One Piece General Discussion: Elbaph

[Makai641001]

Sabo was about to crush Bastile's head.
Fujitora called the metoerite as support vs Sabo. There's zero indication that he was doing it PRIOR to Bastile's head getting caught, it goes:


Sabo can crush targets in the span of 2 panels. (1 panel where he squeezes Bastile's blade, and the next the blade cracks). He catches Bastile's head, the crack sfx follows- the next panel was going to be Bastile's head getting popped
Unless you're arguing Fujitora summoned a meteorite knowing it'll take longer for it to reach than it takes for Sabo to crack his underling's skull??

What i’m saying is that you are basing this calc under the assumption that it happened at that moment

 

[Makai641001]

Anyways it’ll get a re calc

 

[SnookB]

What i’m saying is that you are basing this calc under the assumption that it happened at that moment

Panel 1: Grab
Panel 2: Cracking begins

Panel 3: Sword breaks

Similiar case was going down with Bastille's head:
Panel 1: Grab
Panel 2: Cracking starts

Next panels: Meteorites' already so far down, and Fujitora's reacting out of realization that the bird cage is there.

You could argue the timeframe is far shorter based on the context of interrupting Sabo.
And unless Fujitora wrote down a cheat code to make a meteorite appear halfway across the sky already, then that meteorite cam down VERY fast, and the POV is of it already being visible to everyone.

 

[SnookB]

What i’m saying is that you are basing this calc under the assumption that it happened at that moment

You're saying Fujitora summoned it FAR earlier, willing to endanger Bastille and his men, rather than Fujitora realizing Sabo grabbed him THEN summoning it to help him out?
That's literally backwards of what the context itself suggests.

 

[Makai641001]

Panel 1: Grab
Panel 2: Cracking begins

Panel 3: Sword breaks

Similiar case was going down with Bastille's head:
Panel 1: Grab
Panel 2: Cracking starts

Next panels: Meteorites' already so far down, and Fujitora's reacting out of realization that the bird cage is there.

You could argue the timeframe is far shorter based on the context of interrupting Sabo.
And unless Fujitora wrote down a cheat code to make a meteorite appear halfway across the sky already, then that meteorite cam down VERY fast, and the POV is of it already being visible to everyone.

Fujitora didn’t make it appear to help Basile he wouldn’t have said « Here’s a quandary » if it was to help his friend also everything happens in one panel while Sabo was speaking as i said you have absolutely no clue about when he Made it appear
As Damage said let’s wait for the re calc

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

Literally every other Meteor Fujitora used took like 5 Seconds… It’s asinine to assume this 1 Page feat would take more than 10 Seconds

Besides it was already accepted by 3 Calc Group Members, it’s already widely accepted, and CRT’s are literally almost down implementing everything this effects, so yeah, the Calc is staying

 

[KingTempest]

and CRT’s are literally almost down implementing everything this effects

When has this ever done anything? Same thing happened in the last thread

 

[SnookB]

Literally every other Meteor Fujitora used took like 5 Seconds… It’s asinine to assume this 1 Page feat would take more than 10 Seconds

The special case of a 6A meteorite, duh.
Of course some will have issues. It's the one meteorite that they don't want to make sense. It has to be the one special case meteorite that contradicts every other single one regardless of context, because they don't like it.
And every feat there'll be of 6A OP will be treated the same. Just you wait until Bajrang Gun is suddenly as slow as an elderly person walking and uses air density instead lmao

 

[SnookB]

Fujitora didn’t make it appear to help Basile he wouldn’t have said « Here’s a quandary » if it was to help his friend also everything happens in one panel while Sabo was speaking as i said you have absolutely no clue about when he Made it appear

... Yeah, "here's a quandary" is stated before he asks if his meteorite can bypass the birdcage. He likely forgot it's there until looking up, because you know..
He's blind

 

[KingTempest]

... Yeah, "here's a quandary" is stated before he asks if his meteorite can bypass the birdcage. He likely forgot it's there until looking up, because you know..
He's blind

Bro I'm ngl I forgot he was blind

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

When has this ever done anything? Same thing happened in the last thread

It hasn’t, which is why you need to ignore people who mention the same shit that was disagreed with before in a CRT and move on

The calc was already accepted by 3 Calc Members in addition to myself, so it’s accepted and we move forward. We’re not gonna make everyone happy, but if we stop for every person having a nonsensical disagreement and making a big scene, then we’d never make any progress, so yeah, ignore Makai and move on

 

[Makai641001]

