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Actually robin keys should also take into account her intelligence. When she gets smarter it should be in new keys imo
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One Piece Post-Timeskip Scaling and Calcs #3
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Robin doesn't show any upgrade in intelligence tho. She's the smartest crewmate but it isn't something that progresses like the power.
No ELS key for Robin then.
No ELS key for Robin then.
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@Damage Yeah, Robin's most notable victory at EL is against the fodder Spandam, and sadly it doesn't count. However, she does have notable Speed and Durability feats from that arc. And she's still above the Weakling Trio and is either on par or stronger than Franky, although after TB I would say stronger. Looking back, Robin probably does most of her feats in the entire Water 7 Saga in the Long Long Island Arc, but I know we're not looking at that arc due to its length.
And again, what about Fishman Island Key for the Straw Hats besides the Monster Trio? Or will it be included in the Dressrosa Saga Key?
And again, what about Fishman Island Key for the Straw Hats besides the Monster Trio? Or will it be included in the Dressrosa Saga Key?
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Well Robin slapped him and Spandam can wake up after getting attacked by Usopp and Franky. But yeah, it's pretty much worthless to mention.
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Damn. I was writing a huge post about the ratings for every Strawhat until Thriller Bark but for some reason it wasn't posted.
Now I feel depressed.
Edit: I'm just going to list the rest of the calcs we need:
Now I feel depressed.
Edit: I'm just going to list the rest of the calcs we need:
- Lassoo's bombs.
- Usopp's attack against Luffy.
- Kuma's Ursus Shock.
- Moriah splitting Thriller Bark.
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When you're writing long posts, it's a good idea to do it in notepad or Word first so that it's safe in case posting it doesn't work.
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Yeah, I do that a lot but in this case I was using my mobile.
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Speaking about calcs both Therefir and The Causality had agree with my revision of Alubarna's City Square size, due of this i have also put into evaluation my Recalc of Crocodile's Desert Sparda and Sandstorm, hoping that it will be accepted as well.
And if the case it get accepted too, while Sandstorm would still remain an outlier, the Desert Sparda would get a pretty neat AP upgrade, putting the feat at Town level, specifically at 9.20913886 Kilotons.
Adding the fact that Crocodile can create 4 of them when tired, that would put his AP at 36.8365554 Kilotons, which isn't that inconsistent as we had recently agree that Skypiea Top Tiers are Town level+.
And if the case it get accepted too, while Sandstorm would still remain an outlier, the Desert Sparda would get a pretty neat AP upgrade, putting the feat at Town level, specifically at 9.20913886 Kilotons.
Adding the fact that Crocodile can create 4 of them when tired, that would put his AP at 36.8365554 Kilotons, which isn't that inconsistent as we had recently agree that Skypiea Top Tiers are Town level+.
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We have concluded that unless Crocodile stacks the 4 DS in one we can't multiply the AP. It's not a 36KT attack but 4 9KT attacks.
Doesn't seem as outlier considering Enel is not too far above tho. This'd apply to Luffy unless someone want to say that Zoro and Luffy are comparable and therefore Sanji and Zoro are as well.
Doesn't seem as outlier considering Enel is not too far above tho. This'd apply to Luffy unless someone want to say that Zoro and Luffy are comparable and therefore Sanji and Zoro are as well.
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Couldn't the sandstorm be treated as Environmental Destruction, added to his AP but not his Striking Strength etc...Stefano4444 said:
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Even if your new calc is accepted, the old one is just as plausible because it uses measurements from the characters' heights themselves rather than estimating the size of the square.
So we'd have to have a discussion on which calc is preferable to use.
So we'd have to have a discussion on which calc is preferable to use.
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No, i have explained before why it cannot be treated as such.KobsterHope07 said:
1) Nearly (if not all) Crocodile's offensive techniques are based on his devil fruit power, the same ability used to create the sandstorm, meaning at least his most powerful attacks should scale.
2) This isn't a special technique similar to Doflamingo's Birdcage, it just a sandstorm created on the moment.
2) Crocodile didn't need specific conditions, power ups or preparation time to perform the feat, he did it casually and without effort.
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Even if they are based on the same Devil Fruit, that doesn't mean that all techniques have the same potency.
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Well Zoro did fought Luffy back in Whiskey Peak and the fight was even.Calaca Vs said:
And considering how Crocodile could easily spawn multiple Desert Sparda at the same, Town level doesn't seen to be limited to just Luffy and Crocodile.
So yeah i think Zoro, Sanji, Mr. 1 and Mr. 2 should scale, potentially even Robin and Pell as well.
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In any case it's ED or an outlier and Stefano is going by the latter.Damage3245 said:
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But this was just a random sandstorm that wasn't even used to directly attack anyone, are you telling me that something like the Desert Sparda, the Ground Drying or the Pesado do not scale despire Crocodile show to put more effort to perform those attacks compare with the sandstorm?Damage3245 said:
No, logically speaking the feat should scale his standard AP, everything point in that direction, so either its accepted like i have say or we must considered it as an outlier.
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Considering every other technique he has displayed is considerably lower than that, I would say the logical conclusion is that it is an outlier.
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Considering that 40MT is almost 3x stronger than Zoro cutting Pica, yes, it's a clear outlier.
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BTW we have at least two storm feats that we can use.
This is hardly calcable but it's enough to confirm that Linlin has the property to make storms with the power of her homies. Ch. 843.
