One Piece General Discussion: Film RED

[LordGinSama]

Meant more like AP feats lol.

Kenbunshoku can see in other ******* dimensions what the hell

So Interdimensional range for Kenbunshoku sensing?

 

[WrongIdea21]

So we can include a few feats linked to Shanks in movie? I thought there are important feats for Shanks one, possible to scaled others, from RED's spoilers. Hao users should have to get a new upgrade to resist mind manipulation depends how Uta use her power which seem to be mind manipulation, then Shanks and Katakuri can resist it even thought Luffy still cant resist it

Yeah only fighting style and abilties considering Oda approve that and got involved in directing this film with Shimizu( Film Red Director) spesific about the Ability stuff. Idk if the power scaling can works but Ability and skills indeed can be use.

Edit : Shimizu is a Producer not Director

 

[Antvasima]

Question, you said autistic screeching phrasing

what does that mean?

Somebody used the term "autistic screeching" above, which is technically a rather bigoted concept used against people like myself, as more severe autistic people that mostly live inside of their own heads can get mentally overexerted by too much sensory input and start screaming at times because their social communication skills are bad.

I am personally not particularly sensitive about low-level offensive terms like this, and try to not help the whole oversensitive cancel culture society that has developed in the western world, but others might be, including Fandom, and it doesn't hurt to try to be polite.

 

[Eseseso]

Somebody used the term "autistic screeching" above, which is technically a rather bigoted concept used against people like myself, as more severe autistic people that mostly live inside of their own heads can get mentally overexerted by too much sensory input and start screaming at times because their social communication skills are bad.

I am personally not particularly sensitive about low-level offensive terms like this, and try to not help the whole oversensitive cancel culture society that has developed in the western world, but others might be, including Fandom, and it doesn't hurt to try to be polite.

I apologize for this.

I am also highly functioning autistic, but I shouldn't have made such an inappropriate joke.

I'll change the post.

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Somebody used the term "autistic screeching" above, which is technically a rather bigoted concept used against people like myself, as more severe autistic people that mostly live inside of their own heads can get mentally overexerted by too much sensory input and start screaming at times because their social communication skills are bad.

I am personally not particularly sensitive about low-level offensive terms like this, and try to not help the whole oversensitive cancel culture society that has developed in the western world, but others might be, including Fandom, and it doesn't hurt to try to be polite.

Oh ok, understandable

I thought you were saying somebody was calling me autistic or something which is why I asked

 

[Antvasima]

I apologize for this.

I am also highly functioning autistic, but I shouldn't have made such an inappropriate joke.

I'll change the post.

Thank you, and no problem.

Oh ok, understandable

I thought you were saying somebody was calling me autistic or something which is why I asked

Okay.

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Director Shimizu said One Piece Film: RED is Non-canon, the film's story has no connection with the Manga plot. But there is some new Canon information used in this film and it has been approved by Oda.

In other words, Uta's character and the film's story are completely unrelated to the manga. So if you want to force it, it won't fit. But later there will be new things that are revealed in this film, such as Shanks' past, fighting style, etc. which will be shown briefly in this film and it is Canon.

This isn't really new, we've seen how Strong World includes Canon's character as the main villain. A legendary pirate who was able to match the power of Roger in the past, namely Shiki. Some new information about Shiki was revealed in Strong World, his background, fighting style and this is still Canon.

However, the Strong World story cannot be linked to the Manga. Yes, roughly speaking, when pirates without Haki mastery can win against pirates who are able to fight alone against 2 Marine legends at once.

Question, can you show the source for this?

 

[Fireld]

Kenbunshoku can see in other ******* dimensions what the hell

Like Naruto & Sasuke seeing Madara's clones from Limbo?

 

[KingTempest]

Like Naruto & Sasuke seeing Madara's clones from Limbo?

