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It was used for the meteorites for a while at least- just different methods popped up is all, and earlier arcs' scaling changed things.
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One Piece: Gomu Gomu no Bajrang Gun reconsideration
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Neutral, leaning towards disagree. There is slight inconsistency but I wouldn’t say it’s enough to nullify the calculation
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Tfw the actual strongest attack in the verse is so strong it broke vsWiki's earthquake formula and is thousands of times weaker than it actually would be otherwise
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I’m say it doesn’t matter if the two are portrayed as comparable when everything surrounding it is completely inconsistent.
the island is clearly portrayed smaller here than what we currently accept.
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And that's where you solidified that you have no idea what you're talking about
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It really makes sense seems completely ok that Whitebeard marineford tsunami well he is smaller than a full onigashima horn
So basically we are saying that Onigashima horn's width is almost the size of a tsunami that is bigger than Marineford I guess the entirety of Marineford could have happened on that horn keep in mind that onigashima has 2 horns.
How does that makes sense?
So basically we are saying that Onigashima horn's width is almost the size of a tsunami that is bigger than Marineford I guess the entirety of Marineford could have happened on that horn keep in mind that onigashima has 2 horns.
How does that makes sense?
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Your argument didn't even make sense
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All of this is incredulityIt really makes sense seems completely ok that Whitebeard marineford tsunami well he is smaller than a full onigashima horn
So basically we are saying that Onigashima horn's width is almost the size of a tsunami that is bigger than Marineford I guess the entirety of Marineford could have happened on that horn keep in mind that onigashima has 2 horns.
How does that makes sense?
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Is supposed to show you how big the scales are both of them were the place of a war and both of them are islands with a single building were an army lives but somehow a single horn of onigashima by the scales is bigger than entirety of marineford. The same horn that is just decorative.
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I'm confused on how Marineford and Whitebeard was brought into this.It really makes sense seems completely ok that Whitebeard marineford tsunami well he is smaller than a full onigashima horn
So basically we are saying that Onigashima horn's width is almost the size of a tsunami that is bigger than Marineford I guess the entirety of Marineford could have happened on that horn keep in mind that onigashima has 2 horns.
How does that makes sense?
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Yes and?
Marineford isn't that big. Onigashima is stated to be surrounded by mountain ranges. Even in canon it's considered bigger than entire mountains by the characters
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It's well known that things in One Piece, such as big horns, and here me out on this...have absurd sizes, such as a horn being bigger than Marineford.It really makes sense seems completely ok that Whitebeard marineford tsunami well he is smaller than a full onigashima horn
So basically we are saying that Onigashima horn's width is almost the size of a tsunami that is bigger than Marineford I guess the entirety of Marineford could have happened on that horn keep in mind that onigashima has 2 horns.
How does that makes sense?
It's not new.
You saying it doesn't make sense because you don't like it is not a valid argument.
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People to this day still stuck on sky island being the highest thing when Zunesha stands 10 kilometers taller
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Why??? The space on the war Marineford the same war that had an Younkou vs the biggest marine base at that point. So are you telling me that its ok that White beard fleet with huge ships much bigger than Sunny by the way should somehow be smaller than a single horn from another younkous building? And thats ok? By the way Onigashima using the horn as a scale should be somewhere around space outside of the worlds atmosphere not just 10 or 30Km.
My point is the size of onigashima is wrong and it should be recalced not just the size of Luffy's fist we need a much more consistent size for Onigashima than a horn that is bigger than Marineford.
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Brother your inability to believe that Onigashima is larger than MF is not a relevant point whatsoever. It is pure incredulity. If you wanna argue MF is comparable in size, grab a scan or sumn that states that. Although I doubt one exists.
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Saying the immense size of something, in a world where everything is so super-sized it'd give McDonald's a run for their money, "doesn't feel right" is not a valid argument.
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EVERYTHING regarding these panels is inconsistent. Including the fist. Just because the fist continuously looks big doesn't matter, when EVERYTHING in these panels consistently looks big despite us knowing they're much smaller when drawn normally. Luffy's fist couldn't even dwarf Flaming Kaido narratively speaking.
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Its not about onigashima being bigger than marineford its being massively bigger than marineford like at least 20 times.
A lot of scans here were shown that prove the onigashima size its very and completely inconsistent including one time with king being almost the size of one horn.
My problem is that somehow wasnt enought for you to think better about about it. My comparison with Marineford is an attemp to make you think that maybe those number might not make sense.
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How about you respond to what I’m saying.