This storm is pretty big and happened right after Cracker's defeat. Ch. 845.
And finally Nami's Black Ball drove Zeus to turn into a storm cloud that big. It'd scale to Nami and it's probably higher than the thunderbolt.
This is hardly calcable but it's enough to confirm that Linlin has the property to make storms with the power of her homies. Ch. 843.
This storm is pretty big and happened right after Cracker's defeat. Ch. 845.
And finally Nami's Black Ball drove Zeus to turn into a storm cloud that big. It'd scale to Nami and it's probably higher than the thunderbolt.
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Actually, it was Nami's Weather Egg that enhanced Zeus in that scene. She uses Black Ball the second time Zeus electrocutes Big Mom, which I don't think should scale to Nami.
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Now that Nami has Zeus it should scale.
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Well, I definitely agree that Weather Egg-Enhanced Zeus scales to Nami. I just don't think the second time with the Black Ball does since Black Ball simply manipulated Zeus to discharge the power he had while being used by Big Mom, which was greater than the power Zeus produced being directly used by Nami.
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I meant the Weather Egg actually.
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If you want to know, recently Ugarik had redone my calc and stated that RKE cannot be used as the sandstowm is not a solid object as its translational velocity will always be the same no matter how clouse it is to the axis of rotation.Calaca Vs said:
Now the new low end has been drop at 144.414 Kilotons, while the high end is 1.181 Megatons.
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I see.
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A quick update to let people know what's going on.
I'll be calcing Lassoo's other explosions in order to find durability feats for some Alabasta Arc characters and find an average of his AP.
After that I'm going to find some additional comparison images of Thriller Bark and combine them with Calaca's current estimates to see if we can find an average size for Thriller Bark.
This will help us calc Shadow Asgard Moria's attack and Kuma's Ursa Shock which should settle most of the Pre-Timeskip ratings.
After this bit we can move on past Thriller Bark and see which other ratings can be decided on in Marineford Arc and beyond.
I'll be calcing Lassoo's other explosions in order to find durability feats for some Alabasta Arc characters and find an average of his AP.
After that I'm going to find some additional comparison images of Thriller Bark and combine them with Calaca's current estimates to see if we can find an average size for Thriller Bark.
This will help us calc Shadow Asgard Moria's attack and Kuma's Ursa Shock which should settle most of the Pre-Timeskip ratings.
After this bit we can move on past Thriller Bark and see which other ratings can be decided on in Marineford Arc and beyond.
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@Damage In case this can be of some help to you, here's a list of the Straw Hats feats from Thriller Bark compiled from various Respect Threads. Some of them refer to Oars as Oz.
Thriller Bark
Luffy (credit: kirbin24):
Strength
Punches a three headed zombie dog into a wall https://imgur.com/uxdHtAH
Chews through a steel cage https://imgur.com/Guph7k2
Kicks through stone to hit Moriah https://imgur.com/ydCWSvc
Speed
Avoids several attacks from Shadow Asgard Moriah https://imgur.com/IKSHzX2
Durability/Endurance
Tanks three bites from a zombie dog https://imgur.com/iQbvpAp
Has the willpower to withstand having 100 shadows place in his body https://imgur.com/P7Y7M4A
Hardly injured after two hits from Shadow Asgard Moriah https://imgur.com/a/FCHmCxq who was capable of creating a huge fissure with a punch https://imgur.com/IMfQ2oZ
Gear 2
Hits Moriah with a Jet Rocket forcing him to spit up shadows https://imgur.com/ijWvzBO
Hits Moriah with a Jet Bazooka forcing him to spit up more shadows https://imgur.com/WAgLMEB
Combines Gear 2 and 3 and hits Shadow Asgard Moriah with an attack that topples a large tower https://imgur.com/a/BYUuTk4
Gear 3
Shatters a restrains Oars' spine with a Gigant Bazooka https://imgur.com/a/AO3p3tm
Nightmare Luffy
Saves Usopp and Nami from Oars' attacks at FTE speeds https://imgur.com/a/5uOnIHP
Casually blocks a punch from Oars, a massive giant https://imgur.com/SCZPdll
Sends Oars flying and flips him over with a single punch https://imgur.com/a/kyNDj1k
Grabs Oars by the hair and slams him into the ground over and over https://imgur.com/a/LEeSkhE
Cuts Oars before he can get a punch off https://imgur.com/a/UXmi2l6
Overpowers a blow from Oars and hits him with a barrage of punches https://imgur.com/a/TYthCpr
Zoro (credit: u/doctorgecko) :
Cutting
Cuts off one of Oz's massive fangs https://imgur.com/a/lCoIW
Cuts a tower to pieces https://imgur.com/a/dEqmw
Ranged Slices
During the fight with Ryuma the two's slashes caught into the walls and floor, eventually causing the entire floor of a tower to collapse https://imgur.com/a/n6Jt7
108 pound cannon leaves a massive hole in a wall https://imgur.com/a/7MB20
Just an upward slash manages to slash Oz's shoulder despite Zoro being on the ground https://imgur.com/a/YmHnL
Strength
Clashes evenly with Ryuma, producing powerful shock waves. https://imgur.com/a/xGqPD For reference Ryuma is strong enough to slice off the top of a tower https://imgur.com/a/7wr7s
