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One Piece General Discussion: Elbaph
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I don't think his natural durability is as high as them, he would make up for it though by avoiding attacks with Future Sight or blocking his blade + buso preventing him from taking any serious damage in the first place.
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Can one more mod comment on this so It can be added
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It's a minor CRT, so only 1 staff agreement is needed
Can one more mod comment on this so It can be added
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VS Battles Wiki is a site where the members attempt to index the statistics of characters across different fictional franchises. These efforts lead to much discussion about certain feats, statements and calculations regarding their validity, reliability, etc. However, certain topics keep popping...
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I completely agree.
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Wooooah, I'm loving the 80's anime feel of the visuals and filter! Gives them that Back to the Future sci-fi style feel to them as well. And it's beautiful to see them embrace Luffy Tunes already!
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Pog. I'll apply the revisions after work then.It's a minor CRT, so only 1 staff agreement is needed
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VS Battles Wiki is a site where the members attempt to index the statistics of characters across different fictional franchises. These efforts lead to much discussion about certain feats, statements and calculations regarding their validity, reliability, etc. However, certain topics keep popping...
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Fraud Mom was getting carried from her endurance and durability. Shes a terrible fighter
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I think Shank’s is gonna end up beiing weaker in overall stats. Same with Mihawk.
Their bodies seem very much “human” compared to the massive “iron balloon” and the “strongest creature”.
They make up for it via superior mastery of haki and skill, but if either tried to like...arm wrestle Big Mom they'd get slammed imo.
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This slander is wild
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I don't really disagree.
Big Mom is definitely carried in large part by her physical stats and devil fruit. She's never been shown to be a particularly strategic fighter, nor has she really shown exceptional skill as a fighter/swordswoman. In addition to being plagued by overconfidence.
I think not being particularly intelligent (outside of being a competent enough Emperor) is part of her character tbh. She's meant to be a bit more childish and impulsive than...say, Mihawk or Shanks.
Big Mom is definitely carried in large part by her physical stats and devil fruit. She's never been shown to be a particularly strategic fighter, nor has she really shown exceptional skill as a fighter/swordswoman. In addition to being plagued by overconfidence.
I think not being particularly intelligent (outside of being a competent enough Emperor) is part of her character tbh. She's meant to be a bit more childish and impulsive than...say, Mihawk or Shanks.
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We don't know if she's dead.
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True (I personally hope she isn't), but until further notice, we should assumes she is.
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What about garp
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I still think Big Mom is physically stronger than him tbh. As far as raw physical specs go.
I think Garp is probably stronger than Shank’s physically tho. That wouldn't surprise me.
I think Garp is probably stronger than Shank’s physically tho. That wouldn't surprise me.
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Nah... I feel like his strength his greater but her durability is better
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... Mmm
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Fair enough yeah. I think Big Mom and Kaido are just set apart from a lot of the others, strength-wise, due to their abnormal bodies and size tbh. I could very well be wrong, but it just seems like those two are the most "monstrous" of the top-level characters.
In a pure slugfest I would give it to Garp, but that's because IMO he likely has better Haki. Which is gonna be the deciding factor there.
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I mean... From feats and portrayals, big mom doesn't have anything close to garp strength wise... She is more of a tank than a missile with what's currently shown from her
Garp against Marco vs big mom against marco... Or even use aokiji if you think post timeskip is different
Casually destroying 8 mountains as basically a warm up + more
Garp against Marco vs big mom against marco... Or even use aokiji if you think post timeskip is different
Casually destroying 8 mountains as basically a warm up + more
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Strength as in AP or strength as in physical power alone?
I agree that Garp can hit harder than Big Mom. But I don't think he was ever portrayed as being significantly above her in terms of like...lifting or muscle strength. Again, Garp likely has extraordinarily good haki, and definitely has better Hao infusion than she does.
I agree that Garp can hit harder than Big Mom. But I don't think he was ever portrayed as being significantly above her in terms of like...lifting or muscle strength. Again, Garp likely has extraordinarily good haki, and definitely has better Hao infusion than she does.
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I'm talking physical striking strength and kinda lifting
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What she do...?
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Uhh... Hmm? You don't think garp can do that?
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If queen doesn't resist then yeah
If he does then hell no
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Has the lifting strength and definitely has the strength to overpower queen trying to resist
Otherwise I don't know what else your talking about, I'm on early wano btw
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I completely disagree.
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Are we talking about prime garp?
Has the lifting strength and definitely has the strength to overpower queen trying to resist
Otherwise I don't know what else your talking about, I'm on early wano btw
Also Queen's ls scales above the iron ball feat
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That's not how that works... His lifting strength is not his weight, his lifting is what will help him resist
In weight iron ball > Queen
It's garp overall, old just has more feats
Don't care
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Do you need permission to re-calc things?
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Yeah but you dont ragdoll a character without them resisting your Ls with their own Ls