Yes

 

[SnookB]

Yes

... Now the question is- although Feats aren't usable, are pre-existing abilities writen by Goda himself allowed to be expanded upon as canon even though they're in a non-canon source?
It's not like Oda ever added haki stuff that isn't canonically doable

 

[SnookB]

Kenbunshoku can see in other ******* dimensions what the hell

Also sauce pls and thank

 

[KobsterHope07]

Also sauce pls and thank

Probably talking about this

 

[SnookB]

Probably talking about this

I'm not surprised it's Katakuri who showed the feat. Dude's a Kenbun beast

 

[KobsterHope07]

I'm not surprised it's Katakuri who showed the feat. Dude's a Kenbun beast

Don’t forget about Usopp who did the same vice versa from Katakuri

 

[SnookB]

Don’t forget about Usopp who did the same vice versa from Katakuri

Yup. Though Usopp's seems to be a 'link' rather than directly seeing. I look forward to seeing how this is done tbh.
Shanks and Luffy not meeting is a good thing

 

[WrongIdea21]

... Now the question is- although Feats aren't usable, are pre-existing abilities writen by Goda himself allowed to be expanded upon as canon even though they're in a non-canon source?
It's not like Oda ever added haki stuff that isn't canonically doable

Oda make it as accurate as possible because some Major characters is involved, The Movie have nothing to do with Canon Timeline but Ability stuff is suppose to be Canon due to Oda who's got involved writing the script.
This movie will be a movie where Oda interferes more than the previous movie (Strong World) because it is related to the Major Character like Shiki and now Shanks.

 

[Eseseso]

I just want yonko lvl katakuri even if it ain't canon

 

[Magmag]

Oda make it as accurate as possible because some Major characters is involved, The Movie have nothing to do with Canon Timeline but Ability stuff is suppose to be Canon due to Oda who's got involved writing the script.
This movie will be a movie where Oda interferes more than the previous movie (Strong World) because it is related to the Major Character like Shiki and now Shanks.

Is that even how it works…more involvement=/=more canon, oda could simply be fulfilling his fanfic fantasies.

 

[WrongIdea21]

Is that even how it works…more involvement=/=more canon, oda could simply be fulfilling his fanfic fantasies.

Of course, because Oda does focus on several things in this film, Oda's Fanfic fantasies is a non-Canon Character like Uta. if we think that Uta's Devil Fruit can be scaled to Kenbun then I'm neutral about that. Because what makes Oda involved is very much because Shanks appears in the film several times, there may also be fighting scenes, so that's what Oda pays attention to.
This is like the Strong World Movie where Oda is involved in Building Shiki's Character including the Feats he shows.

 

[KingTempest]

Of course, because Oda does focus on several things in this film, Oda's Fanfic fantasies is a non-Canon Character like Uta. if we think that Uta's Devil Fruit can be scaled to Kenbun then I'm neutral about that. Because what makes Oda involved is very much because Shanks appears in the film several times, there may also be fighting scenes, so that's what Oda pays attention to.
This is like the Strong World Movie where Oda is involved in Building Shiki's Character including the Feats he shows.

Strong world in itself is canon.

I guess we could make a case where abilities in the movie are scaleable to canon, but we need a shit ton of evidence

 

[Eseseso]

Strong world in itself is canon.

I guess we could make a case where abilities in the movie are scaleable to canon, but we need a shit ton of evidence

Not to mention the inevitable scaling issues would eventually arose like Film Z

 

[KingTempest]

There ain’t scaling issues in strong world, y’all just don’t know scaling

 

[Eseseso]

There ain’t scaling issues in strong world, y’all just don’t know scaling

Oh I thought you were referring to all movies not just SW, my bad

 

[Magmag]

Of course, because Oda does focus on several things in this film, Oda's Fanfic fantasies is a non-Canon Character like Uta. if we think that Uta's Devil Fruit can be scaled to Kenbun then I'm neutral about that. Because what makes Oda involved is very much because Shanks appears in the film several times, there may also be fighting scenes, so that's what Oda pays attention to.
This is like the Strong World Movie where Oda is involved in Building Shiki's Character including the Feats he shows.

Well there’s a distinct difference between a canon movie compared to a non canon move with more involvement. We’ll have to get evidence on the abilities being canon.

 

[SnookB]

Strong world in itself is canon.