Wields a pair of nunchucks made out of stone columns, and uses them to knock back Oz's massive arm
Pushes a punch from Oz aside with his strength https://imgur.com/a/v9toV and in addition to being huge Oz can easily punch through thick steel https://imgur.com/a/DillV
Speed
Blocks a jab from Ryuma. https://imgur.com/a/kUEoo For reference Ryuma is so fast that when slashes people they can walk for 3 meters before they even realized they've been cut. https://imgur.com/a/FzcKV Also worth noting that one of the people cut by Ryuma in that scan could react to bullets https://imgur.com/a/keN4k
Keeps up with Ryuma in a fight, even with a lack of good footing https://imgur.com/a/WEt2J
Runs up a falling spire and hits Ryuma with a leaping slash https://imgur.com/a/c6VeE
Rapidly spirals up Oz's arm https://imgur.com/a/Jy6hl
Blitzes Kuma https://imgur.com/a/enH5d
Durability/Endurance
Endures a strenuous battle against Ryuma https://imgur.com/a/ZGYbP
A kick from Oz sends him flying high into the air, and though Robin catches him before he hits the ground he ends up falling anyways when Oz slams part of a building into where he's hanging from. https://imgur.com/a/H1zJz And he's back up the next chapter https://imgur.com/a/U9iyF
Kicked through a stone wall by Oz https://imgur.com/a/xna6V and gets back up https://imgur.com/a/DcJD6
Sent flying hard enough to break stone https://imgur.com/a/pCnKQ
Takes Kuma's ursus shock, a massive shockwave that devastates the island sized ship Thriller Bark. https://imgur.com/a/mYmqG
Sent flying by an laser blast that can melt metal https://imgur.com/a/y8iFB
Then, in addition to all of the previously mentioned injuries he takes on all of the pain and fatigue Luffy endured during Thriller Bark... and survives. https://imgur.com/a/FweFy Though he is left in a really bad state afterwards https://imgur.com/a/pcEbI
Nami (credit: u/doctorgecko)
Perfect Clima-Tact
Lightning
Thunder Ball
Electrocutes Absalom while being carried by him https://i.imgur.com/zFaP8Ty.jpg and later KOs him after he's severely weakened by Sanji https://imgur.com/a/NCZg2
Black Cloud
Creates a black cloud that electrocutes Brook as he passes through, causing him to pierce through Oz in a combination with Robin and Usopp https://imgur.com/a/aWzY6
Lightning Strikes
Electrocutes and stuns the massive zombie Oz with a lightning strike from a cloud. Also does this from a good distance away. https://imgur.com/a/GP0Dy
Strength
Holds back a zombie https://i.imgur.com/WweFfAa.jpg
Speed
Dodges a strike from a large zombie https://imgur.com/a/HHQCz
Avoids strikes from Oz https://imgur.com/a/gIjQZ
Durability/Endurance
Falls 6.7 meters onto a bed of skeletons https://imgur.com/a/T6X6q
Survives Kuma's Ursus Shock attack, a shockwave that effects the entire island sized boat of Thriller Bark (though she is knocked unconscious) https://imgur.com/a/ceHgM
Usopp (credit: u/That_guy_why):
Strength
Carries a large metal ring http://i.imgur.com/zsSw0tg.png to create a pipeline http://i.imgur.com/FVge5iM.png
Speed
Runs away from a three-headed dog fast enough for the dog to lose sight for long enough for him to climb a tree. http://i.imgur.com/qNwsjHJ.png
Dodges a sword thrown at him out of the corner of his eye http://i.imgur.com/XTvLVCn.png
Dodges an axe-swing from behind http://i.imgur.com/vD4JCfW.png
Takes out several zombies in a short span of time http://i.imgur.com/OoXdiQJ.png
Durability/Endurance
Hit with several, small exploding ghosts https://imgur.com/a/gZjUd, and a single ghost can blow a chunk out of a stone wall http://i.imgur.com/VmyMqZV.png
Takes a beat-down by a stronger than average bear http://i.imgur.com/lrsFrqR.png
Hit with another salvo of ghosts after getting beat-down by a bear https://imgur.com/a/BWXPb
Hit by his own Fire Bird Star http://i.imgur.com/5yThEAH.png
Survives an Ursus Shock, a bomb comprised of compressed air that's large enough to engulf part of an island https://imgur.com/a/84eYY
Sanji (credit: Jerp D):
Strength
Sends Absalom, who weighs 300 kilos, flying http://*****************/read-online/One-Piece-Digital-Colored-Comics-chapter-463-page-15.html
Easily injures Absalom despite his modifications http://*****************/read-online/One-Piece-Digital-Colored-Comics-chapter-464-page-10.html
Makes Oars trip with his Anti-Matter Kick Course http://*****************/read-online/One-Piece-Digital-Colored-Comics-chapter-472-page-13.html
Kicks parts of a building flying towards Oars http://*****************/read-online/One-Piece-Digital-Colored-Comics-chapter-475-page-7.html
Deflect Oars's Giant Bazooka http://*****************/read-online/One-Piece-Digital-Colored-Comics-chapter-477-page-11.html
Speed
Easily dodges Absalom blast http://*****************/read-online/One-Piece-Digital- Colored-Comics-chapter-463-page-12.html http://*****************/read-online/One-Piece-Digital-Colored-Comics-chapter-463-page-13.html
Moves fast enough to redirect Absalom's bazooka blasts http://*****************/read-online/One-Piece-Digital-Colored-Comics-chapter-463-page-16.html
Creates afterimages with Extra Crushing Death http://*****************/read-online/One-Piece-Digital-Colored-Comics-chapter-464-page-13.html
Dodges an attack from Oars http://*****************/read-online/One-Piece-Digital-Colored-Comics-chapter-470-page-4.html
Durability/Endurance
Withstands a barrage of attacks from Absalom http://*****************/read-online/One-Piece-Digital-Colored-Comics-chapter-464-page-11.html