It hasn’t, which is why you need to ignore people who mention the same shit that was disagreed with before in a CRT and move on

The calc was already accepted by 3 Calc Members in addition to myself, so it’s accepted and we move forward. We’re not gonna make everyone happy, but if we stop for every person having a nonsensical disagreement and making a big scene, then we’d never make any progress, so yeah, ignore Makai and move on

I think it’s not the first Time we ask you gently to calm down on your words another admin said a re calc was going on i don’t think you need to be salty

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

I think it’s not the first Time we ask you gently to calm down on your words another admin said a re calc was going on i don’t think you need to be salty

No I do, these revisions have been stalled for months upon months because every time we get close to finishing, some new person has some new issue with a calc that’s been accepted and known by everyone for weeks

We literally made a CRT to address this issue of new people last minute showing up to stall revisions. The calc members know the context and agreed that a 10 Second timeframe was ok given everything we know. So we’re going to proceed with the revisions we have

 

[Makai641001]

No I do, these revisions have been stalled for months upon months because every time we get close to finishing, some new person has some new issue with a calc that’s been accepted and known by everyone for weeks

We literally made a CRT to address this issue of new people last minute showing up to stall revisions. The calc members know the context and agreed that a 10 Second timeframe was ok given everything we know. So we’re going to proceed with the revisions we have

There is no need to be so salty anyway i just asked if it wouldn’t be better not to assume things just answer it gently Damage already answered

I gtg see you

 

[SnookB]

ignore Makai and move on

until the recalc Damage mentioned is upon us. Give it 1 day after the wano revisions are done.

off topic- wouldn't Dressrosa's size be easier to find if we were to compare the battleship that this wiki scaled to the sunny to the rose in the foreground, then scale it to the furthest rose in the background?

That'd probably help with finding greenbit's diameter (since it's somewhat round) and Dressrosa's own based off this panel

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

There is no need to be so salty

There is... This is a lot of reasons to be salty. This is like the 6th time a Calc was accepted for weeks and then right as a CRT that was going to finish and implement the changes, someone new shows up with some new issue that is entirely debatable and proceeds to stall everything by a month.

It's like Calc Members acceptance mean nothing anymore...

 

[theultimate5105]

until the recalc Damage mentioned is upon us. Give it 1 day after the wano revisions are done.

off topic- wouldn't Dressrosa's size be easier to find if we were to compare the battleship that this wiki scaled to the sunny to the rose in the foreground, then scale it to the furthest rose in the background?

That'd probably help with finding greenbit's diameter (since it's somewhat round) and Dressrosa's own based off this panel

I mean even in the foreground the roses vary in size (look to the left side of the island)

 

[SnookB]

I mean even in the foreground the roses vary in size (look to the left side of the island)

Pretty sure that one is slightly in the background. The coast itself has a curve since the island is sort of circular/egg shaped

Alternatively. The ship itself scales to the length of the coastline for easier measure?

 

[Makai641001]

There is... This is a lot of reasons to be salty. This is like the 6th time a Calc was accepted for weeks and then right as a CRT that was going to finish and implement the changes, someone new shows up with some new issue that is entirely debatable and proceeds to stall everything by a month.

It's like Calc Members acceptance mean nothing anymore...

Even if i didn’t come Here to ASK something some people would still have done a Re Calc.

 

[theultimate5105]

Alternatively. The ship itself scales to the length of the coastline for easier measure?

This sounds like a better way to measure it

 

[LordGinSama]

I'm gonna say what everyone here is thinking.


The consistent stream of re calcs for the sheer fact of needless scrutiny is some outright bull shit. There needs to be some type of discussion rule on the wiki for that at this point.

 

[SnookB]

I'm only miffed because suddenly this is the ONE SINGLE meteorite that has to be some kinda outlier and be slower unlike all other 3 that came down just as fast if not FASTER than it.

 

[Eseseso]

Bro I'm ngl I forgot he was blind

Same.

He's like that dude Augus from Asura's Wrath: So badass you forget that he's blind.

 

[SnookB]

Same.

He's like that dude Augus from Asura's Wrath: So badass you forget that he's blind.

TF?? AUGUS IS BLIND????

 

[SnookB]

Same.

He's like that dude Augus from Asura's Wrath: So badass you forget that he's blind.