I guess we could make a case where abilities in the movie are scaleable to canon, but we need a shit ton of evidence

In this case I read a thing about "Shanks' abilities are written by the author" so at the very least that's one if we can find a source

 

[DaMonkeMan]

In this case I read a thing about "Shanks' abilities are written by the author" so at the very least that's one if we can find a source

Yeah I think I read that too. Shanks boutta make admiral fanboys have a temper tantrum, no-diffing a vice admiral like that..

 

[SnookB]

Yeah I think I read that too. Shanks boutta make admiral fanboys have a temper tantrum, no-diffing a vice admiral

Admiral agenda got Kanabo'd by Yamato first and now Shanks. The admiral=yonko crowd are getting sweaty

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Admiral agenda got Kanabo'd by Yamato first and now Shanks. The admiral=yonko crowd are getting sweaty

Plus the newest admiral deadass had to whip out their strongest form for incomplete, base form scabbards. Even worse, I don't think Shinobu even has haki or a sword like the other scabbards, just a fruit,though admittedly that fruit seems to hard counter Aramaki.

 

[WrongIdea21]

Well there’s a distinct difference between a canon movie compared to a non canon move with more involvement. We’ll have to get evidence on the abilities being canon.

The Producer who stated the Ability Stuff is being Canon and He Compared two movie that have Oda involved so much. He explained that some characters will have Canon things like background and power/abilities Just like Shiki.

 

[SnookB]

The Producer who stated the Ability Stuff is being Canon and He Compared two movie that have Oda involved so much. He explained that some characters will have Canon things like background and power/abilities Just like Shiki.

Hello hypnosis resistance and cross-dimensional sensory

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Hello hypnosis resistance and cross-dimensional sensory

Is her power really hypnosis? From what I remember reading it's just bfr

 

[WrongIdea21]

Hello hypnosis resistance and cross-dimensional sensory

Uta and her Ability that non Canon say Hi.

But it's back on you guys if you guys considered Uta's ability can be scales to Kenbun or not.

 

[KingTempest]

Is her power really hypnosis? From what I remember reading it's just bfr

mental bfr

Uta and her Ability that non Canon say Hi.

But it's back on you guys if you guys considered Uta's ability can be scales to Kenbun or not.

this movie not even out yet
let's actually see it in effect

 

[WrongIdea21]

Strong world in itself is canon.

I guess we could make a case where abilities in the movie are scaleable to canon, but we need a shit ton of evidence

All I know is that the Canon part of Strong World is in the character (Shiki, including his background and strengths/abilities) while for the story, I don't know that it's Canon but this movie itself can fit into the timeline so it could be canon (arguably).

 

[KingTempest]

All I know is that the Canon part of Strong World is in the character (Shiki, including his background and strengths/abilities) while for the story, I don't know that it's Canon but this movie itself can fit into the timeline so it could be canon (arguably).

We accept it as canon as of rn

 

[WrongIdea21]

For those who don't know, actually this film was planned to focus on Shanks and his past but Oda refused and wanted a female figure to be the main antagonist. Oda's involvement regarding Shanks is because Shanks will also appear in the Manga (showing his abilities) at the same time as the Movie (Oda's Prediction)

 

[DaMonkeMan]

For those who don't know, actually this film was planned to focus on Shanks and his past but Oda refused and wanted a female figure to be the main antagonist. Oda's involvement regarding Shanks is because Shanks will also appear in the Manga (showing his abilities) at the same time as the Movie (Oda's Prediction)

Shanks fans... Y'all might be eating good for once..

 

[Magmag]

The Producer who stated the Ability Stuff is being Canon and He Compared two movie that have Oda involved so much. He explained that some characters will have Canon things like background and power/abilities Just like Shiki.

Well if that is the case and we know which characters abilities are canon then yes, but we can’t assume without specifically knowing what abilities.

 

[KingTempest]

imma **** around and assume all of them

 

[WrongIdea21]

Well if that is the case and we know which characters abilities are canon then yes, but we can’t assume without specifically knowing what abilities.

You sound too fussy about the situation, I have repeatedly referred specifically to Shanks, His fighting style and abilities.