He's fine after being stabbed with a knife http://*****************/read-online/One-Piece-Digital-Colored-Comics-chapter-464-page-12.html
Bounces off the ground and gets swatted down like a fly by Oars. http://*****************/read-online/One-Piece-Digital-Colored-Comics-chapter-470-page-5.html http://*****************/read-online/One-Piece-Digital-Colored-Comics-chapter-470-page-6.html
Takes a barrage of blows from Oars http://*****************/read-online/One-Piece-Digital-Colored-Comics-chapter-477-page-17.html, and he recovers in a short span of time http://*****************/read-online/One-Piece-Digital-Colored-Comics-chapter-480-page-8.html
Tanks Kuma's Ursus Shock http://*****************/read-online/One-Piece-Digital-Colored-Comics-chapter-485-page-12.html
Chopper (credit: u/That_guy_why):
Strength
Lifting
[Heavy] Hurls Zoro up a few stories http://i.imgur.com/6FLkeuY.png
Striking
[Heavy] Knocks a zombie's head off http://i.imgur.com/yuMUPU3.png
[Arm] Leaves a large imprint on Oars' arm https://imgur.com/a/98SYy
Speed
[Various] Transforms to dodge Oars' surprise attack http://i.imgur.com/X406GzU.png
[Heavy] Leaps a short distance to catch Hogback http://i.imgur.com/6F4GNZz.png
Durability/Endurance
[Heavy] Tanks getting crushed into a wall by a large flail http://i.imgur.com/B8Xcptb.png
[Walk] Down for a second after being hit by a Rocket Launcher https://imgur.com/a/6TpTm
[Heavy] Takes a few hits from Cindry https://imgur.com/a/kKAxf
[Heavy] Survives a hit from Oars, only to get back up next chapter https://imgur.com/a/XwXs6
[Brain] Takes a hit from Oars and gets back up a couple pages later https://imgur.com/a/BTW5w
[Heavy] Survives a flurry of punches from Oars http://i.imgur.com/cqubiuy.png
[Brain] Survives Kuma's Ursus Shock https://imgur.com/a/M0pFu
Robi (credit: mostly doctorgecko):
Strength
Manages to hold off an invisible Absalom with her devil fruit powers while he restrains her real arms behind her back. https://********.org/chapter/65026/14 And Absalom weighs 300 kilos due to his modified body. http://*****************/read-online/One-Piece-Digital-Colored-Comics-chapter-463-page-15.html (I found this)
Creates a pair of wings out of arms that allow her to fly for five seconds. Said wings can support both her weight and Franky's, who being a cyborg partially composed of steel is probably pretty heavy https://imgur.com/a/8AjG7
Repeatedly restrained Zombie Cindry with ease http://*****************/read-online/One-Piece-Digital-Colored-Comics-chapter-461-page-5.html http://*****************/read-online/One-Piece-Digital-Colored-Comics-chapter-469-page-3.html http://*****************/read-online/One-Piece-Digital-Colored-Comics-chapter-469-page-4.html For reference, Cindry was strong enough to harm Heavy Point Chopper http://*****************/read-online/One-Piece-Digital-Colored-Comics-chapter-468-page-11.html http://*****************/read-online/One-Piece-Digital-Colored-Comics-chapter-468-page-12.html (I found these)
Sprouts a long pillar of legs under Chopper's legs that lift both Heavy Point Chopper and Dr. Hogback high into the air. https://imgur.com/grCJBYH
Creates a net of arms that catches Zoro after he's sent flying extremely high into the air. https://imgur.com/a/oUzAI
Uses a large tree of arms to pin Oz's arm to his back. https://imgur.com/ojrGebE
Uses a line of arms to send Brook spinning at very high speed. https://imgur.com/a/4eun0
Manages to pin down Gekko Moriah (who is over 20 ft tall) while he's inside of Oz, preventing him from moving or manipulating his shadow. https://imgur.com/a/Ikxal She is the only person besides Luffy to land a hit on the warlord during the arc, and if it wasn't for his ability to switch places with his shadow she likely would have snapped his back. https://imgur.com/Tj7DLct
Causes Moriah pain with her chokehold http://*****************/read-online/One-Piece-Digital-Colored-Comics-chapter-477-page-2.html (I found this)
Speed
Uses Franky like a footstool to jump to a high ledge. https://imgur.com/a/929I8 (this is after Robin's Wings deactivate and Franky reels them back in towards the castle)
Uses two lines of arms to quickly pull Brook away from a falling chunk of a building Oars had punched to counter Sanji's Jenga Cannon. https://********.org/chapter/65186/10 (I found this)
Saves Nami from Oz's punch. https://imgur.com/a/rj5me
Durability/Endurance
Oz hits her and other Straw Hat pirates with part of a building https://imgur.com/a/tX1x0 and she's up and fighting in the next chapter. https://imgur.com/Qdd3KQr
Takes damage from Moriah's Brick Bats http://*****************/read-online/One-Piece-Digital-Colored-Comics-chapter-477-page-3.html http://*****************/read-online/One-Piece-Digital-Colored-Comics-chapter-477-page-4.html, which can even hurt Base Luffy http://*****************/read-online/One-Piece-Digital-Colored-Comics-chapter-463-page-7.html http://*****************/read-online/One-Piece-Digital-Colored-Comics-chapter-463-page-8.html, but maintains her submission hold on him throughout the attack. http://*****************/read-online/One-Piece-Digital-Colored-Comics-chapter-477-page-5.html
Has her shadow stolen by Gekko Moriah https://imgur.com/a/g11bU, and regains consciousness in a short span of time. https://imgur.com/XLBE9Fu For reference, most people are out for two days when they lose their shadow https://imgur.com/o5yLSIG. (though it is possible to wake people up beforehand https://imgur.com/a/yToKv).