Either the Island is too small or everything is too big, regardless my point stands.
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That’s entirely irrelevant. Onigashima could be 1000x bigger, 1.1x bigger, etc etc etc etc. you saying “woah I can’t believe it’s so big” isn’t an argument, it’s incredulity
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OP and his group: Don't give any legitimate reasons to disregard the calc, and have zero staff agreeing with them.
OP and his group: Welp, we win, let's disregard the calc.
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We aren't disregarding shit all because you wanna wait for a tertiary source to "clarify"
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I was all for waiting for the anime but King apparently doesn't know how the One Pice anime canon works
Also I just got here and OP sucks at making his arguments
" In terms of canon material, this wiki deems the manga as the primary canon. The anime is considered secondary canon on a case by case basis"
"Since we have confirmation that Oda approves certain scenes in the anime, we've decided to take the anime as canon in the areas where it perfectly or similarly represents the manga"
IE it's canon unless it's completely different from what's shown in the manga
IE it can be used
You argument against using the anime doesn't work in this case
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You are the one that needs an argument explain to me why is a horn the size of king any less relieable than calcing like 5 different scans different objects to reach a absurd measure? At least the one with king is a single panel and not you somehow thinking it makes sense for a person that has tons of inconsistent sizes having magically hit the right sizes in 4 to 5 different panels.
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I'm the one who made the standards on the anime canon, please check yourself.
The anime wasn't even allowed to be used for supporting canon before I came along.
Go take a week to research where half that verse page you're quoting came from. It came from me.
We take it with a grain of salt when the manga gives a perfect alternative.
We don't use the anime to counter pixelscaling of inconsistent scans. I don't know who told you that bullshit but they lied to you
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This is relevant to our conversation how?
Far from perfect but go off
We do this with nearly every verse on the site that has an anime, this is how we get official timeframes for tons of calculation for verses
If the anime has more consistent sizes and it follows the manga's order of events then we use the anime, that's how it's always been and I don't see why One Piece is an exception to this
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Too bad, One Piece's anime was so disconnected from the manga that the anime wasn't even allowed to be used until, again, I came along, and revised that
Just like we do with other manga like Yu Yu Hakusho
Timeframes and sizes are not the same
We won't use the anime's pixelscaling. Simple.
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We don't use Yu Yu hakusho because it has wildly different feats in the anime over the manga, this is a moot point
Also good job that you made it to where the One Piece anime could be used for scaling, it's because of that that we can now have this conversation
I guarantee you that when it comes out in the anime and we get an official timeframe for the calc there will be 50 CRT's trying to upgrade the calc and I'm sure you'll change your mind then
Regardless YOU don't get to decide whether we can use it or not, that is up to the community
So please stop commenting as if your the only person who's opinion matters
We will decide when the anime releases what to do with it
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Because no one says that island can't be smaller except for you.
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It's not meant to. That attack was supposed to be its match. Kaido's own dragon body inside it is portrayed different sizes. Again, smaller objects matter less in the grand scheme of comparing ISLANDS. That's just Oda's art style.
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Damn, sorta like One Piece
no, I made it to where the One Piece anime could be used for very strict support
Who do you think I am, an upgrade freak?
I make sure yall follow the rules in place
I didn't even give a damn about this thread till yall started talking about how the anime was more valid than the manga
"Up to the community" from what it sounds like you're trying to force the calc away until the anime comes to swoop it up.
And no. It's not up to the community. It's up to the standards, and when the standards have strict rules on using the anime for one piece, we follow the standards.
You don't like it? Change the standards. Don't act as if you understand the standards when you clearly don't.
The standards and your assumptions on them are far from similar.
"All other verses do this" not One Piece
"We do this with nearly every verse on the site that has an anime" not One Piece
"This is how we get official timeframes for tons of calculation for verses" timeframes and sizes are not the same, and there's even times where we don't use the anime's timeframes
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The Horn isn't the size of King.
King is drawn bigger.
If we go by your logic, Ushi is the size of a town on Pica's arc. Zoro is the size of a two story house compared to Pica as well. And King (Who's 6 meters) is barely twice as big as Zoro.
Oda shows ridiculous sizes based on statements or initial portrayal, then makes them fit the action. I can grab you a dozen instances of that but it's pointless because you'd brush it off anyway.
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Do you watch the One Piece anime?
Hell, even in the latest episode it turned this attack into a hyperbeam.
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55th to the rescueDo you watch the One Piece anime?
Hell, even in the latest episode it turned this attack into a hyperbeam.
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