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Actually we can't use the multiplier to Luffy's speed. The scan which we use doesn't talk about speed.Antvasima said:I think that they are currently scaled to Luffy turning 3 times stronger and faster in Gear 4th.
It follows on from the previous form of Luffy which says: (Stronger than Zoro and Sanji; defeated Caesar Clow)Ercosore said:I have a question, what is the justification of base Luffy being 7-A? It has none it his page.
And personally i don't see any valid reason to why the Sand Storm feat shouldn't be scale his standard Attack Potency/Durability/Striking Strength.Damage3245 said:Sure, I'll be free in a few hours to discuss that.
Personally I think that even if Croc's storm is City level, that it is a mistake to assume this directly scales to his ordinary Sables / Desert Spada attacks because it boosts Luffy's (and consequently dozens of peoples) profiles too highly.
That wasn't a counterargument, that was just me stating my general opinion on the topic.Stefano4444 said:By the way, it boost Luffy's profile too highly? That is a weak counterargument and that it could be used to downplay all verses, like i could say Gold Saints cannot be 4-A because it would boost Seiya's profile too highly.
Ok, then i apologize for the misunderstanding, sorry.Damage3245 said:That wasn't a counterargument, that was just me stating my general opinion on the topic.
You mean what separate the scenes in the page of a comic books/manga?Captain Torch said:Also, a problem I noticed with Cin's scaling is that he scaled something from the foreground using the background, which isn't allowed and leads to inflated results.
That doesn't help. All you'd be doing is guesstimating. We can only go off by what we see.Captain Torch said:We don't see the whole city in the panel though. For all we know, it's far wider, and the storm is only taking a small place in the city. Besides, I already said my thoughts about scaling from the palace being more reliable
No, i think i have get it now.Captain Torch said:@Stefano
I don't really get what you mean
Good thing i have made an alternative calc based on the same scan that Cin had used, as i can scale the Sand Storm itself.Gear2ndGandalf said:That doesn't help. All you'd be doing is guesstimating. We can only go off by what we see.
There is the part above the sky which seen to cover the entire city or at least it extend to a vast area.Damage3245 said:Wait, did the sandstorm cover the entire city? Or just the plaza? Because from the looks of that colored panel it looks like just the plaza itself (and some of the surrounding buildings) is hit.
No because then everyone would have notice the Sand Storm before Kouza was being shot and falling to the ground.Damage3245 said:We don't even have a good justification for the timeframe either, because Crocodile could easily have created the sandstorm shortly before the fighting started, and he moved into place as the chaos happened.
Maybe we could discover the size of the feat if we consider the curvature of the plateau the city is on. That way we can find the size of the city.Stefano4444 said:Ok, i have try to do an alternative calculation of the feat, by using the same scan that Cin that he has used to scale the Sand Storm in first place and this was the result.
Palace's Elevation (Black line in the middle of the scan) = 196 pixels
Crocodile's Sand Storm (Black line in the middle of the bigger red line) = 727 pixels
727/196 = 3.70918367
Alubarna's Plaza = 5 kms = Palace's Elevation.
Sand Storm's Diameter = 5*3.70918367 = 18.5459184 kms
Alubarna's Cin = 3.15073032804 kms
18.5459184/3.15073032804 = 5.88622842
Sand Storm's Cin = 1.405 Megatons of TNT = Small City level
5.88622842*1.405 = 8.27015093 Megatons of TNT = City level
Given that everyone was pretty pre-occupied with the imminent battle / invasion, that would explain why nobody would notice the sandstorm being conjured.Stefano4444 said:No because then everyone would have notice the Sand Storm before Kouza was being shot and falling to the ground.
Yes but he defeated Caesar with gears not in base, and I seriously doubt Luffy is stronger than Zoro and Sanji without them either. Even in the begginig of Punk Hazard (where the 7-A comes from) it was shown that without hardening Luffy was making equal or less damage to the dragon than Zoro. Not only that but Luffy was pretty much equal to Chinjao, who is 7-B I think, before using G3.Damage3245 said:It follows on from the previous form of Luffy which says: (Stronger than Zoro and Sanji; defeated Caesar Clow)Ercosore said:I have a question, what is the justification of base Luffy being 7-A? It has none it his page.
No, because it was momentaneary stopped by Kouza, as he was trying to tell the rebels the truth about the civil war.Damage3245 said:Given that everyone was pretty pre-occupied with the imminent battle / invasion, that would explain why nobody would notice the sandstorm being conjured.
Expect the fights have already started way before that moment, right in the big entrance of the city, then the royal army have retreated in the plaza, under the order of Mr. 2, which they thought it was trully their king.Damage3245 said:Well, they wouldn't have much reason not to notice it when they were fighting because it was in their faces and obscuring their vision.