Survives Kuma's Ursus Shock. https://imgur.com/a/6yU8p
Franky (credit: u/mrtangelo)
Strength
Uses two pillars as nunchucks https://imgur.com/a/5wdlZ
Franky and Chopper manage to stun Oars with a double punch http://i.imgur.com/sHeBqan.png
Speed
Dodges a zombie knight's sword attack http://i.imgur.com/r2b58W4.png
Evades a kick from Oars while carrying Brook http://i.imgur.com/AKosJQo.png
Durability/Endurance
Survives a building being smashed on him http://i.imgur.com/1E0oUZB.png
Takes a kick from Oars http://i.imgur.com/HOyzELU.png
Survives Kuma's Ursus Shock https://imgur.com/a/6yU8p
Brook (credit: u/That_guy_why)
Strength
Carries Usopp and a large bag of salt http://i.imgur.com/CfNbVF7.png
Throws Luffy a short distance http://i.imgur.com/6osx1NZ.png
Speed
Brook takes out several zombies with his sword and salt before they can react http://i.imgur.com/cRcGyjR.png
His light body combined with his speed allows him to run on water, partially circumventing his water weakness http://i.imgur.com/BUrHzhi.png
Saves Usopp from an attack by Oars https://imgur.com/a/rIncY
Durability/Endurance
Fell from a height large enough to leave an impact crater https://imgur.com/a/3ibAZ
Survives having a building smashed into him http://i.imgur.com/5t8Zlop.png
He was reduced to crawling from that attack, and recovered with Milk http://i.imgur.com/lKhS2nM.png
Electrified for a combination attack against Oars http://i.imgur.com/KaZTF7d.png
Stomped on by Oars http://i.imgur.com/PMaAPhw.png
Survives Kuma's Ursus Shock Attack https://imgur.com/a/MEf9P
He remained conscious afterwards to see Zoro and Sanji bargain for Luffy's life http://i.imgur.com/ymlf6P3.png
Thriller Bark
Luffy (credit: kirbin24):
Strength
Punches a three headed zombie dog into a wall https://imgur.com/uxdHtAH
Chews through a steel cage https://imgur.com/Guph7k2
Kicks through stone to hit Moriah https://imgur.com/ydCWSvc
Speed
Avoids several attacks from Shadow Asgard Moriah https://imgur.com/IKSHzX2
Durability/Endurance
Tanks three bites from a zombie dog https://imgur.com/iQbvpAp
Has the willpower to withstand having 100 shadows place in his body https://imgur.com/P7Y7M4A
Hardly injured after two hits from Shadow Asgard Moriah https://imgur.com/a/FCHmCxq who was capable of creating a huge fissure with a punch https://imgur.com/IMfQ2oZ
Gear 2
Hits Moriah with a Jet Rocket forcing him to spit up shadows https://imgur.com/ijWvzBO
Hits Moriah with a Jet Bazooka forcing him to spit up more shadows https://imgur.com/WAgLMEB
Combines Gear 2 and 3 and hits Shadow Asgard Moriah with an attack that topples a large tower https://imgur.com/a/BYUuTk4
Gear 3
Shatters a restrains Oars' spine with a Gigant Bazooka https://imgur.com/a/AO3p3tm
Nightmare Luffy
Saves Usopp and Nami from Oars' attacks at FTE speeds https://imgur.com/a/5uOnIHP
Casually blocks a punch from Oars, a massive giant https://imgur.com/SCZPdll
Sends Oars flying and flips him over with a single punch https://imgur.com/a/kyNDj1k
Grabs Oars by the hair and slams him into the ground over and over https://imgur.com/a/LEeSkhE
Cuts Oars before he can get a punch off https://imgur.com/a/UXmi2l6
Overpowers a blow from Oars and hits him with a barrage of punches https://imgur.com/a/TYthCpr
Zoro (credit: u/doctorgecko) :
Cutting
Cuts off one of Oz's massive fangs https://imgur.com/a/lCoIW
Cuts a tower to pieces https://imgur.com/a/dEqmw
Ranged Slices
During the fight with Ryuma the two's slashes caught into the walls and floor, eventually causing the entire floor of a tower to collapse https://imgur.com/a/n6Jt7
108 pound cannon leaves a massive hole in a wall https://imgur.com/a/7MB20
Just an upward slash manages to slash Oz's shoulder despite Zoro being on the ground https://imgur.com/a/YmHnL
Strength
Clashes evenly with Ryuma, producing powerful shock waves. https://imgur.com/a/xGqPD For reference Ryuma is strong enough to slice off the top of a tower https://imgur.com/a/7wr7s
Wields a pair of nunchucks made out of stone columns, and uses them to knock back Oz's massive arm
Pushes a punch from Oz aside with his strength https://imgur.com/a/v9toV and in addition to being huge Oz can easily punch through thick steel https://imgur.com/a/DillV
Speed
Blocks a jab from Ryuma. https://imgur.com/a/kUEoo For reference Ryuma is so fast that when slashes people they can walk for 3 meters before they even realized they've been cut. https://imgur.com/a/FzcKV Also worth noting that one of the people cut by Ryuma in that scan could react to bullets https://imgur.com/a/keN4k
Keeps up with Ryuma in a fight, even with a lack of good footing https://imgur.com/a/WEt2J
Runs up a falling spire and hits Ryuma with a leaping slash https://imgur.com/a/c6VeE
Rapidly spirals up Oz's arm https://imgur.com/a/Jy6hl
Blitzes Kuma https://imgur.com/a/enH5d
Durability/Endurance
Endures a strenuous battle against Ryuma https://imgur.com/a/ZGYbP