HOLY SHIT HE IS
Asura saying "I'll tear out your BLIND eyes" wasn't metaphorical after all

 

[GodlyCharmander]

The calc says

Meteor start at the beginning of the panel From the atmosphere
Meteor can be seen
Meteor fall on them

Manga says
No indication on when it started it’s movement
Meteor appear And we can see a clear distance
Meteor crash

There is absolutely 0 indication about him producing the feat at that moment + Sabo realised it was there when he saw it And marines could react to it

This is golden, apparently people have zero reading comprehension.

Between the time Fujitora sends his gravity waves upwards, and the meteor appears in the atmosphere, there is a time gap of a few seconds tops. He doesn't fabricate these meteors out of thin air, they come from outer space, and has to go through several layers far larger than what we measured (which didn't even seen like the stratosphere), either way, the calc is absolutely fine

 

[Makai641001]

This is golden, apparently people have zero reading comprehension.

Between the time Fujitora sends his gravity waves upwards, and the meteor appears in the atmosphere, there is a time gap of a few seconds tops. He doesn't fabricate these meteors out of thin air, they come from outer space, and has to go through several layers far larger than what we measured (which didn't even seen like the stratosphere), either way, the calc is absolutely fine

So could you show me this gravity wave rn please?
Also this doesn’t answer what i asked

 

[Makai641001]

This is golden, apparently people have zero reading comprehension.

Between the time Fujitora sends his gravity waves upwards, and the meteor appears in the atmosphere, there is a time gap of a few seconds tops. He doesn't fabricate these meteors out of thin air, they come from outer space, and has to go through several layers far larger than what we measured (which didn't even seen like the stratosphere), either way, the calc is absolutely fine

Btw all i did was ask a question And say i find it weird that’s it if the calc is fine then the Re calc won’t get accepted

 

[SnookB]

So could you show me this gravity wave rn please?

Panel 2, gravity beam goes up
Panel 3, meteorite appears ALREADY as a dot. (Note that this one is FAR smaller than the one dropped on the bird cage)

Between his beam going to space and the meteorite appearing below the atmosphere is literally 3 seconds TOPS based on the 1 single panel difference

 

[Makai641001]

Panel 2, gravity beam goes up
Panel 3, meteorite appears ALREADY as a dot. (Note that this one is FAR smaller than the one dropped on the bird cage)

Between his beam going to space and the meteorite appearing below the atmosphere is literally 3 seconds TOPS based on the 1 single panel difference

This ain’t the good feat
Anyway wouldn’t Fujitora’s AP vary since the size of his meteors change ?
Wouldn’t It only scale the Resistance of the Bird Cage
Cause i could see his AP as
« Varries between (Lowest result for one of his meteor) up to Continental »
That’s just a question

 

[SnookB]

Anyway wouldn’t Fujitora’s AP vary since the size of his meteors change ?

No, because we scale his AP to his gravity's energy not the meteorites. Fujitora's gravity contributes more than 98% of the value. The meteorites wouldn't pack half the power without his own energy.
And all of his feats are done casually. If he can yank a meteorite with 1pt energy, then he can attack with 1pt energy via his gravity since it has enough force to drag said meteorite in the first place.

 

[KingTempest]

« Varries between (Lowest result for one of his meteor) up to Continental »

That's not varies. It's just that his physicals are Large Island (does not scale to any meteor) up to Continental+ with his gravity

 

[Magmag]

this whole thing got me confused now, for the timeframe, what exact panel is the start time and what panel is the exact end time?

 

[Makai641001]

That's not varies. It's just that his physicals are Large Island (does not scale to any meteor) up to Continental+ with his gravity

Yeah i understood i hope it will get accepted for you cause y’all seem to be on your nerves

 

[Makai641001]

this whole thing got me confused now, for the timeframe, what exact panel is the start time and what panel is the exact end time?

They say the panel is the start And the end which i doubt a bit but i won’t interfere in their business They are desesperate

 

[14405User]

I think using angsizing will actually be very low even lower than the previous count (10,000,000) and considering the huge OP size 72,000,000 is already a lowball

for the 10s timeframe, others have already explained

 

[14405User]

 

[Magmag]

what type of person do we think BB's tenth captain is gonna be?
we got some set matches for SH vs BB but who still doesn't have a matchup.

 

[SnookB]

what type of person do we think BB's tenth captain is gonna be?
we got some set matches for SH vs BB but who still doesn't have a matchup.

I just assumed it's Aokiji tbh..
It might be Weevil though-

 

[SnookB]

They say the panel is the start And the end which i doubt a bit but i won’t interfere in their business They are desesperate

Nobody's "desperate"???
If it took 3/4 seconds tops to appear below the atmosphere, then it'll take no longer than another 3/4 seconds to hit the target.