and not in combat (if that's what you mean)You think a casual Fujitora is five times more powerful than a casual Prime Whitebeard?
From the feats yes maybe but not what they have both shown what they can fully do while doing it casually… whitebeard didn’t intend to do that while fujitora didYou think a casual Fujitora is five times more powerful than a casual Prime Whitebeard?
Considering it's the power of Whitebeard's Devil Fruit and not the power of his body, I don't think any degree of casualness of Whitebeard's part concretely implies that this feat was "low effort" or "low power".No I don't? I'd hardly say they're the same level of casual either considering Whitebeard's feat was done by him sitting down while drinking and not in combat.
I disagree with that, Whitebeard when he performed the Shima Yurashi visibly experted his muscles and used both hands to grab the air and perform the quake.Considering it's the power of Whitebeard's Devil Fruit and not the power of his body, I don't think any degree of casualness of Whitebeard's part concretely implies that this feat was "low effort" or "low power".
So far as we know, this is the most powerful feat of the Gura Gura fruit currently.
It’s even stated in the databook that he never intended to destroy MarineFord or something which proves him holding back/being casual aswellI disagree with that, Whitebeard when he performed the Shima Yurashi visibly experted his muscles and used both hands to grab the air and perform the quake.
This feat was casual unless Whitebeard is making a bunch of movements and pushing his body for no reason.
This is the highest calced feat by Whitebeard but nothing suggests this is the most powerful quake he could perform, and if anything like I've said the way it was performed suggests otherwise.
https://vsbattles.com/threads/kizaru-vs-white-beard.125395/post-4208011It’s even stated in the databook that he never intended to destroy MarineFord or something which proves him holding back/being casual aswell
Whitebeard was off-screen when he did the feat in the manga, right? So we can't concretely say he made no movements in order to do the feat.I disagree with that, Whitebeard when he performed the Shima Yurashi visibly experted his muscles and used both hands to grab the air and perform the quake.
This feat was casual unless Whitebeard is making a bunch of movements and pushing his body for no reason.
This is the highest calced feat by Whitebeard but nothing suggests this is the most powerful quake he could perform, and if anything like I've said the way it was performed suggests otherwise.
For the Primebeard feat? In the manga the only implication we get is that he's angry and yelling since that's what we visually see and what his crew comment. And the fact that before the feat he's sitting down with a bottle in his hand and immediately afterwards he's still doing that.Whitebeard was off-screen when he did the feat in the manga, right? So we can't concretely say he made no movements in order to do the feat.
I mean, the fact that Fujitora isn't afraid at all of being hurt by the meteors he drops heavily implies that his durability scales.
At worst we can simply re-use KingTempest's original method, but instead of 8.64 seconds (which its based on the Anime) we can use 30 seconds as a Low End.I don't feel strong reservations in suggesting that this is likely an outlier for Fujitora himself personally when we compare it against both Fujitora's other feats in the manga which we have multiple calcs for, and the feats of the Top Tier and God Tier characters in general who vary from Small Country level to low-level Country level from the strongest characters so far.
What I meant was that he has no fear of being in the blast area of the meteors he drops, meaning that he is confident that if the meteor lands in an area where he'll still be affected by the impact (since some of his "attempted" targets on Dressrosa were pretty close to him), thus implying that he believes he can tank the meteor's impact.Why on Earth would he drop his most powerful meteorites on himself?
The only time he actually did that when it was a tiny meteor (and it only went towards him after Law cut the meteor up).
I see what you mean, but he can be far enough away to withstand just a bit of the energy of the impact without actually having to withstand the total energy of the meteor.What I meant was that he has no fear of being in the blast area of the meteors he drops, meaning that he is confident that if the meteor lands in an area where he'll still be affected by the impact (since some of his "attempted" targets on Dressrosa were pretty close to him), thus implying that he believes he can tank the meteor's impact.
The 8.64 seconds its based on the Anime, which its secondary canon for the most part, yes we know that currently with Wano we consider the Anime too, but this was during Dressrosa Arc before all of that.@Stefano4444; you mean change the way it is calced to that the results fall more in line with other calcs? Not sure how to feel about that... What makes the 30 seconds more reliable than the 8.64 seconds?