A kick from Oz sends him flying high into the air, and though Robin catches him before he hits the ground he ends up falling anyways when Oz slams part of a building into where he's hanging from. https://imgur.com/a/H1zJz And he's back up the next chapter https://imgur.com/a/U9iyF
Kicked through a stone wall by Oz https://imgur.com/a/xna6V and gets back up https://imgur.com/a/DcJD6
Sent flying hard enough to break stone https://imgur.com/a/pCnKQ
Takes Kuma's ursus shock, a massive shockwave that devastates the island sized ship Thriller Bark. https://imgur.com/a/mYmqG
Sent flying by an laser blast that can melt metal https://imgur.com/a/y8iFB
Then, in addition to all of the previously mentioned injuries he takes on all of the pain and fatigue Luffy endured during Thriller Bark... and survives. https://imgur.com/a/FweFy Though he is left in a really bad state afterwards https://imgur.com/a/pcEbI
Nami (credit: u/doctorgecko)
Perfect Clima-Tact
Lightning
Thunder Ball
Electrocutes Absalom while being carried by him https://i.imgur.com/zFaP8Ty.jpg and later KOs him after he's severely weakened by Sanji https://imgur.com/a/NCZg2
Black Cloud
Creates a black cloud that electrocutes Brook as he passes through, causing him to pierce through Oz in a combination with Robin and Usopp https://imgur.com/a/aWzY6
Lightning Strikes
Electrocutes and stuns the massive zombie Oz with a lightning strike from a cloud. Also does this from a good distance away. https://imgur.com/a/GP0Dy
Strength
Holds back a zombie https://i.imgur.com/WweFfAa.jpg
Speed
Dodges a strike from a large zombie https://imgur.com/a/HHQCz
Avoids strikes from Oz https://imgur.com/a/gIjQZ
Durability/Endurance
Falls 6.7 meters onto a bed of skeletons https://imgur.com/a/T6X6q
Survives Kuma's Ursus Shock attack, a shockwave that effects the entire island sized boat of Thriller Bark (though she is knocked unconscious) https://imgur.com/a/ceHgM
Usopp (credit: u/That_guy_why):
Strength
Carries a large metal ring http://i.imgur.com/zsSw0tg.png to create a pipeline http://i.imgur.com/FVge5iM.png
Speed
Runs away from a three-headed dog fast enough for the dog to lose sight for long enough for him to climb a tree. http://i.imgur.com/qNwsjHJ.png
Dodges a sword thrown at him out of the corner of his eye http://i.imgur.com/XTvLVCn.png
Dodges an axe-swing from behind http://i.imgur.com/vD4JCfW.png
Takes out several zombies in a short span of time http://i.imgur.com/OoXdiQJ.png
Durability/Endurance
Hit with several, small exploding ghosts https://imgur.com/a/gZjUd, and a single ghost can blow a chunk out of a stone wall http://i.imgur.com/VmyMqZV.png
Takes a beat-down by a stronger than average bear http://i.imgur.com/lrsFrqR.png
Hit with another salvo of ghosts after getting beat-down by a bear https://imgur.com/a/BWXPb
Hit by his own Fire Bird Star http://i.imgur.com/5yThEAH.png
Survives an Ursus Shock, a bomb comprised of compressed air that's large enough to engulf part of an island https://imgur.com/a/84eYY
Sanji (credit: Jerp D):
Strength
Sends Absalom, who weighs 300 kilos, flying http://*****************/read-online/One-Piece-Digital-Colored-Comics-chapter-463-page-15.html
Easily injures Absalom despite his modifications http://*****************/read-online/One-Piece-Digital-Colored-Comics-chapter-464-page-10.html
Makes Oars trip with his Anti-Matter Kick Course http://*****************/read-online/One-Piece-Digital-Colored-Comics-chapter-472-page-13.html
Kicks parts of a building flying towards Oars http://*****************/read-online/One-Piece-Digital-Colored-Comics-chapter-475-page-7.html
Deflect Oars's Giant Bazooka http://*****************/read-online/One-Piece-Digital-Colored-Comics-chapter-477-page-11.html
Speed
Easily dodges Absalom blast http://*****************/read-online/One-Piece-Digital- Colored-Comics-chapter-463-page-12.html http://*****************/read-online/One-Piece-Digital-Colored-Comics-chapter-463-page-13.html
Moves fast enough to redirect Absalom's bazooka blasts http://*****************/read-online/One-Piece-Digital-Colored-Comics-chapter-463-page-16.html
Creates afterimages with Extra Crushing Death http://*****************/read-online/One-Piece-Digital-Colored-Comics-chapter-464-page-13.html
Dodges an attack from Oars http://*****************/read-online/One-Piece-Digital-Colored-Comics-chapter-470-page-4.html
Durability/Endurance
Withstands a barrage of attacks from Absalom http://*****************/read-online/One-Piece-Digital-Colored-Comics-chapter-464-page-11.html
He's fine after being stabbed with a knife http://*****************/read-online/One-Piece-Digital-Colored-Comics-chapter-464-page-12.html
Bounces off the ground and gets swatted down like a fly by Oars. http://*****************/read-online/One-Piece-Digital-Colored-Comics-chapter-470-page-5.html http://*****************/read-online/One-Piece-Digital-Colored-Comics-chapter-470-page-6.html
Takes a barrage of blows from Oars http://*****************/read-online/One-Piece-Digital-Colored-Comics-chapter-477-page-17.html, and he recovers in a short span of time http://*****************/read-online/One-Piece-Digital-Colored-Comics-chapter-480-page-8.html
Tanks Kuma's Ursus Shock http://*****************/read-online/One-Piece-Digital-Colored-Comics-chapter-485-page-12.html
Chopper (credit: u/That_guy_why):
Strength
Lifting
[Heavy] Hurls Zoro up a few stories http://i.imgur.com/6FLkeuY.png
Striking
[Heavy] Knocks a zombie's head off http://i.imgur.com/yuMUPU3.png
[Arm] Leaves a large imprint on Oars' arm https://imgur.com/a/98SYy
Speed
[Various] Transforms to dodge Oars' surprise attack http://i.imgur.com/X406GzU.png
[Heavy] Leaps a short distance to catch Hogback http://i.imgur.com/6F4GNZz.png
Durability/Endurance
[Heavy] Tanks getting crushed into a wall by a large flail http://i.imgur.com/B8Xcptb.png
[Walk] Down for a second after being hit by a Rocket Launcher https://imgur.com/a/6TpTm
[Heavy] Takes a few hits from Cindry https://imgur.com/a/kKAxf
[Heavy] Survives a hit from Oars, only to get back up next chapter https://imgur.com/a/XwXs6
[Brain] Takes a hit from Oars and gets back up a couple pages later https://imgur.com/a/BTW5w
[Heavy] Survives a flurry of punches from Oars http://i.imgur.com/cqubiuy.png
[Brain] Survives Kuma's Ursus Shock https://imgur.com/a/M0pFu
Robi (credit: mostly doctorgecko):
Strength
Manages to hold off an invisible Absalom with her devil fruit powers while he restrains her real arms behind her back. https://********.org/chapter/65026/14 And Absalom weighs 300 kilos due to his modified body. http://*****************/read-online/One-Piece-Digital-Colored-Comics-chapter-463-page-15.html (I found this)
Creates a pair of wings out of arms that allow her to fly for five seconds. Said wings can support both her weight and Franky's, who being a cyborg partially composed of steel is probably pretty heavy https://imgur.com/a/8AjG7
Repeatedly restrained Zombie Cindry with ease http://*****************/read-online/One-Piece-Digital-Colored-Comics-chapter-461-page-5.html http://*****************/read-online/One-Piece-Digital-Colored-Comics-chapter-469-page-3.html http://*****************/read-online/One-Piece-Digital-Colored-Comics-chapter-469-page-4.html For reference, Cindry was strong enough to harm Heavy Point Chopper http://*****************/read-online/One-Piece-Digital-Colored-Comics-chapter-468-page-11.html http://*****************/read-online/One-Piece-Digital-Colored-Comics-chapter-468-page-12.html (I found these)
Sprouts a long pillar of legs under Chopper's legs that lift both Heavy Point Chopper and Dr. Hogback high into the air. https://imgur.com/grCJBYH
Creates a net of arms that catches Zoro after he's sent flying extremely high into the air. https://imgur.com/a/oUzAI
Uses a large tree of arms to pin Oz's arm to his back. https://imgur.com/ojrGebE
Uses a line of arms to send Brook spinning at very high speed. https://imgur.com/a/4eun0
Manages to pin down Gekko Moriah (who is over 20 ft tall) while he's inside of Oz, preventing him from moving or manipulating his shadow. https://imgur.com/a/Ikxal She is the only person besides Luffy to land a hit on the warlord during the arc, and if it wasn't for his ability to switch places with his shadow she likely would have snapped his back. https://imgur.com/Tj7DLct
Causes Moriah pain with her chokehold http://*****************/read-online/One-Piece-Digital-Colored-Comics-chapter-477-page-2.html (I found this)
Speed
Uses Franky like a footstool to jump to a high ledge. https://imgur.com/a/929I8 (this is after Robin's Wings deactivate and Franky reels them back in towards the castle)
Uses two lines of arms to quickly pull Brook away from a falling chunk of a building Oars had punched to counter Sanji's Jenga Cannon. https://********.org/chapter/65186/10 (I found this)
Saves Nami from Oz's punch. https://imgur.com/a/rj5me
Durability/Endurance
Oz hits her and other Straw Hat pirates with part of a building https://imgur.com/a/tX1x0 and she's up and fighting in the next chapter. https://imgur.com/Qdd3KQr
Takes damage from Moriah's Brick Bats http://*****************/read-online/One-Piece-Digital-Colored-Comics-chapter-477-page-3.html http://*****************/read-online/One-Piece-Digital-Colored-Comics-chapter-477-page-4.html, which can even hurt Base Luffy http://*****************/read-online/One-Piece-Digital-Colored-Comics-chapter-463-page-7.html http://*****************/read-online/One-Piece-Digital-Colored-Comics-chapter-463-page-8.html, but maintains her submission hold on him throughout the attack. http://*****************/read-online/One-Piece-Digital-Colored-Comics-chapter-477-page-5.html
Has her shadow stolen by Gekko Moriah https://imgur.com/a/g11bU, and regains consciousness in a short span of time. https://imgur.com/XLBE9Fu For reference, most people are out for two days when they lose their shadow https://imgur.com/o5yLSIG. (though it is possible to wake people up beforehand https://imgur.com/a/yToKv).
Survives Kuma's Ursus Shock. https://imgur.com/a/6yU8p
Franky (credit: u/mrtangelo)
Strength
Uses two pillars as nunchucks https://imgur.com/a/5wdlZ
Franky and Chopper manage to stun Oars with a double punch http://i.imgur.com/sHeBqan.png
Speed
Dodges a zombie knight's sword attack http://i.imgur.com/r2b58W4.png
Evades a kick from Oars while carrying Brook http://i.imgur.com/AKosJQo.png
Durability/Endurance
Survives a building being smashed on him http://i.imgur.com/1E0oUZB.png
Takes a kick from Oars http://i.imgur.com/HOyzELU.png
Survives Kuma's Ursus Shock https://imgur.com/a/6yU8p
Brook (credit: u/That_guy_why)
Strength
Carries Usopp and a large bag of salt http://i.imgur.com/CfNbVF7.png
Throws Luffy a short distance http://i.imgur.com/6osx1NZ.png
Speed
Brook takes out several zombies with his sword and salt before they can react http://i.imgur.com/cRcGyjR.png
His light body combined with his speed allows him to run on water, partially circumventing his water weakness http://i.imgur.com/BUrHzhi.png
Saves Usopp from an attack by Oars https://imgur.com/a/rIncY
Durability/Endurance
Fell from a height large enough to leave an impact crater https://imgur.com/a/3ibAZ
Survives having a building smashed into him http://i.imgur.com/5t8Zlop.png
He was reduced to crawling from that attack, and recovered with Milk http://i.imgur.com/lKhS2nM.png
Electrified for a combination attack against Oars http://i.imgur.com/KaZTF7d.png
Stomped on by Oars http://i.imgur.com/PMaAPhw.png
Survives Kuma's Ursus Shock Attack https://imgur.com/a/MEf9P
He remained conscious afterwards to see Zoro and Sanji bargain for Luffy's life http://i.imgur.com/ymlf6P3.png
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Thanks for the assistance. I'll be looking at the Thriller Bark feats tonight and I'll try to calc any that are appropriate.
I think I've got a couple methods for figuring out the size of Thriller Bark too.
I think I've got a couple methods for figuring out the size of Thriller Bark too.
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Glad I could help.
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Pretty sure nobody from the preskip SH scales to Asgard Moriah though(apart from Luffy's physical resistance)
He was shown to be above even nightmare luffy(1000 shadows vs 100 shadows), and the only way the SH won was because Moriah couldn't control that many shadows.
He was shown to be above even nightmare luffy(1000 shadows vs 100 shadows), and the only way the SH won was because Moriah couldn't control that many shadows.
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I'm working on profiles for Enel's priests because from them relies the scaling for the Strawhats in Skypiea Saga.
Right now I've them listed as At least Low 7-C to those that uses Impact Dials which is 10x weaker than a Reject Dial listed at 12.6KT and 7-C to those that fought and harmed Wiper.
But IIRC Stefano made a calc about the beanstalk so I think the Reject Dial should be recalced as well if the results are different.
Right now I've them listed as At least Low 7-C to those that uses Impact Dials which is 10x weaker than a Reject Dial listed at 12.6KT and 7-C to those that fought and harmed Wiper.
But IIRC Stefano made a calc about the beanstalk so I think the Reject Dial should be recalced as well if the results are different.
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Okay, good work.
I'm currently going through the Thriller Bark arc again.
I'm currently going through the Thriller Bark arc again.
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Have we done with pre-time skip yet?
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Nope.
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We're getting close to the end fortunately. All that's left to sort through is Thriller Bark which should provide the majority of the ratings we're missing for Pre-Timeskip.
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And we need to discuss about ratings for Low and Mid Tiers for Arabasta and Skypiea.
For the latters the best option it's scaling characters from the Impact Dial.
For the latters the best option it's scaling characters from the Impact Dial.
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Yeah, I wish I could find more useful feats for the Low Tiers and Mid Tiers, but so far all I've found is Wall level, Small Building level and Building level feats.
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